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[Hazardous Metal]

Anyone who plays this game on PC knows that getting a solid 60FPS in populated areas even on Medium settings is impossible. The game is incredibly CPU-bound so I'm not surprised by this at all.

 

[Mrbob]

This is what I expected for Xbox One X over PS4 Pro. More graphical features at 4K but run at the same frame rate as PS4 Pro.

 

[LukasTaves]

Anyone who plays this game on PC knows that getting a solid 60FPS in populated areas even on Medium settings is impossible. The game is incredibly CPU-bound so I'm not surprised by this at all.

That too, It's clear the GPU isn't the issue when even the Xbone handles it fairly well at 1080p (until you go to the PVP area and it becomes a slide show)

 

[Kayant]

Good good support platforms well if budget/time along it.

Why is WCCFTech getting sourced more often these days? @_@

I guess Gamingbolt is sleeping atm 😂 so wccftech is following the money.

they should be able to get 4k@60fps

So I can assume you're working on the game then or have insider knowledge why this should the case.

 

[JaffeLion]

they should be able to get 4k@60fps

but they just said no?
maybe if they cut down visuals.

 

[WonkyPanda]

Like most MMOs, these games are extremely CPU-intensive.

That game looks great at 4K on the Pro, but you definitely can see the bells and whistles that are missing from the 1080-E mode.

 

[Mauddib]

Hotdamn that's awesome. It has enough power to go 4k with the additional flourishes that the Pro can only achieve if the resolution is lowered to 1080p.

 

[MosquitoSmasher]

Let's not forget that MS also freed up that extra GB of RAM. That news appeared right before E3. For sure things like that help out a lot as well. That's why I sure as hell hope most third parties will bother with this and not just leave all the extra power to waste.

 

[onQ123]

Hotdamn that's awesome. It has enough power to go 4k with the additional flourishes that the Pro can only achieve if the resolution is lowered to 1080p.

I think you better wait to see if this actually happens because Xbox One X isn't 4X as powerful as the PS4 Pro it's not even 2X the power of the PS4 Pro so I doubt that they will have the same settings as the PS4 Pro 1080P mode while running in 4K, if it does 1080P mode on PS4 Pro is being held back. I think some of the 1080P PS4 Pro settings will make it to 4K on Xbox One X but not a full 4X jump from 1080P PS4 Pro to 4K Xbox One X.

 

[Plywood]

We had the chance to speak with Game Director Matt Firor at E3 2017 and ask him whether the Xbox One X was powerful enough to run Elder Scrolls Online at 4K@60FPS.

I'm sure it could, but it'd look like ass.

 

[Smokey]

Good news

 

[FalsettoVibe]

they should be able to get 4k@60fps

Sigh...when will this end

 

[Sunset Samurai]

they should be able to get 4k@60fps

I doubt any open world game will run at 4k 60fps on x1x.

 

[Liliana Eileen]

Let's not forget that MS also freed up that extra GB of RAM. That news appeared right before E3. For sure things like that help out a lot as well. That's why I sure as hell hope most third parties will bother with this and not just leave all the extra power to waste.

Have we seen this in action yet?

 

[Hawk269]

I hope they use the extra memory to bring over some of the better texture resolution of the PC version to the Xbox One X

 

[Liabe Brave]

wow HUGE difference in Resolution.

No, the exact same resolution. The difference lies in other effects.

Well, 1080p to 4K is a big jump, dunno for this game but the more memory could also provide better textures even with Pro at 1080p.

They are not jumping from 1080p to 2160p, they're going from 2160p to 2160p with improved effects. And the dev didn't mention better textures, which they almost certainly would if present.

And most games on Pro are 1800c, with little to no added graphics settings....

No they are not.

Hotdamn that's awesome. It has enough power to go 4k with the additional flourishes that the Pro can only achieve if the resolution is lowered to 1080p.

If you just think about it, you'd realize this can't possibly be true. The One X is more powerful than Pro, but nowhere near four times as powerful. What's far more likely is that the dev didn't want to spend a huge amount of time tweaking performance, so didn't bother examining intermediate resolution options for the low mode.

 

[WastedDeer]

No, the exact same resolution. The difference lies in other effects.


They are not jumping from 1080p to 2160p, they're going from 2160p to 2160p with improved effects. And the dev didn't mention better textures, which they almost certainly would if present.


No they are not.


If you just think about it, you'd realize this can't possibly be true. The One X is more powerful than Pro, but nowhere near four times as powerful. What's far more likely is that the dev didn't want to spend a huge amount of time tweaking performance, so didn't bother examining intermediate resolution options for the low mode.

