"Entitled", really?
An apology from the waitress is all he is entitled to, anything beyond that is unnecessary and should not be expected by any halfway decent person.
Agreed.
"Entitled", really?
An apology from the waitress is all he is entitled to, anything beyond that is unnecessary and should not be expected by any halfway decent person.
I don't get why so many people here act like making a thread about it is such a big deal. All I did was make a thread how a bowl of soup got spilled on me, I didn't make a big deal about it, I have good reason to think management knew about it, and that I was surprised that they didn't feel compelled to address the issue in any way outside of the waitress apologizing, and asked if others that work in this industry think it was mishandled. Apparently that is some huge endeavor that clearly shows that I'm obsessing over it like it's a bad breakup.Pretty much.
I don't understand where all of this "you're owed nothing and are an asshole if you expect anything (and god forbid dare to bring it up to the staff)" talk is coming from.
"Entitled", really?
An apology from the waitress is all he is entitled to, anything beyond that is unnecessary and should not be expected by any halfway decent person.
I don't get why so many people here act like making a thread about it is such a big deal. All I did was make a thread how a bowl of soup got spilled on me, I didn't make a big deal about it, I have good reason to think management knew about it, and that I was surprised that they didn't feel compelled to address the issue in any way outside of the waitress apologizing, and asked if others that work in this industry think it was mishandled. Apparently that is some huge endeavor that clearly shows that I'm obsessing over it like it's a bad breakup.
Picture of the spill spot on the clothes could have been very enlightening, but OP did not say anything to anyone.
It is a busy restaurant. Obviously nobody else in the OPs party felt it was important enough to speak to the manager or thought it was a big deal.
Does not not strike you or anyone else as odd? If you were with a friend and a huge mess was made as implied, wouldn't you suggest they talk to a manager or wouldn't you say something to a manager? None of these did.
Op was not alone.
Yeah, he's absolutely entitled. If you spill soup on me then I'm getting something out of it. An apology is the bare minimum. Dude should have talked to a manager.
I just had a steak come out rare that was ordered medium yesterday. I told waitress. No comp on it. I kind of was alright with the rare steak and ate it anyways and let her know that, just wanted to let the chef know. Didn't really expect a comp, but I sort of figured they would have done something as it was a $27 steak. Oh well.
You're paying $27 bucks for a steak and it's cooked wrong, send it back. No honor in being a doormat. That said, the chef actually did you a favor.
I just had a steak come out rare that was ordered medium yesterday. I told waitress. No comp on it. I kind of was alright with the rare steak and ate it anyways and let her know that, just wanted to let the chef know. Didn't really expect a comp, but I sort of figured they would have done something as it was a $27 steak. Oh well.
It wasn't my soup, so I don't know what it was. It was a thinner soup.Have we found out what kind of soup it was?
Was it a creamy soup like Corn Chowder?
Was it a thin soup like Chicken noodle?
Important questions we seem to be glossing over here.
Makes me question if I should visit Offtopic more, lol.
That not being comped by the restaurant is failing customer service 101 on their end.
Lol what are you saying? Why would one of my co-workers do that? We talked about while we waited for our food. I said that I wanted to see how the restaurant will handle it and I didn't want to make a scene over it. And I've explained several times how I have good reason to believe management knew. The whole restaurant knew, and it was a very small place. And even if the manager didn't know, the right thing for the waitress to do is bring it up. Not only because it is the right thing to do, but it is also the safer thing to do. I could have possibly decided to talk to management after I saw I was billed. At that point, if I told the manager I got soup spilled on me and the manager didn't know, I assume they would be very upset at the waitress for hiding it. So if I were the waitress, I would have owned up to it.
I've done something similar. I worked at GameStop when the PS4 was coming out. I mistakenly preordered an Xbox one for a customer instead of a PS4. So that customer wasn't going to be able to get a PS4 like he ordered. I felt really bad about it and I found another store that may have been able to get him one in a couple of days. I don't know how it turned out for the guy. My manager never heard about it. I told him about it though because he had more leverage to rectify the situation, you should own up to your mistakes, and if the customer talked to him later to complain he would be more upset that I tried to hide it and wait for the problem to go away.
