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[SuperBlank]

It's so sad that so many rational, reasonable posts are being prefaced by "I'll probably get banned for saying this". There are also some ugly posts out there with the same sentiment, sure, but it truly shows how restricted people were in sharing their thoughts and feelings. No good for a place that aims to be built on discourse. You've got to be open to hearing conflicting points of view and discerning whether they are truly hateful and spiteful, or they just foster a different perspective. I hope GAF can improve in this way.

Though even of the ugly posts, many aren't so reprehensible as to deserve a ban. Especially in light of how censorious GAF has been in the past when dealing with people in similar situations, yet different positions.

 

[rochellepaws]

You know what I've always hated most about Neogaf?

I rarely felt like I could speak my mind. You risked being called something terrible for simply asking a question, or asking for more evidence, or simply being on the fence about something. I realize people hate toxicity, but the ban culture here -fostered- toxicity because the bandwagon attack mobs were allowed to shower insults at will... even if the insults themselves were hate driven ['cunt', for example].

If you asked a question, you were accused of baiting. Do you guys realize how toxic that is? People should always be allowed to ask questions. If you asked for more evidence, you were done. Heck, I fucking hate Trump. But if I mention that? Then clearly, I'm lying... right? I'm just setting up for something else. Bullshit. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. I've been far more left than almost every one here for longer than most here have been alive... but just because I don't agree with their agenda I risk being painted as a fascist, which is absurd. That's a culture of fear. That's censorship through ideology shaming. I guarantee my anarchy trumps your fucking Clinton loving nonsense, but god forbid I say anything against Clinton, because I get painted as a Trump loving fascist. That's sick. Sick, sick, sick. Broken minds led by broken ideology ruled by broken moderation that can't handle being questioned.

Now, you know what? I don't know if you're guilty of anything. I don't know if what was said to happen happened, and honestly, even if it did, I don't know what signals were or weren't sent, or what level of miscommunication happened. So I don't particularly like that you were summarily executed by mob. My guess is you're full of shit... but I know that's just a guess. I know I have no idea. And I won't execute you for it, just like I wouldn't execute Naughty Dog, even though it was so much fun for people here to leap to ridiculous conclusions based on a single tweet.

But you know what? You fostered an environment that summarily executes with no evidence. So while I hate it, and I'll -always- be on the side of 'wait for more information' regardless of the topic, I can't say I can't see the sick humor of it all. Some people need to learn by example, and if you're truly innocent of all charges, then I hope next time someone gets accused of something you support the presumption of innocence. This is not saying I don't think horrible things happen all the time - they do... my wife has been sexually harassed at work and I know how hard it is to come forward and rock the boat.

If you're guilty, then I hope you learn. Evolve. Grow. Become a better person. Everyone can change, even though some swear no one can.

If you're innocent, then also learn. Evolve. Grow. The culture of 'no proof needed' you fostered is sick... it flies in the face of everything our collective cultures have learned and fought for over the past few millennia. You reaped what you sowed, and it's either ironic, or horrifying, based on your guilt... which I can never know.

I'll probably get banned for this post. I don't think I said anything worth being banned for. In fact, I think this is a pretty fair assessment of both your actions, the accusations against you, and the general culture of this site. If you ban me, fine. If you don't, I'll still be here, posting, because, honestly, I don't judge a community on a single individual member. Heck, I don't judge -you- based on actions of a previous you, because I know people change over time.

People learn. People grow. People evolve. Maybe you have, maybe you haven't. Now it's time for you to do so, and in the process, evolve this site so it doesn't become an echo chamber of toxicity against anything deemed toxic.

I think this is all very fair criticism and I hope this transition period for Gaf will see some reflection on that kind of demonising attitude which had become endemic.

 

[danowat]

Sexual assault accusations don't destroy men's reputations.

You really believe that?

 

[Darkwater]

Having your reputation completely destroyed isn't fun either. That's why people should try to keep allegations in consideration while at the same time not taking out the pitchforks.

The term for this is 'the court of public opinion'.

