NightShift
Member
Fuck! And I was planning to pick up a Seagate to upgrade my PS4, feels like I dodged a bullet.
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The best PS4 hard drive (IGN)
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Fuck! And I was planning to pick up a Seagate to upgrade my PS4, feels like I dodged a bullet.
7DollarHagane
Banned
clearly you're joking
but that standard storage space i a complete joke anyway.
with every game NEEDED to be installed.
so yeah that one is nice.
still 1 tb is also useless
i need about 5 to no care .
if every loading screen of every game you play was reduced by 1 second it would add up quick.
1TB is working for me so far. I've downloaded most of my digital games and its looking like i'll be able to install all my disc games. I have about 15 disc games.
I don't mind cleaning out the fridge from time to time, the biggest thing is I wanted to be able to install Battlefield 4 + expansions without chewing up half the hard drive.
OmegaDL50
Member
Except the fact that outside of the 1.5tb listing none of the other HDD sizes in those failure rates apply to 2.5in laptop hdds, case in point the biggest failure contributor on that list is 3TB but there is no such thing as a 2.5 inch 3TB HDD, the highest current capacity size for laptop drives is 2TB, so that data infographic is likely reference enterprise level usage on 3.5in desktop sized HDDs.
You can't make make a blanket statement in reference to HDD failure rates without proper context. Case in point laptop HDDs are designed to run cooler and quieter than their bigger 3.5 desktop variants, and cooler operating temperatures generally goes back into reliability and longevity.
Of course a certain level of failure is to be expected even on the most reliable of devices, but when the sample size you take for HDD failure rates has listings for drives that don't even exist in the laptop market space, it skews the results a great deal and becomes misinformation.
Edit: Case in point....do you now see how misinformation can be a bad thing. NightShift thinks he's dodging a bullet based on information without it's proper context.
The Artisan
Member
what's the largest currently available? 3tb? and can anyone link me to it?
Mr_Antimatter
Member
Are they sure on those SSHD times? Mine seems pretty damn fast compared to others, and I remember some Bloodborne comparisons that put it a good deal ahead of mechanical, and just behind a pure SSD.
Once the sshd learns what the more commonly used files are, it speeds up a ton.
Once the sshd learns what the more commonly used files are, it speeds up a ton.
OmegaDL50
Member
The current largest is 2TB. I even said that 3TB drives don't yet exist in the 2.5in HDD market space.
This one way to get the current largest 2TB capacity drive for the PS4 that fits within it's 9.5mm standard for its drive cage.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=176709645&postcount=6
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KF4E83G/?tag=neogaf0e-20
You have several options. Buying a drive that's within an enclosure and reusing the stock 500GB on the PS4 as removable storage.
The Samsung Spinpoint M9T / Momentus SpinPoint ST2000LM003
This drive is 2TB, is 9.5mm in height (max height for the PS4 drive cage currently), and various options of buying this particular drive all fall within relatively the same price.
However oddly you are more likely to save money buying a drive that comes inside an enclosure sold as a usb portable, rather than the bare drive itself.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I8O6OQ4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ILALU9G/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FRHTSK4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Pfft. We may as well go back to the Stone Age when you had to get off your butt to put in, or take out, a disk.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I'm fine with my hybrid 1tb Seagate drive which was highly recommended by many here. I feel it is the best value out there. Personally, I trust the numerous testers of this forum over IGN.
This is very helpful. Thank you!
I have the Samsung Spinpoint M9T 2TB drive, and it's awesome having my entire PS4 library installed. I'm unfortunately at less than 500GB of space though.
I haven't noticed any problems with it. I get errors where games crash, but I'm not sure if I'm being paranoid and attributing it to the HDD as I don't have the error logs from before I installed the HDD to compare. I also don't know how frequently other people get these errors. Happens very infrequently though.
Holy shit, that's what that noise is!? I've been hearing the chirp every so often and couldn't figure out what it was.
I haven't noticed any problems with it. I get errors where games crash, but I'm not sure if I'm being paranoid and attributing it to the HDD as I don't have the error logs from before I installed the HDD to compare. I also don't know how frequently other people get these errors. Happens very infrequently though.
Holy shit, that's what that noise is!? I've been hearing the chirp every so often and couldn't figure out what it was.
I'm in the same boat and will be upgrading my HDD in a few days.
During the PT removal from PSN iirc, many posters on Gaf said a regular PS4 HDD backup to an external before you put in your new drive would preserve your PT file.
Monty Mole
Member
Is this showing that the WD drives are really unreliable compared to the 4tb Seagate drive?
OmegaDL50
Member
A topic on this subject was made and I addressed how this done there
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1099716
I hope this is useful.
The Artisan
Member
ok thanks. I don't plan on upgrading yet but I'll remember this for when I actually do. I feel like Ben 2TB would get filled up too quickly, so I'll wait for a 3TB one. Any word on when such a hd will be released?
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Is there a way to keep my patches when I uninstall a game?
OmegaDL50
Member
A 3TB drive at 9.5mm. I don't think one will happen any time soon.
Now if the PS4 had a larger drive cage this wouldn't be an issue.
Toshiba just recently introduced a 2.5 inch 3TB laptop HDD, however it's 15mm in height, larger than the maximum height of 9.5mm the PS4 uses.
