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Ubi: NX will "recapture lapsed Wii players," Nintendo "addressing the family market"
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GhostTrick
Banned
It's not done and done. Even with mass produced components, gimmick is still bringing the price up, unless it's something relative. And for the record, no, I'm not against gimmick at all if they make it worthwile.
But let's be honest: The gamepad's only use was to make Wii U crazily underpowered and overpriced.
So... no Gamecube, no Wii, no GBA, no NDS, no 3DS ? Wow. By the way, none of these consoles were plagued by the "family stuff you don't want to be part of".
Just Dance now has a mobile companion app. JD2016 can be played on Wii U without a Wiimote.
friskykillface
Banned
eh, not even buying NX at launch(will buy on black friday, dem bundles), learned my lesson with wii u but I kinda figured they would try this with NX
waggle x pro controller combo probably
waggle x pro controller combo probably
tiebreaker
Member
NX is a smartphone??
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Yea, not a good sign.
Ubisoft, only 3rd party to be interested and has knowledge of the NX.
Sounds like the Wii and Wii u.
Hopefully i'm wrong.
Ubisoft, only 3rd party to be interested and has knowledge of the NX.
Sounds like the Wii and Wii u.
Hopefully i'm wrong.
LastOne2100
Member
Yeah, I am very concerned if Nintendo is trying to catch lightning in a bottle again (Wii). I can't see any new gimmick capturing so many people's interest as that one did - and even still, it was pretty fleeting. Software attach rates were nowhere near the hardware numbers and the console ended with a thud.
That casual crowd now is even harder to target, as they have way more free games on mobile devices now. Why spend $300 on a dedicated gaming console?
That casual crowd now is even harder to target, as they have way more free games on mobile devices now. Why spend $300 on a dedicated gaming console?
Can you feel it?
Is that a leaked NX controller pic?
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Surely the Wii remotes aren't coming back again right..right?
Chronospherics
Member
In what way?
Link is right handed in the demo, I thought people were suggesting that was because the game is being built with motion controls as a possibility too?
m.i.s.
Banned
This is absolutely the market Nintendo must address.
Like the Wii, Nintendo must address the casual, enthusisast, lapsed, family, female and children market that those other two manufacturer's do not cater to.
Produce a console that is so cheap, that the casual and "hardcore" cannot pass up - if only for the Nintendo games they can't get elsewhere.
Like the Wii, Nintendo must address the casual, enthusisast, lapsed, family, female and children market that those other two manufacturer's do not cater to.
Produce a console that is so cheap, that the casual and "hardcore" cannot pass up - if only for the Nintendo games they can't get elsewhere.
Corronchilejano
Member
I'm all for it. The Wii was the most fun I've had with a console. I hope they do more coop games like Galaxy 2.
Refreshment.01
Member
Funny enough, if you watch Breath of the Wild, it features the most boring, downright safe traditional interface i' ve seen from Nintendo in the last years.
It is giving the impression they are doing that for the NX sake.
I doubt it.
I see it as 'please be excited for our next gimmick, aimed at bringing grandma back to Nintendo!'
In other words: There is reason to be concerned about whatever gimmicky control scheme they may have planned for the NX.
It was supposed to appeal to both, casual and core gamers.
Can you blame them? Nintendo hasn't done much since the wii to inspire confidence that they will do right by its fans and their expectations. Nintendo knows that no matter what, their hardcore fans will suck it up and buy their console for their great games and will keep chasing the wii crowd.
Not the third party support most people here would care about
Those markets are already catered to on mobile and PC though.
Nah, he is talking about the family market or the broader market compared to WiiU's niche of nintendo faithfuls.
Square Enix has announced DQX and XI for NX. Other third parties definitely know about it and probably have at least some software planned. Considering we know next to nothing about the system it's still a bit early for concern.
Actually a lineup of Zelda, Dragon Quest and Just Dance is relatively core-oriented!
Dark Cloud
Member
I always thought the NX was going to be a slightly stronger Wii U at a cheap price with a new gimmick. And it would have a SCD to boost power for hardcore gamers.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
What do you guys expect the producer of Just Dance to say?