 

[CREMSteve]

You know what I've always hated most about Neogaf?

I rarely felt like I could speak my mind. You risked being called something terrible for simply asking a question, or asking for more evidence, or simply being on the fence about something. I realize people hate toxicity, but the ban culture here -fostered- toxicity because the bandwagon attack mobs were allowed to shower insults at will... even if the insults themselves were hate driven ['cunt', for example].

If you asked a question, you were accused of baiting. Do you guys realize how toxic that is? People should always be allowed to ask questions. If you asked for more evidence, you were done. Heck, I fucking hate Trump. But if I mention that? Then clearly, I'm lying... right? I'm just setting up for something else. Bullshit. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. I've been far more left than almost every one here for longer than most here have been alive... but just because I don't agree with their agenda I risk being painted as a fascist, which is absurd. That's a culture of fear. That's censorship through ideology shaming. I guarantee my anarchy trumps your fucking Clinton loving nonsense, but god forbid I say anything against Clinton, because I get painted as a Trump loving fascist. That's sick. Sick, sick, sick. Broken minds led by broken ideology ruled by broken moderation that can't handle being questioned.

Now, you know what? I don't know if you're guilty of anything. I don't know if what was said to happen happened, and honestly, even if it did, I don't know what signals were or weren't sent, or what level of miscommunication happened. So I don't particularly like that you were summarily executed by mob. My guess is you're full of shit... but I know that's just a guess. I know I have no idea. And I won't execute you for it, just like I wouldn't execute Naughty Dog, even though it was so much fun for people here to leap to ridiculous conclusions based on a single tweet.

But you know what? You fostered an environment that summarily executes with no evidence. So while I hate it, and I'll -always- be on the side of 'wait for more information' regardless of the topic, I can't say I can't see the sick humor of it all. Some people need to learn by example, and if you're truly innocent of all charges, then I hope next time someone gets accused of something you support the presumption of innocence. This is not saying I don't think horrible things happen all the time - they do... my wife has been sexually harassed at work and I know how hard it is to come forward and rock the boat.

If you're guilty, then I hope you learn. Evolve. Grow. Become a better person. Everyone can change, even though some swear no one can.

If you're innocent, then also learn. Evolve. Grow. The culture of 'no proof needed' you fostered is sick... it flies in the face of everything our collective cultures have learned and fought for over the past few millennia. You reaped what you sowed, and it's either ironic, or horrifying, based on your guilt... which I can never know.

I'll probably get banned for this post. I don't think I said anything worth being banned for. In fact, I think this is a pretty fair assessment of both your actions, the accusations against you, and the general culture of this site. If you ban me, fine. If you don't, I'll still be here, posting, because, honestly, I don't judge a community on a single individual member. Heck, I don't judge -you- based on actions of a previous you, because I know people change over time.

People learn. People grow. People evolve. Maybe you have, maybe you haven't. Now it's time for you to do so, and in the process, evolve this site so it doesn't become an echo chamber of toxicity against anything deemed toxic.

This is spot on.

 

[Amory]

Well, I'm in. I like the vidya games

Been a weird few days

 

[BLOODED_hands]

Sorry. I'm not trying to shit up the place even further, but I'd rather have my account removed.

I'd close it myself, but I'm not sure if that's possible.

Add me to this too. Any mods please nuke my account since y'all didn't way earlier.

 

[RanoNL]

Tyler, you are a horrible person. You are a sexual harasser and a narcissist. People like you make me sick. Men like you make me feel ashamed to be a man. I don't want to be a part of a community that is led by you. Or people who (still) support you.

 

[psychowave]

You really believe that?

Is EviLore's reputation any worse than it was before this all blew up? There's as many people defending him as there are people condemning him, if not more. Did Donald Trump not become president of the US after being accused of sexual harassment by 13 different women?

 

[RulkezX]

What do you think of handling this situation? Why do you think all the former mods left in unison?

Judging by how they are actìng on Twitter it was to maintain their internet celebrity and enjoy 5 minutes of fame for bringing down GAF.

