Depends. Kinect was a sales success, but it was gimped because to lower the price they took out processing chips. That was still 150 dollars. If this is $299, it'll sell well, but they will be huge trade offs in specs.
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Wired Morpheus Pre-E3 preview - mentions new Guerrilla game, Trackmania VR, Harmonix
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Depends. Kinect was a sales success, but it was gimped because to lower the price they took out processing chips. That was still 150 dollars. If this is $299, it'll sell well, but they will be huge trade offs in specs.
panda-zebra
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I've never used the $199 figure personally, but $199 by holiday 2016 for stand alone headset i don't see as being too unreasonable if they choose to sell at cost and bring about large scale adoption.
At launch, $350 with camera and a move/move-like wand is my best guess.
Sangetsu-II
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There are already 20 games announced for Morpheus, I would be okay if they announce 20 more.
I fully expect it to be as big a hit as the Sony HMZ headset.
the sony hmz-t1 and hmz-t2 were like $800 each. but that was the r&d device for morpheus i believe. i bought mine 2nd hand for 600.
i dont see this being cheaper than $349.99 after its all said and done.
some of you guys are not being realistic, but ill gladly eat crow if im wrong.
i dont see this being cheaper than $349.99 after its all said and done.
some of you guys are not being realistic, but ill gladly eat crow if im wrong.
Probably not, but we should get a better idea of some games and hardware expectations (camera, Move, etc).
Same. I'm not going to feel bad if I'm expecting $300-400 and it gets announced for less.
BigJonsson
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Kinda funny how a couple years ago the big focus was on motion controls and social gaming in front of the TV and now it's VR which puts you in your own world
N1tr0sOx1d3
Given another chance
I feel exactly the same. For all the pushing the industry has done for social gaming, VR couldn't be any further apart.
BigJonsson
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They'll push for everyone in the living room to have a VR set so they can socialize in the VR world
This might get expensive
N1tr0sOx1d3
Given another chance
They'll push for everyone in the living room to have a VR set so they can socialize in the VR world
This might get expensive
HA! For "several hundred dollars" they can go jump!
N1tr0sOx1d3
Given another chance
For $299 with Alien Isolation VR patched in, I could be persuaded
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Wait so is the new Guerrilla game actually a VR game? Because Shu just RT'd this.
https://twitter.com/VRFocus/status/610470210907336704
https://twitter.com/VRFocus/status/610470210907336704
I'm not expecting a price in the $199 range for Morpheus but, yes, I do see the current pricing of the PS4 as a sensible ceiling for it. I'm not seeing how that logic is "silly": it *is* an accessory to the PS4, esp. in the case of Morpheus since it's likely to be proprietarily tethered to the PS4 alone. If Sony were launching Morpheus more as its own standalone hardware setup for VR gaming on any computing platform, they might have more leeway on pricing.
Yeah, was about to post this - definitely not a mix up then. Only question is if it's built for VR (I hope!) or a hybrid title.
Worth noting that Yoshida and Sony have in the past cautioned against games with 'tacked on' VR modes vs designing games specifically for VR.
Yeah not a mix up because Scott Rhodes reweeted the same article.
I cant wait to see what they have.
HORRORSHØW
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not going to be thrilled if guerilla's game is indeed VR
SteamyPunk
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Maybe in addition to Horizon, Guerrilla is converting something like Killzone 3 to VR?
It could be a Guerrilla Cambridge game...technically Guerrilla are a two team studio now, right?
I saw some people saying on Twitter that Guerrilla Games means Guerrilla Amsterdam, but I doubt Wired would be so discerning.
Horizon could well be the game though, be it from Amsterdam or Cambridge - it is the one with the recent domain name activity recently, right?
I saw some people saying on Twitter that Guerrilla Games means Guerrilla Amsterdam, but I doubt Wired would be so discerning.
Horizon could well be the game though, be it from Amsterdam or Cambridge - it is the one with the recent domain name activity recently, right?
SomedayTheFire
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Maybe this is the Guerrilla game?
Rigs is an arena-based multiplayer FPS from Guerrilla Cambridge - Rumour
http://www.videogamer.com/psvita/ki...ayer_fps_from_guerrilla_cambridge_rumour.html
A mech game could be suited to VR - though no mention of VR explicitly in this article.
