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This book is like the Hunger Games, if the Hunger Games was super racist.
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KO Traveling Hobo
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...is that a mullet?
EmCeeGramr
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i can't wait for eden to become a pearl cat person and then all the other coal cat people are astounded by how quickly she masters all of their traditions and then she teaches the snarling animalistic black people how racism is wrong because fuck this earth forever
Haha the writing is almost as offensively bad as the concept itself. Like, here's a random sentence:
How do I introduce all these events??? Uhh okay let me just work them all into one sentence and hope no one notices. I'm such a pearl of a writer!
tmarques said:
This is the future where they have UNDERGROUND HOVERCRAFTS, MATE-RATES, and HOLOGRAM LIFE-BANDS WHICH LET YOU TRAVEL ANYWHERE IN THE PAST BUT ONLY WITHIN YOUR MIND, so I'm assuming blackface technology has gotten more advanced as well. Maybe they have special nanobot creams that make your face darker and your lips bigger, so that you can truly look like one of them.
That's no beast, that's a sculpt of Ice T
kOsmikcoffee
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This book looks fucking amazing.
EmCeeGramr
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So wait - they have all of this, but they can't come up with something to increase melanin production or block UV radiation? Oh, what am I saying. The Heat probably came so fast that all the rich white people interested in not dying would have instantly lost power, and the power hungry coal regime that rose from the ashes had it in their best interests not to develop it.
Vermillion
Banned
This is incredible.
I love it all.
I love it all.
mugshot cuba gooding jr from the future, is that you?
Trying to make sense out of this EmCee is like trying to make sense out of Highlander 2
Apparently this is why the main guy becomes half-jaguar.
The scientists are experimenting with jaguars for some reason, to help ~pearls~ from dying in the sun, and then everything explodes and the main guy becomes a half-cat.
Yeah.
victreeb3l
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holy shit ECG, that last post was incredible :lol
what a stupid concept for a book.
what a stupid concept for a book.
EmCeeGramr
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They say that explaining your self-explanatory metaphors is insulting and clumsy. This same warning may apply to handling race in a stupid fashion, which is another kind of careless insult.
In the writing "biz" (business) this is what we call a simile. Eden thinks about a stone in a dark cave, because she's a precious stone in the midst of darkness (black people [I shouldn't write things]).
Then her mother had pointed to a death's head, then to a plaque that read "MEMENTO MORI," then to a tombstone, then said You will die. The message was clear, but in case you didn't understand we should also explain that Pearls were afraid of this, because they were white and people were racist against them.
I'm imagining all the white people waking up and walking outside one day, and then 90% of them just suddenly drop dead while the evil black gangsters of Los Angeles laugh maniacally. That would be way too subtle for this book, though, so I'm imagining she did something like "the black people march the white people to the death camps, and by that I mean force them to go outside to the local Giant." I hope in the sequel Eden or whatever her name is discovers evidence of the secret White Holocaust perpetuated by Emperor Barry H. Obama.
Leeness said:
So wait, is this her father's GRAND EXPERIMENT that she talks about? Jaguars?
I'm pretty sure, yes.
EmCeeGramr
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the pdf disallows copy and paste and so i'm not gonna retype this last part but apparently the heroine's father was so smart on intelligence tests that they made him the head scientist and got her a job as a researcher too. and she's one of only three people to understand how his genius work will save the planet.
to recap: her dad "despite" being white got a job as boss over all the black people because of his natural intelligence, and his daughter got a job out of nepotism but everyone looks at her funny. even in the dystopian racist nightmare the white heroine still benefits from privilege and will save the world
to recap: her dad "despite" being white got a job as boss over all the black people because of his natural intelligence, and his daughter got a job out of nepotism but everyone looks at her funny. even in the dystopian racist nightmare the white heroine still benefits from privilege and will save the world
Alligatorjandro
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pearls be crazy
Everybody has an open chance to broach subjects in the way of their choosing, but the manner in which this is framed screams racism, either consciously or subconsciously.
It turns out that a person's skin color is so ingrained into their psyche that when radiation affects survival rates on the basis of melanin, all of society has to be re-purposed to adapt for when the colored folks gain power.
Realistically, the fairer skinned ones would likely be in places of higher position and power even though it may be lethal to be one. The fact that solar radiation still affects people with higher levels of melanin effectively emphasizes a society where people would try to shun the sun and order the social strata accordingly; the colored folk being tasked with outdoor labor while the fairer skins get tasked with indoor labor. If the economy is anything like ours now, it would then preference white color jobs over blue collar ones in terms of pay.
