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Wired Morpheus Pre-E3 preview - mentions new Guerrilla game, Trackmania VR, Harmonix
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Shin-Ra
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I don't think it's Shu that's lacking in understanding of the English language.
lol.
And that's fine, at least the base price of entry should be reasonable. I'm sure a lot of people would be fine with just playing using a DS4 and maybe getting a camera.
IAmRandom31
Banned
you are living in some weird dream world if you think a VR device of any kind will be less then $200. That is one expensive piece of equipment on your head. How many companies do you want to go bankrupt?
If sony did $299 they would likely be losing 100+ per unit
If you're especially prone to motion sickness, then unfortunately VR may indeed aggravate that rather easily. Will depend on the app, though.
biglittleps
Member
I think Sony will not announce price at E3, they might be announcing at PSX instead as they are targeting Q2 2016. They will demo games just like Oculus without price.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Just Add Water's still-unannounced project appears to be for PS4/Vita btw.
http://www.jawltd.com/project/unannounced-2/
http://www.jawltd.com/project/unannounced-2/
Final Verdict
Member
Hmmm....
"several" means
"more than two but not many."
But could be that it was just a mistake by shu. Is English his first, or second language?
"several" means
"more than two but not many."
But could be that it was just a mistake by shu. Is English his first, or second language?
a secret-boss
Banned
now GAF is dissecting the word. LOL
conference needs to come already
conference needs to come already
Don't know how many languages he knows but English is most definitely not his first.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
How would saying it's more than two(hundred) be a mistake?
Neuromancer
Member
$500? For just the HMD? No way. That's crazy. This cant cost as much as, let alone more than, the PS4 itself.
It probably wont, but I'm just prepped for reality to hit whenever that price is announced.
That screen and whatever extra hardware is in the Morpheus can't be shoe-string. It's also supposed to be comfy and a little sexier than something like Oculus. Less utilitarian, if that makes any sense.
panda-zebra
Banned
Don't agree. Sony is in the unique position of having a closed market - same principle as selling consoles at cost and earning from software sales. Tracking solutions have different pricing levels. It's just not that simple.
Sony might look to earn early on from hardware - why not, demand is there, no point leaving money on the table. But a little further down the line a price cut to stimulate wider adoption and a more cost-based pricing, then I can't see the three setups comparing price-wise at all.
Uninformed nonsense.
In the longer term for mass adoption I agree. Early days I'd expect it'll sell all they can make at almost any price.
The whole resurgence of VR came about because the tech required for acceptable results became affordable enough to make happen.
pfffft everyone knows several comes from the world seven
loaf of bread
Member
People please Several does not mean fucking seven
It means 2-3.
It means 2-3.
it should be obvious that the price will be in line with the current cost of a ps4 ..
right from day one sony have said the morpheus is a platform ... not an accessory like PS move was ... a platform.
so expect a platform like price.
i think it'll be within $50 of PS4 ... either side of that ... and that's fine by me.
right from day one sony have said the morpheus is a platform ... not an accessory like PS move was ... a platform.
so expect a platform like price.
i think it'll be within $50 of PS4 ... either side of that ... and that's fine by me.
qa_engineer
Member
Thankfully I already have two move controllers and the PS camera already. The only thing is that the move controllers use mini usb as opposed to micro usb.
I dont expect a price here, either. Too far out still.
I think it also depends on how many/whether controllers are required. If it requires a camera and two move controllers as standard, then a package of $399 for all 4 pieces is reasonable. But $399 or even $299 alone seems steep.
I consider $300-$400 to be very affordable.
$200 is obviously cheaper, but that's when I get skeptical about just getting something cheap when it could be better. People anticipating $199 are in for a rude awakening.
Trackmania?
Oh man, imagine this in VR:
Never saw this before. That gif is insane. Thanks for posting it.
Pop
Member
Well if he said two, the thread title would be completely different. Sony doesn't want to give away the price yet.
Lemonte
Member
WooHooAlex
Member
I think I remember reading a quote from someone at Microsoft stating that it would cost "significantly more than an Xbox One"
That's not an exact quote, but I believe it was something along those lines.
