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The vast majority of DX12 titles in 2015/2016 are partnering with AMD
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And Intel will probably top the charts.
It doesn't, but Steam Survey is not representative of market share. More specifically, the Steam Survey should not be used as a measure of market share. Hell, it doesn't even claim to do so.
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey?platform=pc
EDIT: Top-left chart.
LicenceToK1ll
Member
Switched my 280x for a 970 might be a bad choice in the end given how Nvidia cards age. Needed the hdmi 2.0 so no regrets.
Yeah I'm happy for AMD, they need some more success to push nvidia. But I'll stick with my 980 Ti for now and wait for real benchmarks on these DX12 games.
Also, no crashes or bugs for me yet on W10 gaming.
Well if we're strictly focusing on gamers then a chart with intel on top wouldnt be all that useful unless you also wanna count grand parents playing yahoo checkers.
And of course, given that Intel just reached XBone GPU levels in their newest CPUs, soon it will be Wintel world.
Thats one quarter where Nvidia is up against 2+ year old cards. Im not expecting any miracles from Fury and the rebadges but it'll probably pick up for AMD next quarter.
Erin S Kittens
Member
Should I be paranoid about the GPU in my Alienware Alpha being unable to cope with upcoming DX12 games?
Alienware is about as futureproof as methane is fireproof.
Sorry for your problems, but no problem here, and I think that a good experience is worth as much as a bad experience until we have real numbers.
General Lee
Member
I truly hope AMD will get an advantage with the new DX12 games, they surely need it at this point. That said, I doubt we'll see major differences in the early DX12 games. They're probably just DX11 titles ported over with little to no difference in features or performance.
The full effect of DX12 won't be seen until game devs ditch DX11 support altogether. But given W10 and the widespread support for DX12 with the current cards, the transition should be much faster than what it was with DX11. I think Johan Andersson was hoping to skip DX11 by the end of next year, but that's probably not going to happen.
The further we go this gen, the more I expect multiplats to extract performance out of stuff like Asynchronous Shaders and other GCN optimizations, which should help AMD. It'll be interesting to see how all of this will pan out at 14 nm.
I'm hearing Pascal is just an iterative step over Maxwell in terms of the core architecture, so it might be a problem for Nvidia if AS performance is bad there too. You gotta remember the designs take years to do and you just don't go about changing them willy nilly. Nvidia will have their hands full with HBM2 and the new process node without adding significant architecture changes to the mix.
I'm most interested about DX: Mankind Divided, and ROTTR pc port that's likely to have DX12 too with possibly heavy use of AS. It's also interesting to see how DX12 will work with the next Total War title, given it's a game similar to Ashes of the Singularity with thousands of units and is heavily CPU bound usually.
The full effect of DX12 won't be seen until game devs ditch DX11 support altogether. But given W10 and the widespread support for DX12 with the current cards, the transition should be much faster than what it was with DX11. I think Johan Andersson was hoping to skip DX11 by the end of next year, but that's probably not going to happen.
The further we go this gen, the more I expect multiplats to extract performance out of stuff like Asynchronous Shaders and other GCN optimizations, which should help AMD. It'll be interesting to see how all of this will pan out at 14 nm.
I'm hearing Pascal is just an iterative step over Maxwell in terms of the core architecture, so it might be a problem for Nvidia if AS performance is bad there too. You gotta remember the designs take years to do and you just don't go about changing them willy nilly. Nvidia will have their hands full with HBM2 and the new process node without adding significant architecture changes to the mix.
I'm most interested about DX: Mankind Divided, and ROTTR pc port that's likely to have DX12 too with possibly heavy use of AS. It's also interesting to see how DX12 will work with the next Total War title, given it's a game similar to Ashes of the Singularity with thousands of units and is heavily CPU bound usually.
I recently upgraded from a 7850 to a 970. Kind of worried I'm not very future proofed by switching...
