RadixNegative2
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Awesome! I would have easily payed $60 for this.
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The Witness price revealed ($39.99 / 36.99)
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Spirit of Jazz
Banned
That's about half of what Sony charge for retail releases on PSN so I don't see why it's a huge issue.
Ah, I don't resell my games. I can see that being a decent argument.
Are you fucking joking? He made a claim that Talos had a bigger budget than The Witness, so I asked for proof.
Also it is hardly passive aggressive to say that I doubt he has any when a lot of developers do not release their actual budgets.
Curious to see how this performs. I was down for day 1 regardless of the cost.
At its announce I just assumed it would fall in line with the $20 tier of games. Glad to hear there's more to it, and I hope it can justify the 40 price.
I feel like the market has placed a stigma on 40 dollar games in both the AAA and indie realm. Stuff like Ratchet and Clank, Tearaway Unfolded, Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time, and Puppeteer are seen as lesser games, yet they are some of my favorites from the last few years. In the indie market, where people get games for dollars and cents, 40 bucks is outrageous. I'm all for a wider variety of options, especially if it means more robust indie games.
At its announce I just assumed it would fall in line with the $20 tier of games. Glad to hear there's more to it, and I hope it can justify the 40 price.
I feel like the market has placed a stigma on 40 dollar games in both the AAA and indie realm. Stuff like Ratchet and Clank, Tearaway Unfolded, Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time, and Puppeteer are seen as lesser games, yet they are some of my favorites from the last few years. In the indie market, where people get games for dollars and cents, 40 bucks is outrageous. I'm all for a wider variety of options, especially if it means more robust indie games.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
I think what this should teach developers is that you really should try to create a pricing narrative around your game. Even if you don't want to pin down an exact price until close to launch, you want people to think "This is an amazing full-featured content-rich game that I'm getting for only $40; that's $20 less than most games!" and not "Man, this indie game is like 2-3 times as expensive as other indie games."
You need to connect the dots for people. It's not enough to show that your game is no small indie game. You need to let people know that they're not going to get an amazing "$60" game for $15; they're going to get an amazing "$60" game for $40.
You need to connect the dots for people. It's not enough to show that your game is no small indie game. You need to let people know that they're not going to get an amazing "$60" game for $15; they're going to get an amazing "$60" game for $40.
EatinOlives
Member
What's funny is that a lot of people buy retail full-priced games that have way less content.
Hell, if a retail game comes out at $40 people automatically think something is wrong with it. I remember in '08 when Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts was reported to be $40 and people were like "omg this must mean MS has no confidence in this game!!!"
Can't wait for the reactions for No Man's Sky inevitable $40-$60 price announcement. I expect tons of "WHAT! How dare they! It's just a bunch of algorithms, it's not like they made everything by hand! A bunch of algorithms is worth $20 tops!"
TimeEffect
Member
Dont mind the price at all
Game must be big. Another great game at that price:
Talos Principle. Worth every penny
Game must be big. Another great game at that price:
Talos Principle. Worth every penny
No, I have never sold any game on my ~25 years of gaming.
Simply I don't pay that amount for a game that it's not in my most wanted list if I can't touch it.
More_Badass
Member
Oh, misunderstood your post. Thought that comment was regarding Blow and his budget
GenericJoe
Member
I'd gladly pay $40 for a physical release, but $40 for a game I can't lend or sell is more than I'm comfortable with. And yes, the ability to lend and sell a game adds value, even if the digital only crowd is unable to wrap their heads around the concept.
If there was a set date for a physical release then I'd just wait for that, but it sounds like there aren't any concrete plans at the moment, just that they want to have a disc version eventually.
I guess I'll wait and see the feedback the game gets. I wanted to go into this game as blind as possible, but if I'm going to spend $40 for a digital game, I need to know in advance if I'm going to enjoy it.
If there was a set date for a physical release then I'd just wait for that, but it sounds like there aren't any concrete plans at the moment, just that they want to have a disc version eventually.
I guess I'll wait and see the feedback the game gets. I wanted to go into this game as blind as possible, but if I'm going to spend $40 for a digital game, I need to know in advance if I'm going to enjoy it.