It wasn't my soup, so I don't know what it was. It was a thinner soup.
Maybe everyone in the group was in on it and told the waitress to spill it on your lap as a practical joke.
I tried to find him a new one, and he might have. Stock isn't always easy to secure at launch. My manager also gave his info to corporate and explained the issue, so maybe they helped him out. I kinda wish the incident happened on launch day. If it did, I would have let him purchase my preordered PS4. Unfortunately, he came in the next day after I had already bought and set up my PS4.So you didn't comp his PS4? You basically said aplogized like the wiatress did to you, even though in your case you still got your meal.
Maybe everyone in the group was in on it and told the waitress to spill it on your lap as a practical joke.
I get the whole "squeaky wheel gets the grease" thing. But I do think a responsible management should feel compelled to step in regardless in certain situations. I mean, lets just say you're the manager and let's assume you knew it happened. Wouldn't you personally feel compelled to proactively address the issue if a customer got a bowl of hot soup spilled on them? That's really all I'm saying here. I don't think I was legally owed anything. I'm just asking how others would have handled the situation themselves. That's what is so weird about all of the "entitled" arguments some people are throwing around here. It's like some people are acting like it is being entitled to think somebody did a bad job.Waiting tables is a hard job. For starters, one small mistake and it can cost you and the restaurant a lot of income. If they granted a free meal every time a mistake was made, restaurants would go out of business pretty fast. So most do so for people who complain or demand it, to try and make them happy. The OP didn't complain, and the outcome is to be expected.
Two Words, if you want a free meal next time, demand it. You'll get it. But I don't think the restaurant is mandated to give you one when the situation was mutually and amicably resolved.
Personally, I don't ask for or expect free food because someone made a mistake, because people are human. I've returned a few items that were not made to order or super bad quality and said I wasn't paying for (or eating) that item, but that's as far as I'll go. As a result I don't get free meals.
A waiter once spilled the entire contents of 4 cups on my sister when he tripped holding the drinks. We didn't even complain and the management came out and apologized and did everything else. We still payed though since it probably would've came out of the waiters pay. Since it was an accident.
However the fact the restaurant didn't even try to compensate you in any way is really odd. Seems like the management itself is fucked.
Hopefully you and others with similar posts are not in client facing work."Entitled", really?
An apology from the waitress is all he is entitled to, anything beyond that is unnecessary and should not be expected by any halfway decent person.
I get the whole "squeaky wheel gets the grease" thing. But I do think a responsible management should feel compelled to step in regardless in certain situations. I mean, lets just say you're the manager and let's assume you knew it happened. Wouldn't you personally feel compelled to proactively address the issue if a customer got a bowl of hot soup spilled on them? That's really all I'm saying here. I don't think I was legally owed anything. I'm just asking how others would have handled the situation themselves. That's what is so weird about all of the "entitled" arguments some people are throwing around here. It's like some people are acting like it is being entitled to think somebody did a bad job.
Any decent restaurant manager WHO KNEW.Hopefully you and others with similar posts are not in client facing work.
Any decent restaurant manager would waive your bill and offer your dry cleaning.
There are two arguments that have been going on.Completely right. If they KNEW it happened.
You keep talking like management willfully ignored it.
If they didn't know, they didn't do a bad job by not acting. If you still complain to us in this case, you are acting weirdly entitled by acting like they should have done something.
I get the whole "squeaky wheel gets the grease" thing. But I do think a responsible management should feel compelled to step in regardless in certain situations. I mean, lets just say you're the manager and let's assume you knew it happened. Wouldn't you personally feel compelled to proactively address the issue if a customer got a bowl of hot soup spilled on them? That's really all I'm saying here. I don't think I was legally owed anything. I'm just asking how others would have handled the situation themselves. That's what is so weird about all of the "entitled" arguments some people are throwing around here. It's like some people are acting like it is being entitled to think somebody did a bad job.
Consider things from her perspective. Her job might be on the line. It's reasonable to not escalate incidents that are resolved without complaint.There are two arguments that have been going on.
