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[Dunki]

It is more a case of me not finding it entertaining or enjoyable.

This is the whole point. There are many things i would call the last of zs but IT never was fun or enjoyable. Ut was depressing, vile and cruel. But because of this it was a fantastisch experience. And this games goes even Fürther. Its Designer to make you feel had for everyone you kill. Like enemies now all have names. Like enemies now communicate whith each other. How they react when you kill someone etc.

 

[Moses85]

joe_zazen I want to have your problems

 

[NXGamer]

It is more a case of me not finding it entertaining or enjoyable.

You can choose to NOT kill the dogs if it upsets you.

BUT the big question in a game about killing, disembowlement, jugular penetration, heads being blown off and murder on a mass scale, maybe this is not the most upsetting part of the game for you?

 

[Dacon]

This is the whole point. There are many things i would call the last of zs but IT never was fun or enjoyable. Ut was depressing, vile and cruel. But because of this it was a fantastisch experience. And this games goes even Fürther. Its Designer to make you feel had for everyone you kill. Like enemies now all have names. Like enemies now communicate whith each other. How they react when you kill someone etc.

I mean, I thought the gameplay was fun and engaging. I enjoyed outsmarting the enemies and taking them out methodically on the harder difficulties.

You could do a lot of cool shit and set up some fun and interesting ways to take out enemies.

 

[Ar¢tos]

How did this thread leaked all the way from Era and got here?
joe_zazen please make a list of what digital animals you accept killing in a game, which you are comfortable killing and which you refuse to kill and why some are more important and less worth of digital death than others.

 

[CuteFaceJay]

So you skipped RDR2 too? Unlucky mate you missing out on some real banggers!

 

[Whitecrow]

"OH bite me as you please! I as a human am not worth of your forgiveness, you are such pure and godly animal race, I'm sure there's aplace in heaven for all of you even if you kill humans!"

Could barely say the OP, lying in the ground without moving a muscle, while he was being attacked and ripped by a ferociuos wild dog.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Pfft.

Give me a shout when i can strangle cats. I want to know how it compares to real life.

 

[Danjin44]

Doesn’t matter how much you love dogs or even your pet if they suddenly come out trying bite your face off or your loved ones then you choose your own survival or your loved one over a dog.

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

Damn there sure are a lot of sensitive ppl here. Too much new age SJW and crappy YT and twitter reading. You could of killed dogs billions of times before in game:

Resident Evil 1/2/5
Silent Hill 1/2
Call of Duty 4
Fallout 3
RDR

and so on. And now you are all of a sudden sensitive to killing a virtual dog in a video game but have no issue slaughtering females and slitting their throats? GTFO.

 

[Ar¢tos]

We shouldn't kill enemies either. It's not their fault that they had a bad upbringing or were abused in their childhood or were infected with a nasty fungus or simply have different opinions. They were robbed of their dreams, robbed of their childhood!
We should talk to them, stage interventions, sing songs, play board games, hug and gaze at the beauty of the world together. Digital life is too short to waste it fighting.

 

[MafiaMurderBag]

Well you have to kill a cute bunny rabbit in the first TLoU 1 - And there was a whole "mission" built around that. Game of the Year.

Call of Duty transcended video games and became a pop culture phenomenon. You stab dogs all the time in that game.

You can punch Wolves and kill their pups in MGS 1. The greatest game of all time.

If killing an animal in video game comes as such a surprise to you that it upsets you, You shouldn't even be playing games.

What next, SJW's pressure devs to undo months worth of programming to replace the dogs with android dogs or walking venus fly traps? Tins of beans with legs for comic relief and to cause minimal offence?

 

[Danjin44]

We also saw peta overreact to Mario wearing Tanooki suit.

 

[Damien Crowley]

This is the whole point. There are many things i would call the last of zs but IT never was fun or enjoyable. Ut was depressing, vile and cruel. But because of this it was a fantastisch experience. And this games goes even Fürther. Its Designer to make you feel had for everyone you kill. Like enemies now all have names. Like enemies now communicate whith each other. How they react when you kill someone etc.

Dunki, your deutsche Autokorrektur shows

Except for that, I see it just like you.

 

[CrustyBritches]

Has she tried petting the dogs instead of stabbing and shooting them?

