The Bookerman
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I'm happy I didn't go. This is nightmare level.
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The first public E3 looks like absolute INSANITY
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Oh wow, tickets are still available...that's crazy.
Let's do a math exercise!!!
Last year's attendance was 50,300. Now, this is an industry show, so obviously all 50k people are not going to be in there on the show floor; they're gonna be in meeting rooms, hotel conference rooms, etc etc. So let's be REALLY generous and say that at max, maybe 2/3rds of those people will be on the actual show floor on day one, so that's about 33,000 people on the floor (this sounds high). E3 has always been pretty crammed.
So they've added 15,000 tickets, and I'm pretty sure most of those people are gonna be there on day one, let's guesstimate 14,000. So now you've got 47,000 people in there at once.
If you wanna poke holes in my math, please do, but I get the nagging sensation there's +50k souls in there at the mo and it's basically at double what it usually is.
Last year's attendance was 50,300. Now, this is an industry show, so obviously all 50k people are not going to be in there on the show floor; they're gonna be in meeting rooms, hotel conference rooms, etc etc. So let's be REALLY generous and say that at max, maybe 2/3rds of those people will be on the actual show floor on day one, so that's about 33,000 people on the floor (this sounds high). E3 has always been pretty crammed.
So they've added 15,000 tickets, and I'm pretty sure most of those people are gonna be there on day one, let's guesstimate 14,000. So now you've got 47,000 people in there at once.
If you wanna poke holes in my math, please do, but I get the nagging sensation there's +50k souls in there at the mo and it's basically at double what it usually is.
Snowblindvictim
Member
The North Hall wasn't terrible, the lines were definitely a lot longer than normal but still manageable.
South Hall is absolute pandemonium, absolutely no personal space.
South Hall is absolute pandemonium, absolutely no personal space.
lovely ladies
Member
Sony was giving them out for free a week ago lol.
Smokey_Run
Member
Gonna suck for the few outlets doing night shows because it seems like it might be a wasteland outside of booked appointments and behind the scenes demos.
SolidSnakex
Member
I'm sure it's hard for them to ignore the numbers that TGS and gamescom pull since they're public events. Last year TGS had 271k people and gamescom had 345k. In 2015 E3 had its largest attendance in nearly a decade with over 50k, and that dropped last year. A big difference though is that both of those shows have days sectioned off for business and media before they open to the public.
Is it bad that I can't tell if this is serious or not?
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Deleted member 17706
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Just came back from walking the show floor and it was an absolute nightmare. Just an ocean of people and almost impossible to walk through many areas. Combine that with the fact that like 1 in 100 people were doing live streaming bullshit with their mobile phones and it was a really terrible experience just trying to navigate through.
Last year did feel a bit empty compared to previous years, but this is just nuts.
Last year did feel a bit empty compared to previous years, but this is just nuts.
NowhereFaded
Member
How much are tickets to this shit?!
$250 :/
StalkerUKCG
Banned
I'd rather die
Honestly this looks awful, Should have been Industry only and had some separate halls or days for the public outside of the actual "E3"
It's only really the smaller press who suffer here and that really stinks.
As a side note is that even legal. Shouldn't the fire department shut it down for safety reasons
Honestly this looks awful, Should have been Industry only and had some separate halls or days for the public outside of the actual "E3"
It's only really the smaller press who suffer here and that really stinks.
As a side note is that even legal. Shouldn't the fire department shut it down for safety reasons
this isnt hard to fix...
have press lines, even natsume has a press only area... i'd love to know who told press to get in the general line lol
the only thing the consumer pass holders can do is walk the show floor. come up with consumer friendly areas or events in different areas. if your going to charge and expand pass traffic, they need to invest into what the added traffic can do to space the crowds out.
lastly, you could have a press block of time or open the showfloor a day early for press, i can see some publishers not wanting to take part but it could help for others... also, isnt this why you can rent meeting rooms?
after so many in the press called the show dead and how they were all done in a day, i dont have a ton of sympathy, many of them said the event would have to change. that said its youtubers/smaller outlets are gonna feel the pain.
have press lines, even natsume has a press only area... i'd love to know who told press to get in the general line lol
the only thing the consumer pass holders can do is walk the show floor. come up with consumer friendly areas or events in different areas. if your going to charge and expand pass traffic, they need to invest into what the added traffic can do to space the crowds out.
lastly, you could have a press block of time or open the showfloor a day early for press, i can see some publishers not wanting to take part but it could help for others... also, isnt this why you can rent meeting rooms?
after so many in the press called the show dead and how they were all done in a day, i dont have a ton of sympathy, many of them said the event would have to change. that said its youtubers/smaller outlets are gonna feel the pain.