Industry people were celebrating the forum being down, the alt right were celebrating and the mod team were acting like conquering heroes skip absolutely had no part in fostering the toxic rep the forum had gathered over recent times.

 

[Jathaine]

Is EviLore's reputation any worse than it was before this all blew up?

It obviously is.

 

[LaNaranja]

Political and social discourse will not be allowed in the new Off-Topic. Those types of discussions greatly added to the harsh and unwelcoming atmosphere of Off-Topic, which pushed many users away.

Yeah, it pushed away assholes and shitheels. Now instead you have decided to push away the marginalized to provide a safe space for the worst kinds of fuck heads. What a joke.

this is cowardice.

let's be clear: much of the gaming community, as it were, is a dumpster fire. you'd be hard pressed to find a decent corner to talk about culture & games without hearing basement dwellers bemoan SJW's, diversity/representation in gaming, etc.

one of the only things separating GAF for years was its zero tolerance for gamergate, and for the most part (let's be honest, the late aughts were rough here & most places), bigotry, misogyny (hello friends), homophobia, transphobia, etc.

we literally watched the cesspool that was gg bleed into the alt-right. harassment of women & minorities continues to this day, and we exist in a timeline with open white supermacists in the white house. you don't get to straddle the fence with shit like this. this is literally why dudes like boogie (rightfully) got chased out of here with pitchforks: you stomp these things out & deny them a platform, or you sit back and quietly co-sign them, standing for nothing.

evilore: you handled this in the worst possible way.
we all know your past, and why you weren't given the benefit of the doubt here. you built a fantastic base of people to run things here - stumpkapow, y2kev, xander, eatchildren, blackace & so many others - and you left all that by the wayside, because you'd rather nuke any talk of your personal conduct from orbit until it's too large, and then just half victim-blame instead of simply owning something & standing for the progressive values you parade when it's convenient & walk back when it's not. at least now your ego can stay front & center and you won't feel the dissonance from having to front as riding for something you're not about.

to those of you just wanting to talk vidya games: literally every other corner on the internet allows this. i realize a few threads/posts here & there on why supporting people down with hateful garbage is momentarily inconvenient, but this place was something because it fostered input from circles usually unwelcome in gaming communities.

that's gone now, because anyone (myself included) who cared about social/racial/etc justice isn't comfortable abiding a serial sexual assaulter who saw the ad revenue here & met a chance to be about something with a slap in the face to what he'd built. alamo drafthouse'd, if you will - so yeah, you likely won't hear from many people who aren't white males anymore, enjoy that.

this place stands for nothing now. i'm grateful for my time here when that wasn't the case. take care, all.

Pretty much this. Most of the people who made this place great are already gone but for any of you who still haven't left and read this, thanks for the good times. Bye bye.

 

[jm89]

The "Ban culture" is what pisses me off about this place the most. You say something against the sheep you would have a hundred idiots replying to you to get you banned.

 

[UnNamed]

Maybe i'm wrong but seeing all this thread from people want their ban or fuck you bitch lolol make me think that wherever this people will go they probably will tends to create the same mess.

How this new site or their creators pretend to create a mature site without any problem with user who behave like this?

Maybe they think they can control it and everything will be good, and this user will magically be better people in these new places?

Do they think they have learned something from what happened to Neogaf?

 

[danowat]

Is EviLore's reputation any worse than it was before this all blew up? There's as many people defending him as there are people condemning him, if not more. Did Donald Trump not become president of the US after being accused of sexual harassment by 13 different women?

I don't know Evilore, I don't know his reputation before, but allegations, unfounded or otherwise can, and do, a lot of damage to lots of people.

 

[Åesop]

The step to anonymous mods/admins seems a bit strange. I've noticed some "personality" mods were banning people for the dumbest reasons sometimes. Even I was banned for 2 weeks just because I posted a joke about "sony just shot themselves in the foot" in some post (?), while there were shitposts all over the thread that were ignored. At least you knew who banned you and they could potentially be held responsible if they abuse their mod rights. Making it anonymous is just begging for personal abuse

 

[psychowave]

It obviously is.