I just read through the pro enhanced game thread to see what games we may expect to get an upgrade. Firstly I want to state it makes quite sad reading and I hope developers make more effort in the future. Second you are right most games aren't 1800c because most are lower as a %. Hopefully X will make pro better for you.

 

[Liabe Brave]

Second you are right....

Thanks, though I was already aware of that.

 

[geordiemp]

I mean given the hardware they should have pushed for 60fps. But ESO is not well optimized even with a 1070 fps drops to below 60 sometimes in 30s in towns with lot of people at 1080p.

Jaguar

I hope they put decent CPUs in the next gen consoles so we can get more 60 FPS games.

Cant happen soon enough

 

[Khaos Kontrol]

I hope they put decent CPUs in the next gen consoles so we can get more 60 FPS games.

 

[Caayn]

I hope they put decent CPUs in the next gen consoles so we can get more 60 FPS games.

Devs would sadly still focus on creating 30fps titles even if the consoles were equipped with a Threadripper CPU.

 

[belvedere]

Thanks, though I was already aware of that.

Liabe you're the owner of the Pro improvements thread right? At last count weren't there more 2160 (dynamic or native) Pro titles than 1440/1800 etc?

 

[Liabe Brave]

Liabe you're the owner of the Pro improvements thread right? At last count weren't there more 2160 (dynamic or native) Pro titles than 1440/1800 etc?

It depends exactly what you mean by that question. I believe I said in another thread that the vast majority of titles are 1080p on Pro, because they don't have any official support at all. The same will surely be true on Xbox One X as well.

Of the games that do have official support, about a quarter of them are 1080p (32 out of 127). This is a combination of perfunctory support, the occasional title rising from 900p, and devs who consciously chose to focus on cranking up graphical effects or framerate instead of resolution.

If we're just talking about the 95 games that do have higher-resolution modes, then the answer to your question is yes. In that category, there are 54 games with what Microsoft labels as "True 4K" resolution, and 41 with lower (about a 57/43 split). Since it will undoubtedly come up, 37 of those 4K games are native 4K.

 

[belvedere]

It depends exactly what you mean by that question. I believe I said in another thread that the vast majority of titles are 1080p on Pro, because they don't have any official support at all. The same will surely be true on Xbox One X as well.

Of the games that do have official support, about a quarter of them are 1080p (32 out of 127). This is a combination of perfunctory support, the occasional title rising from 900p, and devs who consciously chose to focus on cranking up graphical effects or framerate instead of resolution.

If we're just talking about the 95 games that do have higher-resolution modes, then the answer to your question is yes. In that category, there are 54 games with what Microsoft labels as "True 4K" resolution, and 41 with lower (about a 57/43 split). Since it will undoubtedly come up, 37 of those 4K games are native 4K.

Ok so that lines up with what I was seeing a few weeks ago. If we're talking about Pro supported titles targeting above 1080p, most run on the 2160 side than the 1440p side.

 

[jizzlobber]

Remember when 900p was a huge deal Vs 1080p?
Here we have 1080p Vs 4k!

Wow!

 

[ChackanKun]

What I would love would be some crossplay :|

But good thing for X1X users, I'm always switching between 1080p vs 4K modes, can't decide which one I like the most lol

 

[onQ123]

Remember when 900p was a huge deal Vs 1080p?
Here we have 1080p Vs 4k!

Wow!

No we don't

 

[FingerBang]

That would be a bit disappointing because isn't Pro already hitting checkerboard 4K pretty often with games now? So that's only going to mean XB1X will maintain the resolution better?

That's the thing: it isn't.

I think the majority of games are not 4K (regardless of native or cb) on PS4. Some games are just 1080p. We have to hope Xbox One X gives developers one more reason to squeeze more out of the consoles...

 

[rokkerkory]

No we don't

fp16 mode in this game for pro would be a game changer

 

[PuppetMaster]

Screw this XBoxX mess. I'm waiting for Scorpio!

 

[NoMoreTrolls]

Sounds reasonable, given the power gap.

 

[onQ123]

fp16 mode in this game for pro would be a game changer

This game look like it always used fp16

 

[Fuchsdh]

That's more like it. If both systems are used properly we should see either -

a) Graphics parity, with X1X having much higher resolution

or

b) Same or similar resolution, with better graphics, textures etc on X1X


30fps vs 60fps ain't happening except maybe on some rare cases. Dat Jaguar.

I agree, but the 30>60 consideration probably isn't just about the processor (because they could forgo pretty toggles if they wanted to hit 60 on a lot of games and would probably be fine.) The higher frame rate adds a lot to most games, so I imagine they're better off trying to keep that stuff feeling consistent. Using the nicest platform to show off quasi-bullshots is nothing new but I think people are going to feel the different a lot more often.