$300-$1000 is generally considered an "affordable" range for most consumer electronics.
When people say that this technology is finally affordable, then mean it in comparison to $10,000 rigs and universities and research centers. They do not mean it in comparison to a Playstation 4.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I don't see it taking off if it costs a PS4 and 300-400 additional dollars. It is limited as it is already. This will be DOA in that case. Even more so if that price tag is just for the headset and doesn't include the Move controllers. This will be similar to Microsoft's E3 2013 DRM fiasco (in terms of misreading the market only) except that no one is forced to accept it.
panda-zebra
Banned
You suggested $499. That kind of pricing and upwards seems sensible for PC-based VR setups, as a console add-on I'd think that was beyond reasonable.
I was speaking in terms of the components that go to make VR happen. Sony's solution does not seem to be in any way over-engineered from what I've read. There's little right now to suggest the headset would be anything in the region of $499 (as he suggested) to $1000 (as you offered as your upper affordable ceiling above).
If it's $300 + the cost of a PS4 (let's assume $350 by the time it hits) you're looking at ~$650.
Quote from Oculus CEO:
That'd put Morpheus at less than half the cost of the Oculus. It'd be a steal.
I think $299 - $399 is more and more likely, but I wouldn't be shocked if unforeseen costs drive it up to $499. This isn't just a camera and controller- it's a headset on top of BOTH of those.
It's not a console add-on, it's a new platform, even Sony said that.
WooHooAlex
Member
I agree, There's no point in them showing their hand yet.
Let Oculus and Vive announce their $399 and $499 price points first, then you undercut those by $100-$200 and look like the good guys of VR.
Just announce some games and apps at E3.
giant_frying_pan
Member
Trackmania?! Yes please!
panda-zebra
Banned
That's pedantic semantics. Of course they're differentiating it as another platform - that only goes how seriously they are taking things.
You won't be able to go buy a Morpheus headset, camera and controller and have it do anything without a ps4, therefore, add-on.
Or fishing for ideas of how much they'll be able to get away with initially maybe.
Point-blank: how much do you expect the Morpheus headset, standalone, to cost?
You can't honestly expect it to be $199.
People keep saying this, but that's not really how it's going to go down. The markets for these headsets *exist* already. There are millions of existing PS4 owners out there and there are millions of PC gamers out there with rigs that meet the recommended Oculus specs already(and even more will upgrade over the next year to reach that).
These are who these headsets will be targeted at primarily. And the price difference wont be that big between them. I dont foresee a ton of people who have nothing suddenly going, "Oh hey, let me go spend $700 just to play some VR", either. They aren't going to see that as a 'steal'. I think the 'average non-gamer' market is going to be hard to crack til prices come down in general. But that's ok.
Hmm?
I whole-heartedly agree. I think some people are looking at the cost of a PS4 as some metric to measure the Morpheus against, and the same with a powerful PC and Oculus. If you go by that logic, you end up thinking in terms of "accessories" for $400 and $1000 boxes, and that's silly.
Morpheus and Oculus are going to be similar devices on a hardware level and priced similarly, I bet, just like you're saying.
At the end of the day, a person would have to be in denial if (s)he chose to interpret "several hundred dollars" as meaning $200 or less.
Yoshida would not be doing press interviews if he didn't know how to choose his words carefully.
I use "several" when describing women I'm seeing....to the fellas.
but I'm specific and use the word "Two" when I'm called out by a new woman I meet, and she asks how many women am I seeing.
Shu, would've been in a tough spot if he used the word "few". Few can be subjective. And any price that might be cheap or fair for some of us...well Shu might get blasted and when that is not "a few" for others.
With the word several, he is telling the truth no matter what.....be it $200 or $399.
but I'm specific and use the word "Two" when I'm called out by a new woman I meet, and she asks how many women am I seeing.
Shu, would've been in a tough spot if he used the word "few". Few can be subjective. And any price that might be cheap or fair for some of us...well Shu might get blasted and when that is not "a few" for others.
With the word several, he is telling the truth no matter what.....be it $200 or $399.