How? So many people are jumping over each other to suck his dick and defend him. Seems like he'll be just fine.

I don't know Evilore, I don't know his reputation before, but allegations, unfounded or otherwise can, and do, a lot of damage to lots of people.

If you can become president of the US after having dozens of women accuse you of harassment and publicly bragging about it, I don't see how a mere unproven accusation is gonna do much harm.

 

[GCX]

Glad neogaf looks like it will survive this. The implications of getting rid of the political and social discussion are probably for the best tbh.

Depends on how you define "survive". Fellow members are the reason to visit any internet forum and this event has driven a good chunk of long-time GAFers away. Only time will tell what kind of state the forum will end up in. It definitely won't be the same as before though.

 

[Seraph_Nicholas]

Man, this crowd of celebrants is just ruining the mood for all the solemn account suicides, huh?

 

[MadChapelier]

I think focusing on video games and not on political stuff is a very good thing for GAF.

 

[Sad Affleck]

What do you think of handling this situation? Why do you think all the former mods left in unison?

Very poorly handled. My guess is that the moderators were expecting Evilore's statement to be about his deep regret, apology to the offended party and promise to change and be a better person, they learned that he was planning on defending himself and speaking ill of the other person, they anticipated the huge backlash and bailed.

 

[User123456]

The term for this is 'the court of public opinion'.

Oh yeah, I know it's a thing. I'm just saying it sucks. Basically the non-physical equivalent of a public lynching, and it can have very serious consequences.

Sexual assault accusations don't destroy men's reputations.

This isn't my experience. I've seen it happen many times, and then there's also the shitstorm unfolding right now. But if you disagree on this then we'll just have to agree to disagree.

 

[Mitch]

Bring back the Beer OT. 😩

 

[Zelias]

Evilore, you're a disgrace and I cannot in good conscience continue to post on this site while you run and profit from it. Your statement is piss-poor, though not quite as horribly offensive as the victim-blaming and gaslighting shite you tried to pull in the Waypoint article, and your history of this kind of behaviour towards women - you know, the ass-grabbing, the revenge porn - really damns you here. Your chickens are coming home to roost.

I can see why you'd want to nuke political and social discussion when it threatens to put a spotlight on your own ugly, predatory behaviours. But in your knee-jerk dropping of OT, however temporary, you have also thrown out many good and useful communities on the site that catered to the more vulnerable members of the site, such as Mental Health GAF.

And the new mod policy of complete anonymity is laughable. I can't see that going wrong at all. But then again maybe it'll be easier when people aren't allowed to discuss such thorny topics as whether the gaming community and its luminaries have shitty attitudes towards women!

Anyways, GAF is done for me. A new Era dawns, I'll see people there. Or not. If you stay here, enjoy the zombie GAF has become. The progressivism on this board was a major factor in me coming and staying here, without it, you're just another gaming forum and there's plenty of shitholes out there.

And if it makes banning me easier - you're a real piece of shit Evilore, fuck you.

Oh, and just in case it's necessary for authentication purposes or anything: I am the Zelias in some of the 'refugee' discords.

 

[DopeToast]

I'm sure an argument could be made that NeoGAF needed some changes, but I don't think the temporary removal of the Off-Topic section and the permanent removal of political and social discussion is the way to go about doing that. I also think it seems like a deflection from the actual reason why people started leaving in the first place, which were the allegations against Mr. Malka.

 

[Raitaro]

This is my take on this whole situation. Some of you may remember my position during the Naughty Dog harassment issue. I fully supported the alleged victim's right to disclose any such incident because making these incidents public helps bring forth change in industries where sexual harassment ends up being institutionalized due to the power structure and fear of retaliation. Hopefully my earlier firm position on this issue will stop people from calling me names.