 

[enemy2k]

Dope, I play ESO so really looking forward to seeing the graphical and the 4k resolution upgraded on One X. I have a 4k tv and can't wait till they finally release The X.

 

[RedAssedApe]

Are they doing native and not cb on pro?

 

[Ryu Hayabusa]

PS4 Pro 1080p enhancements at 4k on X1X. Excellent.

 

[Mauddib]

No we don't

Umm that's exactly what it is. The Pro can't output 4k at those graphical settings. If it could, the game would be 4k at those settings.

 

[Ryu Hayabusa]

Remember when 900p was a huge deal Vs 1080p?
Here we have 1080p Vs 4k!

Wow!

Resolution Gate 2nd Round

 

[onQ123]

Umm that's exactly what it is. The Pro can't output 4k at those graphical settings. If it could, the game would be 4k at those settings.

So the PS4 Pro native 4K mode don't exist because the game director said that the game most likely will run in 4K while getting the graphic effects that PS4 Pro has at 1080P?

Users have the chance to pick between a native 4K (2160P) resolution at 30 frames per second or, alternatively, stay at Full HD (1080P) resolution to get better shadows, ambient occlusion, and water reflections.

We had the chance to speak with Game Director Matt Firor at E3 2017 and ask him whether the Xbox One X was powerful enough to run Elder Scrolls Online at 4K@60FPS. The team is still making tweaks at this point, but he replied that it’s most likely going to run at 4K@30FPS while also getting those additional graphics effects that PS4 Pro only enables when running at 1080P resolution.

You should probably wait to see what effects they will be using at 4K but even then it's still 4K vs 4K not 1080P vs 4K.

 

[Flying Toaster]

Good. I want to see more use of the extra power when possible.

 

[SRTtoZ]

I mean given the hardware they should have pushed for 60fps. But ESO is not well optimized even with a 1070 fps drops to below 60 sometimes in 30s in towns with lot of people at 1080p.

Yep, the base hero engine is garbage. I get 4k/60 in many places but all of a sudden it will dip to under 30 even with 1080p.

 

[Prophaniti]

Shame they didn't keep the same visuals and bump the performance. Game is no looker.

It straight up looks like "Video Game"
It's the game I picture when in a tv show a kids holding a GameCube controller and they flash a shot of the tv with an original xbox plugged in.
It's the most generic crap I've ever seen. It's like someone described a video game to a first year art student who has never played a game before.

 

[Liabe Brave]

Are they doing native and not cb on pro?

Yes.

The Pro can't output 4k at those graphical settings. If it could, the game would be 4k at those settings.

There's a huge difference between "the Pro can't run those settings at native 4K" and "the Pro can only run these settings at 1080p". The first statement is true, and the second statement is basically impossible.

 

[ViolentP]

It straight up looks like "Video Game"
It's the game I picture when in a tv show a kids holding a GameCube controller and they flash a shot of the tv with an original xbox plugged in.
It's the most generic crap I've ever seen. It's like someone described a video game to a first year art student who has never played a game before.

It's still fun though. Currently playing it. But in regards to a graphics pissing contest, this is some low hanging fruit.

 

[jizzlobber]

edit- already dealt with

 

[Inuhanyou]

not 60fps!? Damn parity strikes again!

I'm just kidding, but seriously, i hope people realize that these CPU's are not miracle workers and they aren't going to cause FPS to jump like that.

Umm that's exactly what it is. The Pro can't output 4k at those graphical settings. If it could, the game would be 4k at those settings.

its not 1080p vs 4K, its 4K vs 4K with higher graphical settings.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Man. 1080p vs. 4k at the same settings. That reminds me of CoD: Ghosts 720p vs. 1080p.

 

[tuna_love]

not 60fps!? Damn parity strikes again!

I'm just kidding, but seriously, i hope people realize that these CPU's are not miracle workers and they aren't going to cause FPS to jump like that.



its not 1080p vs 4K, its 4K vs 4K with higher graphical settings.

thats not what it says

 

[Rourkey]

Oh boy.

And. Here. We. Go.

I wonder if FIFA, COD, Destiny, will have the infamous'graphics parity clause' now, but the other way?

By the way - to be clear, I very much doubt such a clause exists or ever existed.

The clause doesn't exist, devs just enforce it in order not to alienate one set of gamers

 

[commedieu]

Keeping up with this gen is so hard.

So hardware power is uber significant again? Is that what's happening?