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WE DID IT: Toy Story-Level Video Game Graphics Acheived - Literally
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rayman1900
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This thread title is silly!
pixelpatr0n
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It's lightyear....SPACE RANGER!😉
potatohead
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The shading quality and overall IQ is not actually the same.
The output resolution and texture assets yea, but very much discounting what Toy Story does with the rendering system in terms of shading and lighting which is only approximated in real-time in comparison even still today.
The output resolution and texture assets yea, but very much discounting what Toy Story does with the rendering system in terms of shading and lighting which is only approximated in real-time in comparison even still today.
UE4 putting in work
If I didn't see the Kingdom Hearts trailer and you told me these were screenshots from Toy Story 4, I'd believe you. Amazing.
Unity can also do PBR, as well as seemingly most proprietary AAA game engines these days.
CaviarMeths
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IQ is still years off. Maybe even a couple of full generations. But it looks fantastic.
Can't wait for Moana-like visuals on the PS12.
Can't wait for Moana-like visuals on the PS12.
Dr. Black Jack
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Fucking barf. Yes the graphics are good but it's fucking Toy Story. Hard pass.
DangerMouse
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Yeah, amazing stuff.
It's only early Pixar humans that look horrific.
Gotta love shit posts that don't actually have anything to do with the topic of a thread!
Look at Woody's ear though :/
gamerMan
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It might seem close, but we aren't even half way there yet. This is an approximation of the a 1995 CG movie that cuts corners everywhere. I think we now have enough of polygons as long as we don't go too close to the models. As soon as the camera moves in close, it is easy to see the polygonal edges and low res blurry textures. Look at how blocky Woody's fingers are. When the camera gets close, the button on his shirt looks like it could cut you with its razor sharp edges.
In terms of lighting and shadowing, it is not even close. We are talking millions of miles away. Comparatively Kingdom Hearts looks unlit. The materials, shaders, shadowing, and lighting look flat. Woody's hat looks like it is made out of plastic not cloth. There is no self shadowing on any of the models. All of the shadow maps are extremely low res and look like they are baked on for static objects. Because of the lack of realistic shadowing, the characters look like cutouts.
Like the movie, you would think they would simulate the sunlight coming into the room but everything has a flat and even look.
Why is Woody's hat not casting self shadows? Why is nothing in the environment casting shadows on the characters? The wood looks like it is painted on the floor not actual wood. The bedspead looks like a texture of a bedspread painted onto a polygon instead of being actually modeled and looking like fabric.
In terms of CG, this looks like it came out before 1995. For a video game, it is amazing, but comparing to even a 1995 CG is grand hyperbole.
In terms of lighting and shadowing, it is not even close. We are talking millions of miles away. Comparatively Kingdom Hearts looks unlit. The materials, shaders, shadowing, and lighting look flat. Woody's hat looks like it is made out of plastic not cloth. There is no self shadowing on any of the models. All of the shadow maps are extremely low res and look like they are baked on for static objects. Because of the lack of realistic shadowing, the characters look like cutouts.
Like the movie, you would think they would simulate the sunlight coming into the room but everything has a flat and even look.
Why is Woody's hat not casting self shadows? Why is nothing in the environment casting shadows on the characters? The wood looks like it is painted on the floor not actual wood. The bedspead looks like a texture of a bedspread painted onto a polygon instead of being actually modeled and looking like fabric.
In terms of CG, this looks like it came out before 1995. For a video game, it is amazing, but comparing to even a 1995 CG is grand hyperbole.
Death Penalty
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Comparing Rex in KHIII to Rex in Toy Story makes it painfully evident just by his textures that we aren't there yet.
KHIII is so freaking beautiful though, the fact that we're even having this discussion is praise the game well-deserves.
KHIII is so freaking beautiful though, the fact that we're even having this discussion is praise the game well-deserves.
Interficium
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Still literally generations behind on geometry complexity and accuracy of lighting, but nice try OP.
OfTheOverflow
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Gotta agree with gamerMan on this one. If you take even a cursory look, you can see we aren't there yet. It looks good, but not there yet.
Cow Mengde
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It might seem close, but we aren't even half way there yet. This is an approximation of the a 1995 CG movie that cuts corners everywhere. I think we now have enough of polygons as long as we don't go too close to the models. As soon as the camera moves in close, it is easy to see the polygonal edges and low res blurry textures. Look at how blocky Woody's fingers are. When the camera gets close, the button on his shirt looks like it could cut you with its razor sharp edges.
In terms of lighting and shadowing, it is not even close. We are talking millions of miles away. Comparatively Kingdom Hearts looks unlit. The materials, shaders, shadowing, and lighting look flat. Woody's hat looks like it is made out of plastic not cloth. There is no self shadowing on any of the models. All of the shadow maps are extremely low res and look like they are baked on for static objects. Because of the lack of realistic shadowing, the characters look like cutouts.
Like the movie, you would think they would simulate the sunlight coming into the room but everything has a flat and even look.