Producer of successful family/casual market series talks about how an upcoming system will work for their market. This is non-news.
Producer of successful family/casual market series talks about how an upcoming system will work for their market. This is non-news.
Joelstinton14
Member
The wii numbers were not a complete fluke.
Nintendo had released an attractive console - it had ease of use and a good price point. It was great value for money. Consumers saw that.
The Ds achieved the same thing. Both Nintendo products that were out on the market at he same time were well marketed, well realised and easy to communicate to the consumer what they did.
I just wish people would give Nintendo a bit of a credit when it comes to their successes and always writing it of as a fluke unless you are willing to write off every success as a fluke.
Dark Cloud
Member
But don't jump to negative conclusions. He could mean the NX can play cellphone games for all we know, but have SCD to boost power.
Exactly what I thought they should be doing.
The market of hardcore console gamers is saturated with consoles catering to their every whim. Especially with Scorpio and Neo on the horizon. Nintendo simply can't compete there and they know it. They've basically been irrelevant for two generations.
Best case scenario is they come up with an extremely compelling gimmick akin the Wiimote and hope like hell that lightning strikes twice. A cheap, easy-to-get-into device that families can enjoy together.
The market of hardcore console gamers is saturated with consoles catering to their every whim. Especially with Scorpio and Neo on the horizon. Nintendo simply can't compete there and they know it. They've basically been irrelevant for two generations.
Best case scenario is they come up with an extremely compelling gimmick akin the Wiimote and hope like hell that lightning strikes twice. A cheap, easy-to-get-into device that families can enjoy together.
legacyzero
Banned
Not this shit again. That market was pretty temporary. Theyre too connected to their iPhones now
Exactly. That ship sailed.
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Deleted member 126221
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The NX won't get the 3rd party support "mos people here would care about", no matter what it is. Let it go.
Stone Ocean
Member
Good luck trying to get those people away from mobile.
Hale-XF11
Member
I would be elated if they went 3rd party. I want their games, but I don't want to buy their systems.
I don't know what Ubi saw and if they're trying to sell their futur family game but I doubt Nintendo wll make a second time the same mistake they made with the Wii u and Nintendo akwnoledged many time that mistake.
Before jumping to conclusion I prefer to read more feedbacks from other media outlets than just 1.
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Jack The Nipper
Banned
This thread
link?
there was a big guy on the show once who gave it a hge spin and the annoucer said I think you broke it. Was a long time ago.. well over 10 yeas. May never see it again
Highly doubt it. They cut GamePad functionality from the game (like the inventory selection that was present in the WW and TP remakes) and said the Wii U and NX versions will be an identical experience. Seems apparent that they cut the GamePad features to make the Wii U and NX versions very similar.
megashock5
Member
That's the thing. I'd be okay with NX being lower powered compared to the other two IF the price reflects it.
Nintendo already has a loyal fanbase but it's too small to really support today big productions.
What Nintendo need is to appeal to a broader audience.
The problem going from Wii to WiiU wasn't that "Wii audience wasn't loyal" but that WiiU console (and software) was an unappealing product with very little hype from the beginning (meaning from the system unvealing at E3).
Empyrean Heaven
Member
Because if they just matched MS and Sony power-for-power, they'd still get wiped out because they're competing for the same market and they just don't want to spend the money and they don't have the mindshare to do that. If Nintendo wants to focus on family-based gaming and being the secondary console for hardcore gamers, that's a much safer route to take.
Also, since when do you dictate what the gaming industry "wants"?
Me too.
Storm Kyleis
Member
I hope it's true, which doesn't really mean anything for the "core" audience. NX should be user friendly and accessible, and offer a big library of games like Zelda.
Gotta love the reactions.
Gotta love the reactions.
tkscz
Member
This. Whenever 3rd parties talk about consoles it's always a loose idea or their own interpretation of it.
m.i.s.
Banned
I appreciate that. However, there is still a market for a cheap, dedicated, casual and family oriented console with key Nintendo titles you can't get elsewhere.