1. That management may have not known. I have good reason to believe they did know, but I obviously cannot be 100% certain. I can accept that this is a possibility. In that case, I would say it was a failure on the waitress for not telling management. Not only because it is the right thing to do so management can address it, but also because it is the safer thing to do. I could have made a complaint after seeing my bill and I'd expect the manager would be upset to find out about the incident much later since the waitress tried to hide it. So if I were the waitress, I'd inform the manager. I've done similar things in the past working retail and I told management.
2. Management did know and they didn't do anything because I didn't complain. The post I made that you quoted addresses why that case is the management doing a bad job.
So basically, either management did a bad job or the waitress did a bad job trying to hide it.
I get the whole "squeaky wheel gets the grease" thing. But I do think a responsible management should feel compelled to step in regardless in certain situations. I mean, lets just say you're the manager and let's assume you knew it happened. Wouldn't you personally feel compelled to proactively address the issue if a customer got a bowl of hot soup spilled on them? That's really all I'm saying here. I don't think I was legally owed anything. I'm just asking how others would have handled the situation themselves. That's what is so weird about all of the "entitled" arguments some people are throwing around here. It's like some people are acting like it is being entitled to think somebody did a bad job.
If you read the posts from people that do or have worked in the service industry, they are pretty much all saying that management should have done something. So I have to strongly disagree with your 90% figure.I agree with this. But I (and it looks like around 90% of the replies) disagree that this is one of those situations. The reason people think you sound entitled is you are literally saying you are entitled to a free meal despite not complaining or asking for one. You asked a question in the OP, everyone responded, and you are not liking that response. It happens.
As far as how I would have handled it were I the manager:
If she said the customer was really mad, I'd say to offer a free meal.
If she said he's accepted her apology and everything seemed fine, to not. And that's assuming she told a manager; she might have not wanted to get in trouble, since the customer was not complaining.
There are two arguments that have been going on.
1. That management may have not known. I have good reason to believe they did know, but I obviously cannot be 100% certain. I can accept that this is a possibility. In that case, I would say it was a failure on the waitress for not telling management. Not only because it is the right thing to do so management can address it, but also because it is the safer thing to do. I could have made a complaint after seeing my bill and I'd expect the manager would be upset to find out about the incident much later since the waitress tried to hide it. So if I were the waitress, I'd inform the manager. I've done similar things in the past working retail and I told management.
2. Management did know and they didn't do anything because I didn't complain. The post I made that you quoted addresses why that case is the management doing a bad job.
So basically, either management did a bad job or the waitress did a bad job trying to hide it.
700 replies lol
Consider things from her perspective. Her job might be on the line. It's reasonable to not escalate incidents that are resolved without complaint.
I am making the argument that rather than the waitress doing a bad job, or management doing a bad job, you did a bad job as a customer of communicating how unhappy you were or what your expectations were. If you did, and were not compensated, then they would be at fault.
If you read the posts from people that do or have worked in the service industry, they are pretty much all saying that management should have done something. So I have to strongly disagree with your 90% figure.
And I am not being entitled. I feel like management should have done something. That isn't being entitled. If I felt that they must do something or else, that would be entitled. I don't feel that somebody must hold the door open for me if I'm right behind them, but I think they should as common courtesy. Thinking that way isn't the same as feeling I am entitled to have the door held open for me.
A large number of you are advocating for a world where only those that complain deserve reparations.
This makes it so that polite or naturally conflict averse people will always get the short end of the stick.
I'm assuming most in this thread are American because some of these views are crazy. Pretty much every place I've been to, if there's a mess up they'll do something, whether it's a free drink or a free meal and dessert, without asking.
If you just assume that either the minimum wage worker will go tell their boss they fucked up, or maybe that the manager has some weird sort of mind reading power he uses to find out if anything is wrong, then that's on you.
Here, have a terribly filmed video that shows Austrian artist Stefan Sagmeister explain how it works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DskafvwUNrY
It's not "advocating" anything. It's explaining how the world we already have works.