Why is Woody's hat not casting self shadows? Why is nothing in the environment casting shadows on the characters? The wood looks like it is painted on the floor not actual wood. The bedspead looks like a texture of a bedspread painted onto a polygon instead of being actually modeled and looking like fabric.
In terms of CG, this looks like it came out before 1995. For a video game, it is amazing, but comparing to even a 1995 CG is grand hyperbole.
LOL. Geez, it's not even close.
The_Endgamer
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Finally doing what the PS2 couldn't do lol.
Read up about Pixar render farms and be in the comfort knowing that home consoles won't stand a chance.
I know it's been 22 years (damn!) but there's just things like lighting and IQ that developers will never match. It's nothing to be ashamed of but Pixar not only has their render farms behind them but also equally (if not better) artistic direction.
I know it's been 22 years (damn!) but there's just things like lighting and IQ that developers will never match. It's nothing to be ashamed of but Pixar not only has their render farms behind them but also equally (if not better) artistic direction.
Am i the only one who HATED how Toy Story 1 looked? it looked so bad compared to traditional 2d movies...
I can agree on the number of polygons, but all the rest is developer's fault, please don't tell me that modern games can't do something way better looking than that shitty Toy Story bedroom, also with a good use of PBR everything should look better by default.
It might seem close, but we aren't even half way there yet. This is an approximation of the a 1995 CG movie that cuts corners everywhere. I think we now have enough of polygons as long as we don't go too close to the models. As soon as the camera moves in close, it is easy to see the polygonal edges and low res blurry textures. Look at how blocky Woody's fingers are. When the camera gets close, the button on his shirt looks like it could cut you with its razor sharp edges.
In terms of lighting and shadowing, it is not even close. We are talking millions of miles away. Comparatively Kingdom Hearts looks unlit. The materials, shaders, shadowing, and lighting look flat. Woody's hat looks like it is made out of plastic not cloth. There is no self shadowing on any of the models. All of the shadow maps are extremely low res and look like they are baked on for static objects. Because of the lack of realistic shadowing, the characters look like cutouts.
Like the movie, you would think they would simulate the sunlight coming into the room but everything has a flat and even look.
Why is Woody's hat not casting self shadows? Why is nothing in the environment casting shadows on the characters? The wood looks like it is painted on the floor not actual wood. The bedspead looks like a texture of a bedspread painted onto a polygon instead of being actually modeled and looking like fabric.
In terms of CG, this looks like it came out before 1995. For a video game, it is amazing, but comparing to even a 1995 CG is grand hyperbole.
I can agree on the number of polygons, but all the rest is developer's fault, please don't tell me that modern games can't do something way better looking than that shitty Toy Story bedroom, also with a good use of PBR everything should look better by default.
There are some things in CG movies that games will not even come close to with current tech.
Single frames of Toy Story are rendered in huge farms to absolute perfection with perfect round edges, perfect shadows/lighting and models have zero polygon restraints. It's far from realistic to expect that kind of fidelity in current day video games.
So no, while we come close to fooling people into thinking we've achieved similar quality image-wise. We still have a long way to go.
Single frames of Toy Story are rendered in huge farms to absolute perfection with perfect round edges, perfect shadows/lighting and models have zero polygon restraints. It's far from realistic to expect that kind of fidelity in current day video games.
So no, while we come close to fooling people into thinking we've achieved similar quality image-wise. We still have a long way to go.
Laughing Banana
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The OP seemed so.... strangely proud.
PoorChoices
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I think that shot is from the end of Toy Story 1. When it's Christmas and they find out Andy got a puppy.
Cynicdotal
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wow... WOW
Commanche Raisin Toast
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I watched the trailer yesterday finally and noticed a lot of aliasing on the characters. That and lighting we're the only things that broke the "is this from a Toy Story movie?" illusion.
Otherwise, sure, they look similar. I'm more excited about playing the game though to worry about how close it looks to the movies.
Otherwise, sure, they look similar. I'm more excited about playing the game though to worry about how close it looks to the movies.
nelsonroyale
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Yeah the room at the end of U4 for example is far more impressive than that. Anyway, playing through Horizon right now I find it far more impressive overall than Toy Story the movie. The overall visual quality of the film is very dated.
This, pretty much. The game still looks great, but it ain't there yet.
He's doing the kid a favor tbh. Imagine being a kid and wanting to have a grand old time with Woody and pals, but then being greeted by Kingdom Hearts' story and characters instead. He'd grow up a bitter, confused adult with trust issues.
I'm honestly more impressed with KH3 because it's all happening on a single machine instead of an entire render farm with hours, or even days of time to do so. This is all happening on a $400 to $500 piece of hardware in real time. That too me is far more impressive even if the Toy Story 1 does things better.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
dat grass tho
The grass and textures are definitely better than 1995.
Yeah now this looks far better.dat grass tho
Diablohead
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Looking back at toy story 1 you can see where some of the modelling has stretched or warped textures or looks unnatural, we've come a long way in CG it's great.