Bornstellar
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Why is Microsoft using a Nvidia GTX 7xx in the Xbox One demo units?
- Thread starter Trojita
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Yeah I've seen that already. To expound:
-Doesn't mean every PS4 demo was running on legit PS4 hardware.
-OP's picture doesn't mean every XBone demo was running on PC hardware.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
WOW!
I cannot believe this is for real.
How can they possibly explain how this is legitimate?
It is totally deceptive and duplicitous.
I cannot believe this is for real.
How can they possibly explain how this is legitimate?
It is totally deceptive and duplicitous.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
He just talked about how his team and others worked so hard to get their games running on real ps4 devkits. If you're a developer working on the game in those pictures, a statement live that could come off a slight against your teams effort.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
It just seems to proper response in that case would be something like:
"We made the decision to use PC hardware until the Xbone development kits were finalized. We don't expect any difference in quality in the final release."
Maybe the shitty Xbone development kits are supposed to stay a secret, or you can't talk about them due to some agreement?
Edit: Also, Jonathan has been pretty pissed at MS's treatment of Indie devs lately, so that also also likely played into his tone and reasoning. Regardless you should try to be the bigger guy, especially in a public setting.
No!
I don't think it's very surprising if there are not enough dev kits to go around and/or dev kits are not ready. The bigger question how many games where actually running on dev kits, and if the majority was running on PC, how did this happen 5 months from launch?
Stress filled week of e3, showing off your game to the public hoping for good news, and having another dev fueling the fire of console hate using your product and your decision...
It's a tightrope, and obviously he was pissed that Xbone/his game are being thrown under the bus for an image that people would obviously salivate over given the bad feelings towards the console.
abracadaver
Member
Secret spec upgrade ? X1 to be more powerful than PS4 ?
#wishfulthinking
#wishfulthinking
rohlfinator
Member
Seems like a non-story to me. Maybe we'll see another Aliens:CM situation, but that kind of thing is rare.
The trend of "in-engine" trailers masquerading as gameplay is a lot more deceptive, IMO. This is just a reality of regular development practices.
The trend of "in-engine" trailers masquerading as gameplay is a lot more deceptive, IMO. This is just a reality of regular development practices.
LyleLanley
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Chance Hale
Member
rohlfinator
Member
Doesn't seem that strange to me, these games have been running on PC far longer than the dev hardware. And E3 builds are notoriously a lot of work, some devs probably choose not to add to that by trying to fit a one-time vertical slice demo onto a dev kit before they're ready.
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
I hope this is a joke, otherwise it is the most ridiculous rationalization I have seen yet. The cloud one wsa pretty bad too. Use Occam's Razor, the simplest explanation is most often true. These people are running PC versions and passing them off as XB1 hardware and code.
I tried making a thread about them using GTX 780s on Battlelog, but it got locked as damage control because of ongoing platform wars. Is it most definitely a GTX 780 though? I heard that it could also be a 680, although I kinda think the only reason they'd skip out on a Radeon 7970 (instead of using GTX 680) is that they'd be going for even more power, and Radeon doesn't have a better single card than 7970.
PSYGN
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Isn't that essentially where every Xbox One owner is going?
Atraveller
Banned
Amazing.
well damn..
dreamghost
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Chuck Norris
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Good reference
You do realize this is pretty much the status quo for advertising right. Or did you think all these big companies PR teams really used the sub HD console versions to advertise to you. It's pretty much an open secret that just about everything at E3 is running on computers and has been for years.
There is a slight difference between running on dev kits/sameish speced pcs and running on straight up pcs that have way more raw power than the target next gen machine can offer. I guess there is going to be alot of hours put in to crunch those games shown down to xbone spec. At this point i think everyone is slightly suspicious of everything xbone.
YES!
It would not be enabled on dev units and even if it was, you would only need one PC to emulate it!
That isn't a dev kit...
Caayn
Member
Come on, everyone already knows how people feel towards the DRM policies from Microsoft. There's no need to try to derail every thread into the same DRM topic.
And you wouldn't spec them that high, you'd just get some $400 desktops that won't break on a stream. Nevermind that the stream quality would probably be bad and have the opposite effect: games reported to look WAY worse than they would at launch. And with shit input lag.
maniac-kun
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So in reality: do Xbox One games nativly run on any Windows 7 system but they shove in some DRM so it can only be played on Xbox one?
Windom Earle
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Ok, this is pure gold.
Pristine_Condition
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Atraveller
Banned
No one is derailing anything.
Atraveller
Banned
Not sure if sarcastic...
Yes, that is spot-on.
fierrotlepou
Member
Sure that it's only MS that does this? Sony might too?
i can't breathe
SneakyStephan
Banned
Launch day is going to be glorious
All the comparisons to the e3 demos, people losing their shit because of the visual downgrades.
I cannot wait.
All the comparisons to the e3 demos, people losing their shit because of the visual downgrades.
I cannot wait.
You missed the best bit:
Oh wow.
We're given bullshots and CGI trailers left and right that are meant to convince us of a realistic representation of what we're going to get. This has gone on for many years. I don't understand how this is shocking/appalling/disgusting to anyone.
You wait for the consoles to come out, then you make your judgments.
You wait for the consoles to come out, then you make your judgments.
1. That pic was called out for being photoshopped several pages ago. The original picture is even in the OP.
2. There's a difference between speculation and, as an other poster said, clutching at straws.
3. I won't comment on your XNA fantasies.
Look, it's pretty easy. It has been said that they're 6 months behind - it seems to be true, like many rumours regarding the XBONE. One of the rumours is that we'll see a downgrade in graphics At release, and I believe it's credible. Lucky for you, it's only gonna be 5 months from now, so we will consequenlty see if those are really devkits, magic clouds, secret sauce or anything else defensive average fanboys made up.
I mean, the sheer fact alone that they're using nVidia cards should have you asking uncomfortable questions.
so basically he's saying that HIS decision is questionable ...
That's one way to look at it. I think it's the wrong way.
Is it unfortunate? Yes. Is it questionable? Hell no.
I think this is getting a bit overblown.
Doesn't make it right. Let's take you for a test drive down Coast HWY in a Ferrari, but you're actually going to be driving that route in the equivolant of a V6 Accord Hybrid come launch.
Unless they choke back the hardware, and why would they, it's all pie in the sky.
"Well, we hope to iron out the kinks and it should actually drive this road just like a Ferrari by launch time."
I understand why they are doing it, but it's still something that can lead to misrepresentation in the media (which publishers seem to embrace by and large) and it's easy to see how some people can feel cheated.
KnockOneOff
Banned
Good, hopefully this means PC titles will come out good and strong Lessing the need for a Xbox 
Maybe we will see some kind of emulator removing the need for activation
Really interested what the mod community are planning for the Xbox one, for them it must be looking like a good challenge
Maybe we will see some kind of emulator removing the need for activation
Really interested what the mod community are planning for the Xbox one, for them it must be looking like a good challenge
gaming_noob
Member
Can someone tweet Major Nelson this?
"Showcase a console without actually using the console? That's one approach"
"Showcase a console without actually using the console? That's one approach"