There ARE unusual workarounds, however this requires modifying the actual plastic shell of the PS4 itself and using a SATA extender cable on an externally powered drive to use larger capacity 3.5in drives, but like all things this would naturally void the warranty of the console. So for now the current largest capacity the PS4 will support is 2TB without physically altering the console in some way.
Unfortunately, No because patches are merged into the game install itself. The reason for this is because some patches actually replace some files in the install and overwrite them.
swazzyswess
Member
I'd warn against the popular Seagate 2TB, unless I'm just crazy... see the video below. ever since I installed it, I'm noticing what I think is much slower texture loading in Witcher 3, for example. Not to mention the occasional beep.
But if the Witcher 3 always has this amount of pop-in, I'd gladly admit to being wrong. I'd rather not have to reinstall the stock HDD.
Minor spoiler due to mission title in HUD, btw (this is in Kaer Morhen, last third of the game)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF16NSNPb-0
But if the Witcher 3 always has this amount of pop-in, I'd gladly admit to being wrong. I'd rather not have to reinstall the stock HDD.
Minor spoiler due to mission title in HUD, btw (this is in Kaer Morhen, last third of the game)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF16NSNPb-0
Sorry to necro this thread but I'm having trouble with a new 2TB HDD put in my PS4.
I'm at the stage where I need to reinstall the ps4 system software via USB in safe mode but I keep getting an error that firmware 2.57 isnt being recognised.
I've looked around online and some users say to download a larger than usual 800MB file for this situation but I can't find it anywhere on Sony support sites. Anybody able to help?
I'm at the stage where I need to reinstall the ps4 system software via USB in safe mode but I keep getting an error that firmware 2.57 isnt being recognised.
I've looked around online and some users say to download a larger than usual 800MB file for this situation but I can't find it anywhere on Sony support sites. Anybody able to help?
Thanks for the reply!!
I'll try this now and hopefully this works for me, been struggling all day.
Fluffhead14
Member
hey guys, first time trying any of this. anyone see any good deals for hard drives? found this on quick search:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I8O6OQ4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
anyone have this one? good deal?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I8O6OQ4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
anyone have this one? good deal?
Cyborg
Member
Would anyone advice me to buy this Hard Drive for my PS4? Its an SSD+HDD
5.400 rpm
2, 5 inch
S-ATA III
Flashmemory
http://www.hardeschijfstore.nl/prod...t_68O-1po-VGzkVNRDlRpi1t8WcaKbVuVsxoCL3jw_wcB
5.400 rpm
2, 5 inch
S-ATA III
Flashmemory
http://www.hardeschijfstore.nl/prod...t_68O-1po-VGzkVNRDlRpi1t8WcaKbVuVsxoCL3jw_wcB
Audioboxer
Member
Thanks for this tip. Christmas present for myself to upgrade from 750GB. 59.99 on Amazon UK for the portable, 78.60 for the standalone. No brainer!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00G7LQAQY/
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00I8O6OQ4/
My 750GB is a SSHD (hybrid), but I really need more space. I'll just put the 750GB into my PS3.
Audioboxer
Member
Not what I like to read just after buying one lol. Hopefully for me, and sadly for you, it's just a bad drive you have.
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
Well if it helps, I have been running the same drive for about 4 months now and it is quiet.
Initially I thought my old 1TB Hybrid HDD was making noises, but it turned out it was the fan in the ps4, making a noise similar to HDD clicking and spinning. I took my ps4 apart and gave it a good clean and everything is great again.
Having a 2TB HDD is fantastic, should keep me going for another 2 years until I need more space.
the_batman
Banned
i'd advise against it seeing as how hybrid drives seem to take longer to load than both standard HDD's and SSD's.
i'd recommend this particular drive, it's 2TB and reasonably priced, in the US at least.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I8O6OQ4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Audioboxer
Member
Quick question, when I'm backing up the PS4 hard drive to an external does the external need to be formatted/empty to store the PS4 backup? Or just have enough space?
I only have one external which can be used to backup my PS4 750GB drive tomorrow to be replaced by 2TB. I'd rather not have to wipe the drive to do a backup.
I only have one external which can be used to backup my PS4 750GB drive tomorrow to be replaced by 2TB. I'd rather not have to wipe the drive to do a backup.
Robot Pants
Member
Seagate was your first mistake
Mike Works
Member
My Seagate Backup Plus Slim 2TB used to beep once every day or two. Did it for a month or so. But then either a PS4 firmware update or something else made it stop, and now it hasn't made a sound for over half a year.
Audioboxer
Member
Backing up and restoring takes ages! 5 hours to backup, and now I'm restoring with 5 hours left.
Thankfully nowhere near as bad on PS3. Took me over 24 hours to backup on it once. Shocking.
Thankfully nowhere near as bad on PS3. Took me over 24 hours to backup on it once. Shocking.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Took me 2 days for PS3. Silly console.
USB 2.0 speeds plus general PS3 slowness is a nightmare.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
I want a 2 tb drive for mine, anything I should avoid?
A 1TB 7200 HDD or SSHD (if you can still find one) would be a fine upgrade.
I own the same one and it makes all those same sounds. Or should I say it made all the same sounds. I recently upgraded to a newer model PS4 and stuck the same 2 TB drive in it and the sounds it used to make are now gone.