 

[Digity]

Latest Game Informer podcast talks about how you have to kill dogs (complete with whimpering) and how your dog gets killed.

Not as bad as Wolfenstein 2, but bad enough that I am passing.

Just thought I’d pass the info on to fellow soft hearted dog lovers.

This place may be more you style, www.resetera.com

 

[Mista]

I’ll kill any dog that attacks me and plans on biting my balls off. Killing people is alright innit?

 

[Holdfing]

I’ll kill any dog that isn’t my dog I don’t give a fuck.

Even then I’ll kill my dog. She knows it too. We have an understanding.

Grow up.

I like my dog, but if he ever attacks me, he's done.
Digital friends dying can cause a reaction if the writing's good. Digital enemies of any kind are worth less than nothing.

 

[Dunki]

Dunki, your deutsche Autokorrektur shows

Except for that, I see it just like you.

My phone really sucks

 

[New Yorks Finest]

Its a game.

In a fictional art form, dogs die in real life random circumstances..ok?..Jesus, is this even worth an explanation to grown a...ppl.

Is funny as hell tho, all these naysayers will be jumping like lil girls once they see UPS truck pull up with a copy

 

[Silent Duck]

It is more a case of me not finding it entertaining or enjoyable.

What if the dog looked like this instead?

Would you want to kill it then?

 

[alabtrosMyster]

to this i escape of the dogs in gaming... when i have to attack i only use the fist or no lethal weapons.

I never kill animals in any game.

We all have our quirks.

What if the dog looked like this instead?

Would you want to kill it then?

Yes, probably even more so! I mean this has to be antifa material, it's so horrible.

I kick dogs in real life, some owners have dangerous animals they can't control, you have to defend yourself otherwise you end up in the news. Sure those cute baby dogs nobody is going to kick them, even like 99+ of dogs are very nice and friendly. But a dog is a dog, they may not be very intelligent, but they do have agency and a will of their own, sometimes they are dangerous, in the case of TLoU2 they certainly are part of a group that is all about killing strangers, any strangers, no questions asked... The dog may not get all the nuances, but it does get the general idea, and he is part of the pack just as much as anyone.

Show some actual respect to other beings in nature.

Is a mature game, but is really necesary do that?

What about Mario who keeps killing turtles? The very first metal gear had dogs too... And many many more, this is as fake outrage as the porn stars that complained people did stuff they didn't like what people did with her 3d model in vr or something she wasn't involved in at all.

Just imagine how triggered people would have been if she had a lesbian relationship with a female dog and had to kill it.

Well, the horrible thing that happens in the trailer when it fades to black and you ear a gun shot... Well, you just spoiled the whole game for everyone now! You should be cancelled

 

[Shagger]

What if the dog looked like this instead?

Would you want to kill it then?

DEMON!!!

 

[IbizaPocholo]

 

[Zaffo]

Nevermind.

 

[Guiberu]

Can you use white phosphorus on the dogs though?

 

[Silent Duck]

Did you make that for this thread? If you did you need to put it in the Gif and Meme Contest because it's genius.

Just something I threw together quickly for the thread.
Didn’t think it was contest worthy, but what the hell. I’ll submit anyway. Thanks.

 

[Swipeyowifelike]

More bitching about whatever can be bitched about. Grow up

 

[Dibils2k]

Are you so soft you can't see a digital doggo dying? I mean, we're killing humans, wild animals and fungus zombies, you know...

Or you think killing virtual doggos will lead to mass shootings in pet shops?

Dogs are better than all of them

 

[Birdo]

I love how we've been slaughtering men and boys in games for decades. But women and dogs cause controversy....

 

[Strider Highwind]

I love how we've been slaughtering men and boys in games for decades. But women and dogs cause controversy....

Or how Nathan Drake and Lara Croft traverse the globe killing people for personal gain while stealing from the natives and theyre considered the hero lol

I mean the last Tomb Raider game involved killing a bunch of people who wanted to be left the fuck alone, but her daddy issues and corny ass mission came before their lives lmao

This is a dumbass thread. If I get.in trouble for saying it, fuck it.

 

[Swipeyowifelike]

I love how we've been slaughtering men and boys in games for decades. But women and dogs cause controversy....

Do they or is this just another manufactured controversy to stick it to whoever is supposedly on the other side?

