Steverulez
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Minecraft Karting must be next up.
Exclusive Xbox/Playstation characters based on released skin packs too?
Exclusive Xbox/Playstation characters based on released skin packs too?
It's not completely new is it? It's most likely going to follow the same barebones as previous Telltale games. The gameplay, presentation of narrative, controls, choices, lots of reading and listening, etc.
Them writing a story for a game that has none is a new challenge for them, but that's WHY there is doubt. I'm sure some people don't want talking creepers and narrative between Minecraft characters. Why not? Well Minecraft wasn't created with any of that in mind.
Trying something new can be massively rewarding, but don't go telling people not to have doubts. I certainly do. I don't know anyone who asked Minecraft to be turned into a "point and click" adventure either. Would rather Telltale carried on with another license. However like always, prove the naysayers wrong Telltale. Then doubt can be eradicated.
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Most on NeoGAF have first hand experience with how Telltale games work. They usually have fairly deep narrative. I'm talking about story before anyone says the choices are smoke and mirrors, which they are.
Explain to me how a game that has no narrative translates into a typical Telltale product? Minecraft has no real story, no extensive lore, etc. This project is going to rely fully on Telltale writing, they cannot borrow from any medium where a concept began - Books, comics, film.
Not saying it can't be done, but people have genuine concerns over this announcement, and why not? Not much different than any concerns about the quality of writing when say taking the Game of Thrones license. Tremendously written books and TV series, anxiety about a game potentially butchering them?
Leave it up to the companies to prove doubt wrong, not attacks on people for having doubt.
And I guess for saying its a shitty place to visit, you're here voluntarily, there's the door! Unless someones paying you to browse GAF, you need not waste your time if it's that shitty.
Not really.
TWD Season 1 and 2, aside from "hey there's zombies" was entirely Telltale's creation. The characters, the settings and locations, and entire plot was their doing.
All they had to work with was "lots of people are dead and theres monsters".
I have no doubt they're capable of creating an original story.
Well you're factually slightly incorrect there, characters from the comics are in the games series.
TWD while having an original story and characters can be heavily influenced by things that happened in the books and comics.
What story based themes can be influenced from Minecraft? How do you tell a father/daughter relationship with polygons that don't even talk nor have lives? And so forth and so on.
What story based themes can be influenced from Minecraft? How do you tell a father/daughter relationship with polygons that don't even talk nor have lives? And so forth and so on.
Or Lego.This game takes away a huge part of the fun of Minecraft, which is making your own stories and such as you go...[n]it'd be like making a movie based on Lincoln Logs.[/b]
The comic characters that show up in TWD have very small roles and none of them are in Season 2.
I'm assuming the characters in the Minecraft game are absolutely going to talk and have lives. It'll be a Telltale game simply done in the artstyle and world of Minecraft.
It's impossible to speculate on what the story would be but it could literally be anything, like a guy leaving his tiny village to go out and save the world from an evil Ender Dragon.
Do you like the point and click adventure type games in the first place?
I'm pretty neutral on them personally so I can enjoy them if they are well made. I don't think too highly of their walking dead season 1 entry and that seems to be held up as one of their best. So I probably lean towards thinking their games are awful... but they get cool IPs to build off of so I keep an open mind.
Go read Boatmurdered. It's the archetypical example of how a gripping narrative can exist within the context of a video game that itself has none.
"It'll be written and developed by the uber-brains at Telltale, but the Mojangstas and some community members will also have input. GOTY 2015? Possibly."
Go read Boatmurdered. It's the archetypical example of how a gripping narrative can exist within the context of a video game that itself has none.
Ugh Telltale makes such terrible games. I really don't know why this needs to exist.
Come on man.
Welcome to the Internet.Neogaf is turning into such a shitty place to visit these days.
Company makes product. Lets throw shit at it. We haven't seen it. We haven't played it. But dammit, we have uninformed opinions that need posting!!!
what if... and stick with me now... what if someone prefers the narrative driven strengths of a Telltale game to the bloated cheese of MGS or the high skill requirements of Dark Souls/Bloodborne type games?
Yeah they are, which is what causes doubt and worry. The creator of Minecraft never laid a foundation for such an expansion. Everything Telltale do now is going to fundamentally change how people view Steve or a creeper the second they give them a voice and personality. Of course some people just don't want that because they might like Minecraft not making them have to decide if they like a creepers personality because Minecraft doesn't normally deal with emotions on that scale.
Then others are just worried about what on earth is going to be done to give Minecraft and is characters a story...
You can't deny how this might seem like a cash-in. Take the most popular franchise ever and try to give it something the original creator had no intention to. TWDs universe was always suppose to have story, lives, and all the themes we see in the game used and expanded on.
Wouldn't you have to know the story first?L before you make that claim?Then you have much better options than a story about minecraft.
Wouldn't you have to know the story first?L before you make that claim?
Claim it?Wouldn't you have to actually make the game before you claim GOTY 2015?
Claim it?
Key word...
"Possibly"
I suppose that's possible. Though, not implied.And I'm possibly saying that it won't.
I guess, I've just kind of created my own "stories" in the hundred hours I've played Minecraft and I think it'd be fascinating to see another "story" brought to life in that world.
I already used this reference but that was how I felt watching the LEGO Movie. LEGO was never meant to have story or characters talking yet that worked fine.
I just think we should be giving Telltale the benefit of the doubt here considering (with the exception of Jurassic Park) they've put out so many quality games over the last few years.
for the record, one of my big issues with these games is that they are not much like great Point and Click Adventure games. These were filled with puzzles, meaningful dialogue choices and other activities. They could be quite difficult at times, depending on the puzzles.
Telltale Games are extremely simplistic, there's almost no puzzles in them at all and most of the dialogue choices are just basic illusions of choice (and most of the time, not even good illusions at that).
So I don't think liking point and click adventure games necessarily informs us if someone would like the Telltale Games
Man, you guys really hate Minecraft :lol
Cool announcement.
Then you have much better options than a story about minecraft.
I'm not shitting on it, but you wanna say "GOTY 2015? Possibly" You're talking a big game, especially in a year like this, and if this blows up on your face, then you deserve all the shit you'd get.
But who knows, maybe its the greatest game of the year. But probably not.
Telltale Games are extremely simplistic, there's almost no puzzles in them at all and most of the dialogue choices are just basic illusions of choice (and most of the time, not even good illusions at that).
We have no idea what a story about Minecraft might be like; presumably, since there is nothing else like that concept in games, it might appeal to a whole new subset of individuals who might find it fresh and interesting for that very reason. They might skew younger, or it might resonate with adults too in the way LEGO MOVIE does.
It is your subjective opinion that there would be better options than this, as much as I can even call that an opinion at this point with how little we know about this game.
First, it was a tongue-in-cheek joke, an over enthusiastic proclamation about their confidence in the product. It is not making a "claim", it is taking the piss.
Second, there is no bigger game in the ENTIRE INDUSTRY right now than Minecraft. This game announcement is massive by any standard.
Third, if this "blows up" in his face, that's more a statement of the hilarious immaturity inherent in this industry than anything he said. And no, he decidedly would not deserve any shit he would get.
There is no objective greatest game of the year. Here's a big secret: This game WILL be someone's Game of the Year. So, "probably yes" GOTY 2015 for certain people. Just not for you. And that's OK!
What went through their heads on this? I can't even begin to understand.