Oh well, such is the life we choose.
GatticusFinch
Member
The only problem here is that Nvidia cards roflstomp AMDs offerings in pure performance, so whatever coding benefit AMD's PR team claims they have is going to likely be meaningless.
Brought to you by the same people who claimed Fury X is an overlocker's dream and a Titan killer, so maybe don't trust a word they say.
Brought to you by the same people who claimed Fury X is an overlocker's dream and a Titan killer, so maybe don't trust a word they say.
The market needs strong competition but unfortunately these words come from AMD which is on the brink of dying in the GPU market, words are pretty much the only option they have to fight with right now. Also theory and practise (and pr speak vs real world practical numbers) are different things entirely. Partnering doesn`t mean much right now, if we think anything will change for the consumer during the next 1-2 years we may probably be gullible as usual.
The Dear Leader
Banned
I'd be nice to see AMD get some more market share, even things out with Nvidia and bring some real competition to the GPU market. I hope this works out for them and they sell some cards, especially if they really thought that far ahead to with GCN they deserve a win in my opinion.
This is wrong.
Nvidias driver support under Windows 10 also has been crap lately.
This is the main reason I'm waiting to dump my 290x CF for 980 TI sli setup. I really want hdmi 2.0 so I can game on my 65 inch 4k Samsung. I still can't believe AMD doesn't have hdmi 2.0 on any of their cards. Even if by some weird chance I wanted to go AMD again (no way in hell) I still wouldn't be able to do it.
Shouldn`t a minimum effort in a discussion where one is refuting something be to post WHY it is wrong..
There was about as much effort in providing evidence in the initial statement.
You know, I expected a bit more coming into this thread than an AMD marketing statement.
There was an issue with shadowplay that happened to me, it got patched ~1 week after the WIndows 10 release though.
Frank Jaeger
Member
Glad I'm poor and didn't get to save for the 970 before all this blew up...
I still have a 560 Ti FML
AMD R9 390 and GTX970 trade blows being at the same price, usually having the 390 a slight lead. So no, there's no better performance at the same cost.
Source: I researched a lot this last week since I just bough a new PC.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Why? AMD has been making promises they never keep for years now. You should be used to it by now after a decade of this.
Oh yeah that really helps....
I responded to the last person with an empty statement, doesnt mean I side with similar type post from another angle
What`s more interesting to read, well thought out opinions around facts, or baseless conjectures stemming from bizarre brand loyalty
Turin Turambar
Member
Well, I would prefer more concrete data than "the vast majority of dx12 titles!".
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
A Neogaf thread of compute enabled games would be good and the benefits it's brining. I know of one upcoming PS4 game built using compute; Tomorrow Children with it's gorgeous lighting.
Dictator93
Member
An AMD employee on reddit in a thread discrediting the competitors performance regarding a hardware specific / optional implementation of DX12 is used as the basis for a thread reportedly espousing "facts".
Yikes.
Yikes.
There are many, many games using GPU compute. Since 2009 on PC.
Q
Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
When ur latest card doesnt have a dvi port why the fuck would i buy it when thats what i use
Dictator93
Member
Truform will change the way games look.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Good for AMD. They were in the thick of this shift change and have nvidia beat on this for now.
Yup. With all this hoopla about Nvidia's issues with async compute (which they are supposedly rectifying in a driver update) the only thing I'm worried about is my GTX 980 Ti resale value. Got rid of my two 970s for roughly what I paid for them and hope to keep the 980 Ti at least until Nvidia comes out with a card that gives a significant performance boost. I'm expecting that to be whatever they release in 2017 but if this whole async thing turns out to actually be a real issue then I'll be pissed that my top end card isn't so top after all.
I'm all for competition as it means better and cheaper graphics cards for us consumers but I'm still unlikely to go AMD. I've got a G-Sync display and in general I've had a really good run with Nvidia. No major problems with cards or drivers.
In a DX11 world maybe.