Naw man, that's definitely a case of an overbearing client.
"We want it to look exactly like this! A city that has a day night cycle and you can see it all from anywhere in the booth. People traffic be damned!"
The publishers aren't going to be willing to invest even more money into their E3 booths. Many have been downsizing or pulling out all together. Even more than ever, E3 feels like an event that's lost its purpose, and flailing around for a new one.
San Diego is also looking to double down on it's convention center in hopes of retaining Comic-Con. Maybe E3 will move there?
(As a San Diego native, this would bring me great joy)
E3 "We must fill the halls!"
Gamescom "hold all my beers"
Like this is every single year there. Lines can lead up to 7 hours of waiting to play a game if you are from the press you are more lucky and there is business area.
Also this is just a long hall those other halls are gigantic and yet it is filled to so many people it is even more insane than you think when you are there.
Gamescom "hold all my beers"
Like this is every single year there. Lines can lead up to 7 hours of waiting to play a game if you are from the press you are more lucky and there is business area.
Also this is just a long hall those other halls are gigantic and yet it is filled to so many people it is even more insane than you think when you are there.
MrTroubleMaker
Gold Member
:O wow so many people
Yep. I skipped PAX West last year after having kind of a bad experience in 2015. The main hall had every line constantly capped. Every time my friend and I came back around they were still capped and an Enforcer was hanging around trying to make sure people didn't linger around waiting for the line to open again. It was like this at every damn booth. It resulted in us basically doing laps through the main hall for like 2 hours unable to get into any damn lines before we just said fuck it and went to another floor.
I've gone to 5 different PAX West/Primes now and it gets more and more commercial and kind of gross each time. There's still fun to be had and I still might go back sometime, but I want to hear about steps being taken to improve the show. I'm not going back to capped lines that take 3 hours to get through once you're in. Granted there are other parts of the show to see, but the main hall was always sort of like "E3 for the rest of us" and now its basically untenable.
seriously? Who willingly spends that much money to stand in a line for a couple of hours to play a demo for 10 minutes
I went to GamesCon when the Wii was released, never again. Cons suck
Sword Of Doom
Member
Press like Giantbomb have been there since Saturday. They should have had press/"influencer" days during the weekend or yesterday. I guess they won't do that cause it would mean spending more money
Yeah it seems silly. Although there was a time in my life where I would have done that
Yeah it seems silly. Although there was a time in my life where I would have done that
GustyGardens
Banned
Aww, it looks homey.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Man, I hate going to conventions even when they're fairly well run (like PAX and PSX generally are). I wasn't planning on going to E3 this year, but I have a meeting scheduled for Thursday. Seeing this thread and now I'm really dreading it.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
CalamityPixel
Member
Bossu! ;-;
SOMEONE SAVE KOJIMA SENPAI
That's a weird oversight indeed.They could have at least looked into it a little bit? Sure some non-press gets in on press days anyway during Gamescom somehow but they didn't even consider flood-gates here if press is gonna miss out on meetings.
codswallop
Member
Not sure why they ever thought this was a good idea. If anything, extend it by a day and make only that day public, or make the last day or two public like TGS.
IMO E3 is dying and they're throwing stuff at the wall in the hope they can prolong it.
IMO E3 is dying and they're throwing stuff at the wall in the hope they can prolong it.
I pay about that every year for Comic Con, but there's a LOT more to do than just wait in line and play Demo's.
The Greek Freak
Member
I can't believe people are willingly waiting in line for hours to play a game for a little bit.
Even if they were giving out a free finished copy of Mario I wouldn't wait in line for 4 hours.
So many salty people here bitter that their job sucks and that other people work in the games press.
Even if they were giving out a free finished copy of Mario I wouldn't wait in line for 4 hours.
So many salty people here bitter that their job sucks and that other people work in the games press.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I didn't think it was going to be this much of a mess. I'm going to the show tomorrow for work, but it's sounding like it's going to be kind of unpleasant.
But with Comic con, the lines are somewhat organized with dividers. I don't see any lines here, but a crowded mess of bodies
If there's one thing Comic Con deserves to be praised on, it's that they're REALLY good at organizing and keeping things in lines.
SafeinSound
Member
You couldn't pay me enough money to go
Simply Sami
Member
If I could go to the conferences, I would.
But like someone above said, even if they paid me I wouldn't go to the show floor.
Ridiculous really. It hurts the smaller journalists from other countries that have paid a lot of money to get there. It doesn't hurt IGN or gamespot as the developers go to them.
But like someone above said, even if they paid me I wouldn't go to the show floor.
Ridiculous really. It hurts the smaller journalists from other countries that have paid a lot of money to get there. It doesn't hurt IGN or gamespot as the developers go to them.