Evilore might be a cool dude or he might be a giant douchebag, I've never met him so I have no idea. This case of sexual harassment or assault that involves him is different to previous cases like Weinstein or Naughty Dog. There is no power dynamic between him and his accuser, no credible threat of retaliation or abuse of one's position in return for sexual favors. It is an issue between two individuals and it has nothing to do with recent other cases of sexual misconduct in the workplace.

I've read the original Facebook posts, Evilore's response and Patrick Klepek's article. Based on the information at hand I believe there's an equal chance of the alleged victim telling the truth, Evilore telling the truth or both of them bending the truth. As such I find it impossible to determine whether or not Evilore was targeted by a scorned ex lover or if he actually is a sexual predator.

In any case, I won't be boycotting NeoGAF because of this incident. Even if everything the alleged victim said is true, Evilore's behavior doesn't cross the line that I've personally set as the threshold after which I stop supporting an individual or company. Assuming the victim's story is true, I don't think that Evilore completely misinterpreting the victim's intentions and making a cringeworthy move after a night of the two of them drinking and partying is such a heinous crime to warrant a boycott.

I think I'm mostly on the same page as this (even if I could never see myself being in a situation where I'd try to initiate sex without getting crystal clear, even in hindsight undisputable signals from the other party that she wants that, or see myself get so drunk that I would forget about such moral rules and guidelines.)

That said, the whole ordeal has soured me on Gaf as a place I go to relax and discuss news and almost childlike nerdy stuff like favorite winter levels, recommended horror movies and games, best fighting game stages, rumored fighting game characters, wrongly viewed sprites, obscure (import) games or the coolest art books. This in large part because of how willing and ready the rest of the internet seemed to be to brandish every Gaffer as a toxic, cancerous, sexist, radical(-left) person after the site went down (which is somewhat ironic if you consider that many people on this forum were also very willing to do the same to fellow Gaffers...).

Can we ever return to discuss such things in light of all of this negativity and pitchfork mob behavior (and regardless of who was telling the truth)? I honestly don't know. I will have to see how things develop and which alternatives stick around before I'm ready to recommit myself to this forum beyond lurking occassionally. If anyone has recommendations for (non-Discord) alternatives beyond Reddit (r/games), Giant Bomb and Waypoint, please share them so I can at least keep tabs on them. Being very isolated in terms of gaming peers, I do need some place to share my thoughts and discuss gaming news in order not to feel like I'm all alone on an island, that much is certain.

 

[BibiMaghoo]

Hiding mods and banning regular OT discussions is bullshit for sure. Why not just give the mods their own identity instead of bumping regular members accounts up? A mod will still be accountable and recognisable but won't have a decade of post history for people to sift through for dox.

This needs to be rethought, badly.

 

[cromofo]

Maybe it's for the best. Weeding out the crazies.

Hell, some idiots thought GAF was under attack from the Russians and Trump admin.

 

[ExVicis]

Well now. I don't know what these allegations are or what the fallout was but I do know I'm in no way knowledgeable to make any judgement. I will say I'm sorry there was (and still is) such a large amount of toxicity following all this. I hope whatever you decide Evillore works out for everyone and we all have a fine time on NeoGAF again.

All in all, welcome back NeoGAF.

 

[SuperBlank]

The step to anonymous mods/admins seems a bit strange. I've noticed some "personality" mods were banning people for the dumbest reasons sometimes. Even I was banned for 2 weeks just because I posted a joke about "sony just shot themselves in the foot" in some post (?), while there were shitposts all over the thread that were ignored. At least you knew who banned you and they could potentially be held responsible if they abuse their mod rights. Making it anonymous is just begging for personal abuse

Yeah it's a pretty horrible decision that removes any lingering accountability and is only going to amplify the bias and personality that the site is allegedly trying to divorce itself from. I mean what could go wrong with invisible mods operating within a shroud of shadows on a site that has a history of power abuse?

But it is what it is. I wonder if it will prove tenable.

 

[Chris1]

Given this thread is a graveyard posting here is probably gonna be a mistake but..