Book should be popular with the Stormfront folk though since it seems like it preys on their fears and fantasies.
It turns out that a person's skin color is so ingrained into their psyche that when radiation affects survival rates on the basis of melanin, all of society has to be re-purposed to adapt for when the colored folks gain power.
Realistically, the fairer skinned ones would likely be in places of higher position and power even though it may be lethal to be one. The fact that solar radiation still affects people with higher levels of melanin effectively emphasizes a society where people would try to shun the sun and order the social strata accordingly; the colored folk being tasked with outdoor labor while the fairer skins get tasked with indoor labor. If the economy is anything like ours now, it would then preference white color jobs over blue collar ones in terms of pay.
Book should be popular with the Stormfront folk though since it seems like it preys on their fears and fantasies.
Dreams-Visions
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For seriously.
Yeah, that was pretty ridiculous to me. I also want to point out how terrible I think it is for the driving force behind a heroine of a YA novel's actions to be, quite literally, GETTING FUCKED. I mean, what? She sets out on a quest to make black men want to fuck her? Is this the kind of stuff that young women like to read? Because that was like, the goal in Twilight, too, wasn't it? When I was a kid, the hero's goal was usually finding his destiny or learning the value of respect and stuff. If he got laid on the way, that was cool, too, but it wasn't usually his MAIN GOAL.
Maybe I'm out of hand here, but it simply seems like the preposterous icing on a cake that's already too hard to swallow.
According to the Oh No They Didn't comments, the rest of the book plays out like this (spoiler-tagged so we can all enjoy the wonderful color of coal):
I still really want to read this trainwreck. It sounds so awful.
The coal guy she thinks loves her is in fact a terrorist, and organizes an attempt to blow up her father's lab. So then the rich guy who's funding the experiments has the dad inject him with the cure serum stuff, which is how he becomes a Beast Man, and then he and the main white chick run away to the rain forest together and eventually stop hating each other. I think this is when she rides him. Some people who speak Spanish show up? So I guess living outside isn't as deadly as everyone thinks?
It turns out the main girl looks like beast-man's dead wife, who he'd had an albino baby with. Man and woman fall in love, shocker, and the albino baby winds up injected with jaguar-snake-bird DNA too to make it more immunity resistant. And then the book ends with the main girl deciding to go furry too.
It turns out the main girl looks like beast-man's dead wife, who he'd had an albino baby with. Man and woman fall in love, shocker, and the albino baby winds up injected with jaguar-snake-bird DNA too to make it more immunity resistant. And then the book ends with the main girl deciding to go furry too.
I still really want to read this trainwreck. It sounds so awful.
ViewtifulJC is BlackGAF, iirc.
I been thinking of going a blog titled "You must not have minority friends or coworkers" .
Why are these girls all lined up outside a bookstore at 11PM? It's not the latest Harry Potter or Twilight novel; it's a new bestseller for young adults that has tongues wagging over its controversial use of race.
In "Save the Pearls" from Victoria Foyt, a far flung future sees a society in which ultraviolet radiation from the destruction of the ozone layer causes darker skinned peoples to be healthier and placed in positions of power. Lighter skinned peoples are lower on the social rungs, with whites, or "pearls," on the bottom. Those who cannot have children by the age of 22 are cut off from government services, with "coals" (or blacks) having the highest rate of reproduction and "pearls" at the bottom. Foyt maintains the premise merely turns the table on standard concepts of racism. Critics believe that it's subverting young minds.
"This is astonishing," says Miranda Harper, a mother of 3 who has come to protest the book opening. Harper, who is black, says that the book is the latest incarnation of old racist ideas. "It's just miscegenation fears all over again."
Many readers don't agree.
"I think this book is, like, a real good look at what, like, things are actually happening and going to happen," said one 16 year old girl who refused to be named. "Like, we have a black president, y'know? So it's not like things are bad for black people. And Russel is the only black guy in our class but all the other girls want to go out with him because he's really funny, like, Mellisa says she made out with him last week."
"Skank," she added.
"I think the political correctness police are afraid that their double standards are being exposed. They're sexualizing our children and saying that blacks are sexier," said one middle aged man who enjoys young adult novels. "When Eden [the protagonist] and Bramford [her black boyfriend] engage in biblical relations... It... it really... It makes you think. Excuse me."
The debate has gone beyond the bookstore and to a national stage.
"We could not believe the content of the book," said Shelinda McCormick of the Southern Poverty Law Center. McCormick, who is black, went on to say, "Young adult fiction is one of the fastest growing areas of modern literature. The ideas we pass onto our next generation are important. If we tell them that blacks are 'beast like,' then will it be any surprise if they engage in racist thought later in life?"
