Pretty much the only country that might save the thing is the US like it's always been. ;P
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Xbox One distributor reports losses as sales fail to pick up in China
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Pretty much the only country that might save the thing is the US like it's always been. ;P
The consoles themselves have to be activated through BesTV.
If you just have an Xbox Live account you cannot get through the initial setup.
http://www.bestv.com.cn/index.php?m=content&c=index&a=lists&catid=218
At the very least they are customizing the software load on the console.
You also have programming costs (delivering content via IPTV) that other regions don't have on the Xbox One.
Is a pure "distributor" going to be delivering movies, providing developer support, signing deals to get exclusives, etc.?
I remember my brother and I talking to a guy we knew and we started talking about the japanese tsunami and this guy starts laughing and going on about "those stupid Chinese people" and my brother and I just look at each other for a second then we correct him and say were talking about Japan and he nods like 'Yeah..I know' and then resumes laughing about the Chinese and then starts talking about pearl harbor. We just walked off and then ignored the guy from then on until he figured out that we wanted nothing to do with him.
SwiftDeath
Member
No that wouldn't be pure distribution however if in fact that subsidiary only handles operations, be that distribution, certification, software development, that pertain to the XB1 then any loss that subsidiary sustains would still be attributed to the XB1's performance in China.
It is at least possible that subsidiary does something for some other product or service line other than XB1 in some capacity although I do find it very unlikely.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
The Xbox doesn't need saving, but it DOES need evaluating. MS can keep the Xbox game going as long as they want to, the question is, is it worth it for them to do that?
I've always felt Microsoft would've made a tremendous software publisher. Going into hardware was a bad idea for them.
Chobel
Member
Quoting this for the new page, the division is only about Xbox One.
I laughed.
I will take ZhugeEX word for it. I cant translate that PDF. So if ZhugeEX is right we know that the division lost money in the launch quarter. Still dont know anything new about units sold good or bad.
demigod
Member
If anything, it would sell twice more easily.
If its a joint venture with ms, how are they losing so much money? Not like they're buying a million xboxes and not able to return it.
It mentions "Exceeding" 100,000 units sold in.
But tbh grey market will still count for a lot.
Xbox 360 for example is estimated to have sold in 450k in 2005/2006 across grey market. The sales were quite high due to modded 360 being available and low price.
We know official sales of Xbox One are over 100k+ but we don't know grey market sales. I'll be honest though, due to price and lack of mods I doubt grey market sales for Xbox One will be great.
Even so, all the big players have to try. China is the second biggest country in the world by video game revenue, and everyone wants a piece of that pie. The PS4 has a much better reputation in Asia, so it should do better than the Xbone. However, its sales in the first couple of years will still be modest. And if the Chinese gaming population can be convinced into buying into console gaming price structures, there's a chance it can take off.
Yeah like he said. XBox division is not the group ad you just pointed out.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Asians hate Xbox even more than the number 4 or sleeping with the fan on.
Unknown Soldier
Member
I wonder where those people who kept on saying the Bone was going to win because of China are now
I understand this reference.
I wonder how much this lack of sales has to do with the Chinese government forcing MS to lockdown/region lock the X-box 720 to where the Chinese couldn't import non-censored titles.
It's easily obtainable through the grey market anyway. The Playstation 4 will have the same problem when it launches in China, I only expect it to sell around 5 times as much as the Xbox One has sold and to be equally dwarfed by the grey market
El-Pistolero
Member
Hahahahahahaha! Oh boy! Great reference right there.
Freeman
Banned
The Xbox would have made way more sense if MS was committed to bridging console and PC, if this was ever their intention they were just too slow about doing it, they pretty much got schooled by Valve as a result, now not only must they compete against Sony and Nintendo but also Valve.
But they love that MS operating system.
Industrialist
Member
Ignoring people who think that a console which will end up with a 70million+ installed base needs to be "saved", perhaps?
The do not see the benfits of the consoles, they're way more strict and do not feature a lot of games for a good price.
Better have a pc, you can play way morte games for cheaper money expecially there.
I mean consoles doesn't even make sence here in the west, they're currently so uneccessary.
Better have a pc, you can play way morte games for cheaper money expecially there.
I mean consoles doesn't even make sence here in the west, they're currently so uneccessary.
Industrialist
Member
It is a massive amount to do with this. Why buy a console that's restricted as hell for only a few dollars less than an imported one that will allow you to do everything that you can do on a US version? My Chinese friends had Xbox Ones and PS4s a week after they hit the stores in the US.
But man, seriously - "X-box 720" - we've known the name for a good three years now, have we not?
Frankly, anybody who reported that China was going to "save" any console needs to have their credentials revoked.
Industrialist
Member
Probably playing and enjoying a game, I would imagine.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Can we get a Chinese flag and a crying eagle pic.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
Probably In your imagination
Solaire of Astora
Death by black JPN
BlackBuzzard
Banned
You are being optimistic im saying 50 tops.
Freeman
Banned
Sorry but that just ain't gonna happen. The Xbox had to drop below 350$ and bundle more than one game to keep pace at pretty much the only region it stands a chance.
If you can't face the reality of how unsuccessful Xbox has been so far it seems you are more invested in console wars than the people you accuse.
El-Pistolero
Member
I have more chances winning a Ferrari that MS has reaching the number you wrote. Not happening...
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
You know if MS had beaten Valve to the "Steam punch" they could've really went places.
They should've focused on that over a console.
MS could've made a killing marketing a "Steam-like" platform to major competitors like Nintendo, Sony, hell even Sega back in the day.
Nightengale
Member
FWIW, the memory of my debate with Hindle over how he thinks MS should have a chinese character in Halo 5, and his optimism about how China will respond better to the brand than most would assume is still one of the funnier memories of my time in GAF.
Nothing1016
Member
Not a chance. The only consoles with a possibility to break the 70M+ threshold will be the PS4 and maybe the 3DS.
MS could have beaten Valve to the "Steam punch" but it never would have been with a Steam like service. It would have been with GFWL. MS would absolutely not approve of many of Steam's policies with respect to digital games.
3rdamention
Member
Holy Shit, I get the reference.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
Member
Pretty sad I have seen X1 fans here on Gaf banking on the Chinese market to help boost X1 sales globally and so far that sadly hasn't been the case.
360 managed to reach 85+ after utterly decimating the PS3 in the US and winning the UK.
How the hell is the Bone going to match that when it lost both territories? Keep dreaming.
juicyfruitas
Member
well if the bone has already surpassed 100k unit sales in china then that far exceeds their sales total to date in Japan.
At the very least it's a sliver of positivity in a region they're having a difficult time gaining traction.
At the very least it's a sliver of positivity in a region they're having a difficult time gaining traction.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
DanteGhost
Member
Am I missing a joke in the first page? 1% of 1 billion is 10 million. Please explain!
Or is that the joke?
1st Course
Member
The Tech in Asia article mention that less than 200 XB1s were sold on Tmall last month. If you don't know Tmall it is a major online retailer with hundred of millions of users, it has even higher rank on Alexa than eBay.