Rigs is an arena-based multiplayer FPS from Guerrilla Cambridge - Rumour
http://www.videogamer.com/psvita/ki...ayer_fps_from_guerrilla_cambridge_rumour.html
A mech game could be suited to VR - though no mention of VR explicitly in this article.
I wouldn't be surprised if it is more then 299.99, which considering the hardware and R&D, what sucks is that if it is to high people just wouldn't buy it and it not selling well and for the OR needing a pretty nice spec machine, things like google cardboard will be what pushes vr forward because of the ease of access for consumers. IMO even if the price is high i would understand given what the product offering is, but that also will be the deciding factor for VR to be a big thing now. Or i could be totally wrong and hopefully i am and many will by a morpheus and VR will be a thing much faster. Either way i will be getting one.
It's already VR on PC, actually, and it works excellently. It's not too dizzying to me if I stick to third person.
gunslikewhoa
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If you read his post again you will see that he is saying that even native-English speakers are mistaken, along with Shu (possibly), in using the word several to mean more than one.
They will need to have this thing as a demo in all major retailers. That's the only way it'll sell. People bought Guitar Hero and Rock Band bundles which were more than $150 for plastic instrument controllers with no problem. If they can try this out before they buy it I'm confident it'll be huge.
serversurfer
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Teaming up with other players to take down a Robo-Rex in VR? Sign me up! Just imagine the sense of scale.
I thought so too, but it turns out it actually comes from the Latin adjective sēpar, meaning "separate."
Or, they could go ahead and announce $300, and let Oculus and Valve take the lulz when they come in at $400-$500.
Do you happen to have a link for that? How many million are we talking here?
Yeah, "current customers" will obviously be the first on board, but if the tech takes off, I think it has the potential to draw in a completely new crowd, much like the Wii did when it introduced motion controls. I think those potential new users will be particularly price sensitive.
Yeah, demos will be vital. I expect Morpheus to have a large demo presence at retail.
It's going to be an uphill battle at retail, since you pretty much have to have an employee manning a demo station all day .
serversurfer
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Maybe, maybe not. The latest prototype is supposed to be a lot more intuitive. People needed assistance donning the first model, but supposedly new users are able to handle the new one on their own.
Even if it does need to be staffed full time, Sony will probably provide the manpower themselves. If that turns out to be the case though, the demos will probably be restricted to places like GameStop and Best Buy, with Walmart being left out.
no way its 200 or less
In 2012 there was an estimated 54 million Performance and Enthusiast class PC gamers worldwide. Enthusiast and Performance class PC gamers are defined as those who spend over $1,000 on equipment.
IIRC these numbers was expected to rise to ~70 million by 2014 (or was it 2015..).
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/jpr-pc-gamers-numbers-pc-gaming-dead,15530.html
http://jonpeddie.com/publications/pc_gaming_hardware_market_report/
http://www.iesherpa.com/?cat=222
a Master Ninja
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So is Morpheus stuff really far off or just not a big priority for Sony? I expected them to spend A LOT more time on it.
Elitro
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I guess it's hard to market, because you need to experience it to understand it.
Also with all the things going on in that conference, it makes it even harder to fit VR in it.
But they definitely need to devote some time to it, if they want to make it relevant. I was disappointed with 2.20 mins of Morpheus time, it's just not enough.
Also with all the things going on in that conference, it makes it even harder to fit VR in it.
But they definitely need to devote some time to it, if they want to make it relevant. I was disappointed with 2.20 mins of Morpheus time, it's just not enough.
serversurfer
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Thanks. Unfortunately, that doesn't really tell me how old those 54M computers actually were. Only fairly recent, high-end builds would really qualify as "already meeting the spec." I have a box I paid $3400 for, but it won't power the Rift, because it's an Amiga 3000. See what I mean? Also, the estimate was 72M by 2015. 6M sales per year doesn't really strike me as a lot, but again, I have no idea how much attrition and/or upgrading they're assuming in the process, if any.
I'd be more interested to know how many 970s Nvidia have actually sold. I'm guessing they don't share that information?
It wouldn't cost Sony nearly $350 to build DK2s on a mass scale. It probably doesn't even cost them that much to build an entire PS4, and a headset is far less complex than that.