Some public figures are defending the book however. Former Governor Sarah Palin tweeted a picture of her and her husband Todd holding newly purchased copies of the book. Included with the picture was the message, "you go sister victoria showing the sex/racist lib media whos boss. loved romance scnes"
Palin's tweet sparked a firestorm of controversy, with celebrities both condemning and praising the former VP candidate.
"yo sarah i loved that part too. lets start a book club to discuss it," responded Glen Rice in a reply tweet. Rice, who is black, is a former NBA star.
At broadcast time, Sand Dollar Press, the book's publisher, refused to comment.
For NBC, this is Anne Curry.
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Oh shit, suddenly it all makes sense!
CrushDance
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Hahahahahahahahahahaha! WOW.
I'm all for people turning the tables on how things really are in reality. That's cool and I believe it'is important in helping others see how bad things could be for them. But this turns the table over and snaps it in two. Now white people are the ones suffering and feeling oppression. Okay, cool. It's a good mental exercise. But instead of black people simply being the oppressors and of privilege. Their "Jungle" characteristics are played up and they are seen as beastly and primal in the men, and voluptuous and slutty in the women. I'm not sure if she just failed at writing or if she even realizes what she's doing. Very few black people view white people as anything other than human or as being worse/better than any other group of people.
Yet here it is clear that even when black people are "superior". They are still inferior intellectually and overall as human. They are something less evolved and less advanced.
I'm writing something "similar" to this based on my own life experiences, but this just makes my jaw hit the floor in its absurdity and failure to view black people as also human. It seems like she had good intentions, but the imagery is downright archaic and distasteful. It's like if someone wrote a book about gay people being the majority(I don't even) and painted gay people as overly promiscuous, rapists and all that bullshit. Failing to recognize that at their core, gay people are also human and have all the same problems. It's ridiculous.
I'm all for people turning the tables on how things really are in reality. That's cool and I believe it'is important in helping others see how bad things could be for them. But this turns the table over and snaps it in two. Now white people are the ones suffering and feeling oppression. Okay, cool. It's a good mental exercise. But instead of black people simply being the oppressors and of privilege. Their "Jungle" characteristics are played up and they are seen as beastly and primal in the men, and voluptuous and slutty in the women. I'm not sure if she just failed at writing or if she even realizes what she's doing. Very few black people view white people as anything other than human or as being worse/better than any other group of people.
Yet here it is clear that even when black people are "superior". They are still inferior intellectually and overall as human. They are something less evolved and less advanced.
I'm writing something "similar" to this based on my own life experiences, but this just makes my jaw hit the floor in its absurdity and failure to view black people as also human. It seems like she had good intentions, but the imagery is downright archaic and distasteful. It's like if someone wrote a book about gay people being the majority(I don't even) and painted gay people as overly promiscuous, rapists and all that bullshit. Failing to recognize that at their core, gay people are also human and have all the same problems. It's ridiculous.
I was thinking the exact same thing hahaha
That's a metaphor, fool. There ain't no "like" or "as" up in this biatch. What are you, some kind of COTTON?!
Sutton Dagger
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The scary thing is, after the success of Twilight and more recently '50 Shades', this could potentially be a success.
MWS Natural
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Messofanego
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No words. Just none.
In the future, even being a furry is preferable to being dark skinned...
Ain't this a....
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Jesus Christ.
GraveHorizon
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I stopped reading at
terrorist
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
This is so ridiculous in it's offensiveness it's hard to even get legitimately upset..
Victoria Foyt is an embarrassment of the highest magnitude.
Man, that post is devastating. That girl went IN. So many great points...
Victoria Foyt is an embarrassment of the highest magnitude.
At least he attempted to break the stereotype
or ok, maybe just kinda-sorta break it
While Static has an awesome home life and is generally awesome all up, this actually mixes him with another weird stereotype
This... The book and everything coming out of the author's mouth is such a clusterfuck of horrible nonsense. I mean--
oh
my
GOD
My first thought was Chris Bosh
first sentence of video description said:
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS WOMANfrom the website said:
I am not no damn coal >:|
Though I do like the prospect of my mate rate being in the 90s
This books reeks of white victimism, but if they would have liked to approach the whole "racism is a universal issue and it could encompass races other than black" angle they could have looked at, say, the Mugabe's Zimbawe (colonial backslash is a b*tch) rather than the freaking Hunger Games. It seems that the author lacks the chops, sensibility and culture necessary to tackle such an issue.
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