 

[xrnzaaas]

Wait so Ellie will have her own dog in the game? Because if she will it's going to suck when they'll eventually give it a painful death.

I can handle killing trained attack dogs.

 

[lock2k]

I thought Ellie only killed pussy.

 

[Swipeyowifelike]

Wait so Ellie will have her own dog in the game? Because if she will it's going to suck when they'll eventually give it a painful death.

I can handle killing trained attack dogs.

When have you read or seen any of this? I don't recall Agro being something that was a point of reference for ND.

 

[ZeroZeroQuatre]

And will it be possible to use a dog as a silencer for my murdering-arsenal ?
After all, Postal 2 already achieved peak realism in 2003...


... and we shouldn't accept less in 2020 !

Huh... beware cat-being-used-as-a-silencer-for-a-shotgun-trigger-warning...

 

[Shmunter]

Latest Game Informer podcast talks about how you have to kill dogs (complete with whimpering) and how your dog gets killed.

Not as bad as Wolfenstein 2, but bad enough that I am passing.

Just thought I’d pass the info on to fellow soft hearted dog lovers.

Really bro? I also love dogs. But this is fiction set I n a brutal violent world. The dogs are hostile, and it’s a videogame.

Toughen up princess.

 

[Swipeyowifelike]

I thought Ellie only killed pussy.

And obviously a lot of dicks..........rile them up at the very least

 

[DeepEnigma]

You guys do know this isn't Enders Game, right? You aren't being fooled into killing actual dogs.

That being said, I'll happily admit that I don't like dogs and go out of my way to kill them in games, so kind of the opposite approach to OP.

Damn, calm down e-Dahmer.

 

[GermanZepp]

Maybe they can add a mode that replace dogs. Like angry pigs, that would be scary as fuck.

 

[Swipeyowifelike]

Maybe they can add a mode that replace dogs. Like angry pigs, that would be scary as fuck.

Naw, to many people are getting pet pigs.
Giant rats will be the only enemy.

 

[Sterling88]

What's with all the SJW snowflake triggered shit? The dogs aren't real and it's a bleak apocalyptic world. Are y'all expecting sunshine, rainbows and handholding?

 

[Spukc]

Naw, to many people are getting pet pigs.
Giant rats will be the only enemy.

So koot
Pet rats are also koot

 

[dDoc]

Some people really like dogs though. Some people also prefer dogs to SJW's. Do the maths & it's easy to see "how" some people might in turn not enjoy Last of Us 2.

Someone who feels this way has the option to skip the game. Just a thought

 

[Swipeyowifelike]

SJW got brought up in a thread about dogs. It has become parody

 

[I'm nobody]

Who ever wrote this quit gaming now, I've killed dogs in resident evil, wolfenstine. Red dead and skinned animals and many other countless games. People need to stop been so fucking sensitive and grow a pair of balls

We are turning into a world u see on demolition man.

 

[Damien Crowley]

Who ever wrote this quit gaming now, I've killed dogs in resident evil, wolfenstine. Red dead and skinned animals and many other countless games. People need to stop been so fucking sensitive and grow a pair of balls

We are turning into a world u see on demolition man.

Will we learn at last what the three shells are for???

 

[Swipeyowifelike]

Will we learn at last what the three shells are for???

 

[joe_zazen]

2 - Your source for "gaming journalism" is misleading you, look at the easy allies preview video - They mention that Neil Drukmann mentioned to the previewers present at the event that the dogs killing was all optional (at least in the portion they played).

We’ll see.

Unfortunately this is the world we live in, people have their values latter completely reversed, they clearly don't have enough contact with real nature... animals are certainly not harmless, and guard dogs that attack you aren't gentle animals, this is false ethics.

You read too much into this.

Here is my mentality. Dogs have been constant companions since 12 years old. I have been with 4 dogs as they died, and it fucking broke my heart each time. I can make myself cry just by thinking about feeling their bodies stiffen as life left them, one moment there, the next gone. I do not want a game that forces me to remember experience those emotions because of some garbage narrative as with Wolfenstein 2. That is not fun, that is not entertaining to me. It is the same reason I will never play ‘mom dying from cancer simulator.’

Druckman has no problem manipulating his audience to give them the feels, and yeah I’ll definitely be waiting to play this one and reading spoilers before deciding to pick it up.

 

[CyRuZ]

Then play something else!