I don't agree with banning all those threads in OT. The mental health one for example has quite literally saved peoples lives. That's a bad move IMO but I definitely agree all the Trump nonsense has hurt discussion there, even UK politics threads have shitposters bringing up Trump even though he's irrelevant and it gets pretty damn annoying.

Can't say I agree with anonymity for mods either, isn't that the whole point of modbot?

 

[Jasup]

This will be my last post on NeoGAF.

Please permaban me, I have no interest in coming back to this site anymore.


We know (she's bi), to handle things like this was very poor form.

 

[Nemon]

Sexual assault accusations don't destroy men's reputations.

What the fuck is this bullshit? Of course it does.

 

[cleveridea]

Can someone explain what exactly mods are in terms of being employees? Are they paid? Do they profit share etc? Before this whole stuff happened it sounded like they were enthusiastic members who devoted more of their lives than regular posters but they come across as employees.

Regarding OT, I think its a shame there couldnt at last have been an OT for neutral topics - like say a Pixel 2 XL screen quality thread. In other words topics that at least were intended for non political type discussions.

 

[Nevadatan]

Uh this thread is like a graveyard. so many banned people.

Anyway, as a girl, honestly i couldn't care any less of all this "#metoo" tomfoolery, it started as something good for awareness but ended becoming deranged and pointless, i do think we need to be more critical and moderated before jumping into conclusions whenever any person is declared a molester or abuser. its real easy to just basis-less call anyone a rapist and get away with it.


im glad we are back and with a statement no less, but i do not believe the "maintenance" downtime. seems way too convenient. of course that doesn't mean my truth is absolute and that there was not a maintenance scheduled. but as for myself i dont believe in that.


now, whoever is in control of the Titanfall GAF Network. please change the callsign back.

 

[Speevy]

I've been banned about 15 times during my run of this site, and I have no interest in coming in here to make a statement about Tyler Malka. My interest in this site has nothing to do with Tyler Malka. I don't even know whether the terrible allegations against him are true.

However, what I will say is true. I joined this forum in 2004 after I more or less stopped posting at TeamXbox. These forums always seemed more intelligent and had more content. I could get more information, more news, more numbers, more screenshots, more videos, and in general more intelligent discourse. Teamxbox turned into a cesspool of l33tspe@k, system bashing, and bot posts, and Neogaf I felt was diffferent.

I never really minded the heavy-handed progressive stance people took, because my mother always taught me to be kind to those who are different than you. I'm a white boy from the south. I have learned from this forum that it is better to err on the side of the little guy.

What bothers me here is that I've seen poster after poster who made Neogaf what I love take a voluntary ban. For years, they (not Evilore) posted the best stuff here, and they've thrown down their memberships. They could be right and even if they're wrong, they have a right to that choice, but I do know this. You can't have the best team without the best players.

Who will post the juiciest video game news if no one wants to be associated with Neogaf? Certainly not the best insider?

Who will talk about their new game if no video game developer wants to be associated with Neogaf?

Neogaf is great because it was supposed to be laser-focused on what matters (games and good discussion), while at the same time huge and influential in the industry.

I've tried to put myself in the shoes of someone who ran a site like this with this kind of stigma hanging over my head, and I just wonder how I'd proceed.

I guess I'm posting all this to say thank you to Neogaf for all the great posts. Tyler Malka is absolutely right. I don't really owe him anything.

 

[BibiMaghoo]

Can someone explain what exactly mods are in terms of being employees? Are they paid? Do they profit share etc? Before this whole stuff happened it sounded like they were enthusiastic members who devoted more of their lives than regular posters but they come across as employees.

A mod has told me past they are not paid a penny, but idk if that is true obviously. I have no reason to believe it is not.

 

[Symphonia]

In this instance, sexual misconduct=/=sexual assault.

I’m taking into account other instances. Sexual assault is sexual assault. I’m trying my best not to take sides as there is very little proof from either party to back up their side of the story. Until then, I’m just going to try and enjoy the usual discussion.