InsaneTiger
Member
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Especially if they're stood akimbo or quaffing mead.
WhateverItTakes
Banned
Willing to give Blow a shot on this one. Plus it's not like there's any other releases to compete with for a while, so this so keep me going til spring.
giancarlo123x
Banned
There were major complaints with this.I see more complaints about this than there was about this...
Some of you are weird.
That's fine.
LifeBrandRobot
Member
It could use a physical release for that price.
preach
it is an interesting case study, for sure. pricing and perception go hand in hand for anything people deem "indie" games.
wait wat
Ahh. Yeah it was about Loch Doun's idiotic post.
StrawberryJam
Member
That's fair enough. Are they talking about a physical release?
paperspace
Member
Will you make a thread?
blackMamba1187
Member
$40 seems like good value to me. Been tearing through my backlog, though, so the Witness will probably have to wait a bit.
Oh. Haha.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Yeah I'm kind of expecting $60 for NMS. But would be pleased with $50.
pasta_fire
Banned
I mean, have you played the game? How do you know it's 'worth the money'? Grow up.
Alex Stroud
Banned
Looking forward to its eventual halving in price around e3, then.
TimeEffect
Member
Also, you americans dont get to complain
Canadians get to cry first T_T
Canadians get to cry first T_T
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Word always found in fantasy novels. You don't expect to see 'guffawing' on a forum.
Coffee Dog
Banned
This seems fair. I personally won't play it at launch for that price because I don't have that much faith in john blow, but it seems to be a game with a lot in it.
Omnistalgic
Member
Man, y'all niggaz is cheap...
What if this turns out to be another Jouney? No faith in blow even after braid?
I dunno, I thought Braid was pretty amazing..
What if this turns out to be another Jouney? No faith in blow even after braid?
I dunno, I thought Braid was pretty amazing..
Cert.in.Death
Member
More than expected, but can't say it's unwarranted.
I'll need some reviews first to cement my purchase decision.
I'll need some reviews first to cement my purchase decision.
InsaneTiger
Member
But what if NMS was digital only as well? It comes from an indie developer. What if they came out and said $60 digital only? GAF would shit the bed it has already shat in several times before.
The problem is people expect indie devs to price their lower than the normal $60.
Acceptable price ranges for games (according to NeoGAF)
Mobile: Free to $0.99
Indie: $0.99 to $20
AAA: $60 to whatever premium, collector's, limited, super edition price
That's fine.
People with a limited budget aren't entitled to play every game that comes out, especially not when they have arbitrary expectations about what a game "should" cost because of the method in which the bits make their way from the developer to their console.
Your need or desire to significantly limit your personal gaming budget means jack when it comes to a developer choosing to price their game in a way that seems fair to them based on what they think the game offers. Maybe they're wrong, but probably not.
I'm sure Blow and his team are well aware that a $40 price point will mean fewer people being able to purchase the game. They probably also expect that the higher price will offset the lower number of customers enough to be worth it.
And even if not enough people buy it to be worth it from the outset, I bet they're also smart enough to know that by not devaluing their work right from the beginning, they build in more longevity for a long tail of sales through future discounts that make the game more affordable for people who have more limited budgets.
Didn't we already go through that and concluded it was going to be 60?
there is a huge difference between "i don't want to spend $40 of my gaming budget on this at launch" vs. "this game isn't worth $40 because it's indie/digital/whatever"
damn dnd podcasts over my lunch break got me talkin crazy
yup
Braid was a real game changer, for sure. the guy deserves some faith.
damn dnd podcasts over my lunch break got me talkin crazy
yup
Braid was a real game changer, for sure. the guy deserves some faith.
I fully expect NMS to be $60.
I still won't pay more than $20 for it, just like for The Witness.
I see no reason to spend that much money, when I can play the same game a few months later at a fraction of the price. It will still have 600+ puzzles in April or August.
What I have seen so far from the game are just those line puzzles and variations of that. Until I'm seeing something beyond that I'm not ready to hand over $40
Oh, so it was actually $20. Sure was a gutsy move by Blow.