 

[cleveridea]

A mod has told me past they are not paid a penny, but idk if that is true obviously. I have no reason to believe it is not.

Ah ok thanks, that's the impression I got

 

[snausagesUK]

Can someone explain what exactly mods are in terms of being employees? Are they paid? Do they profit share etc? Before this whole stuff happened it sounded like they were enthusiastic members who devoted more of their lives than regular posters but they come across as employees.

Regarding OT, I think its a shame there couldnt at last have been an OT for neutral topics - like say a Pixel 2 XL screen quality thread. In other words topics that at least were intended for non political type discussions.

Unpaid volunteers I believe.

 

[Åesop]

Can people stop asking for bans. Just gtfo and dont come back, you don't have to get banned to leave this site..

 

[Alienfan]

Shifting the blame again, like any GAF controversy. Nothing wrong with defending yourself, but pulling the mental illness card, the victim blaming and your past public views of consent and attitude (this also isn't the first allegation) - I really don't think you deserve the benefit of the doubt sorry. And then to pull OT, communities compromised of large mental health, PoC and LGBT sections (that have literally saved lives). There's nothing to celebrate here, how you've delt with the situation is truly abhorrent.

You can't prove sexual assault guys, so I'm not sure why that's even being debated. But you sure as hell can handle it better than this crap

 

[Corpsepyre]

Oh well, what really bums me out is the 80s cyberpunk/synthwave community is gone. Really hope it was salvaged in some shape or form. Got to know several good acts from there.

Guessing OT/Community will be back up soon, and we can focus on entertainment when it does.

 

[PhilipDoesMatter]

I am glad we are back! Missed ya all

 

[SOR5]

The allegations here are serious

I dont know anything about the owner of the site, just like I don't know anything about Naughty Dog except that there's serious allegations, not entirely proven but still extremely serious

I don't really know how to react

 

[Monocle]

Plenty of people on this site and elsewhere are flaunting an unseemly side of themselves by crowing over NeoGAF's downfall and claiming this forum never offered anything of value in the first place. Well, I guess they can speak for themselves.

GAFers have introduced me to a massive array of books, movies, shows, games, music, products, and ideas that have changed my life for the better. I've had the great pleasure to participate in OTs for some of my favorite shows, exchanging impressions with awesome, passionate, funny, insightful people week after week. I've been able to express my appreciation for some of my favorite games in the presence of industry vets who have actually worked on them. I've shared the delight and excitement of E3, and game releases dating back to Super Smash Bros. Brawl, with thousands of others. I've have rich discussions on philosophy, science, movies, learning how to draw, and so many other interesting and worthy topics with people who put my own knowledge to shame.

So in fact, NeoGAF offers real value to a very wide range of enthusiasts. To label this place as nothing but a haven for left-wingers, Playstation fanboys, or whoever else—or to say this whole place is tainted by the allegations against its owner—is to throw a hell of a lot of babies out with the bathwater. This has been my favorite forum for talking about my passions. I hope that if NeoGAF survives the present turmoil, it will carry forward the best elements of the community we've built here.

 

[cand]

Sorry. I'm not trying to shit up the place even further, but I'd rather have my account removed.

I'd close it myself, but I'm not sure if that's possible.

Same here. Please remove my account too.

 

[Syder]

Hey Evilore,

I read a sites article about the allegation and commented exactly this below on their website which became the best comment via votes.


Am I the only one that finds it strange how Leupp says he creeped her out by gettin in the shower without her consent but went on to have a physical relationship with him? Which means 'sexual' relationship.

Who in their right mind would go on to have a sexual relationship with someone they thought was a creep?

Something doesn't smell right about any of what she's said.

We don't need anymore victim blaming. There's been enough already.

 

[Officerrob]

Can people stop asking for bans. Just gtfo and dont come back, you don't have to get banned to leave this site..

Are you making the rules around here now? Can't tell who's a mod around here anymore...

 

[Cryxo93]

Ban me. I no longer want a part of this place. And good luck. You’re going to need it following this absolute shitshow.