bitbydeath
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17.7M is from January 360 should have well surpassed 18M by the time it reached April.
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Xbox One has sold 18 million units worldwide, eSports CEO reveals
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17.7M is from January 360 should have well surpassed 18M by the time it reached April.
AnthonypUK
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Worse than i thought, expected it to be 21-22m by now
Makes sense though, since they have dropped the X% over 360 in their PR the last few months, also add in anther "temporary" price drop and Retailer trade in details, it all hangs together.
Makes sense though, since they have dropped the X% over 360 in their PR the last few months, also add in anther "temporary" price drop and Retailer trade in details, it all hangs together.
Well, when you release a US-centric console and base part of it´s appeal in US-exclusive deals/features it´s hard for it to appeal to someone outside of the US. Add to it all that bullshit about 1st and 2nd tier countries and you´ve put yourself in a precacious position outside of your hometown.
If someone is trying to sell me something, but at the same time is telling me I´m a 2nd degree client, he can f*ck off.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Yeah....these numbers don't sound right.
AnthonypUK
Member
the problems is with no official sold through numbers, we don't know whats a low or high guess, we can't even have a ball park figure with no shipped numbers.
And this pretty much sums up why it will be a long time, if ever, Xbox will ever become a solid WW brand.
Too many missteps and bad will.
It rivals the Hope in an NX thread.
travisbickle
Member
Every figure has been an estimate, we don't know for sure if this figure or previous ones have been accurate.
It's all about estimating how well it's sold outside USA.
JimJamJones
Member
2nd place is the first loser.
I wouldn't compare people hoping that a successor to a console without AAA third party game support "crushes it" and/or will greatly hurt consoles with solid third party support to people who are stating that this figure seems a bit low by 2-3 million.
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Makes sense then.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
The fact they don't tells you all you need to know.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
I think its fair to say, no matter the number of consoles sold, its near enough 2:1 for the PS4 now.
There is really no way for Microsoft to recover this generation, all they can do is make it profitable.
There is really no way for Microsoft to recover this generation, all they can do is make it profitable.
Agreed. This gen is really looking like it will end up similar to the 5th gen when it comes to market share.
Wii U (especially with NX coming) = Saturn
Xbox One = N64
PS4 = PS1
It's very obvious they are not the market leader and it seems like on every NPD thread or worldwide tracking sales we hear that it is doing very favorably when compared to the incredibly successful 360. So, why is MS not touting these numbers?
As long as it stays profitable going forward. I don't think generations is even a thing anymore?
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Exactly. If it WAS doing better then why not show it is?
Because they are still far behind the PS4; They would rather have people who don't greatly follow up on sales think the Xbox One is doing better than it actually is in comparison to the PS4.
This 18 million figure being off by 2-4 Million would still mean "far behind PS4".
Because what good would it do? And they changed their whole model. How do you account for PC's?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
There will still be generations of hardware. There will just be mid generation refreshes.
Not sure about that. What the difference? If it keeps refreshes where the next gen and why? Whats the point?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
So we've had 7 generations of Iphone in 8 years?
Audioboxer
Member
This is why Sony can be bullish and attempt the PS4 Neo. They're on top and that gap of around 2:1 isn't closing in a few months just because a Neo reception may end up lukewarm.
My thinking too. Cause the impression I get is it is doing better than the 360 and that is crazy good.
Thing is, it could be at around 23-25 million which would be amazing. Unless the sales are actually worse than we think, I'm surprised that they wouldn't reveal it. I think Sony did the same with the PS3? I don't recall...
When we look back at everything MS had to do since day one to achieve these numbers, profits are most likely a non factor.
Audioboxer
Member
It hasn't sold 5~7 million units since January. Even just looking at NPD figures in the homeland of the USA tells you this. It's being outsold in all of Europe, even including the UK.
Dash_Riprock
Member
Is it even possible for the xbone to reach even half of 360 sales (~40 million) now?
The last few NPDs strongly suggest its sales peaked last year and its all downhill from here.
The last few NPDs strongly suggest its sales peaked last year and its all downhill from here.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
18,000,000 + 1, I just bought one to play Quantum Break.
I would say so if there's a new model that will sell to both new people and people who already own an Xbox One as well as Holiday sales continuing on being higher as the (relevant current gen) years go by.
Audioboxer
Member
Of course, cheap pricing is key. Sales will pickup for all companies once prices get down to $199.
Newtype-001
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This got me good
Beautiful Ninja
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ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
No. A generation is each numbered update. The 3 looks drastically different from the 4, the 5 from the 4 the 6 from the 5.
but each update has had a refresh of hardware.
Dash_Riprock
Member
I still can't believe the PS3 and 360 haven't hit $199 after a decade.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Yes. Which is why we are seeing a move to higher priced SKUs with first party value adds.
Audioboxer
Member
360 should have been able to. CELL continues to haunt Sony.
You got any estimations for that or just straight out of your ass? The XB1 won't be reaching 23 million until the end of October 2016 at the earliest.
Anyway, these figures are definitely too low. But it seems like this data is as of January, which sounds reasonable. The XB1 should be around 20 million by now.
Beautiful Ninja
Member
The process shrinks which are just starting to hit now are usually the main reason for these type of SoC's to be able to get price reductions, to my understanding. With how difficult the transition away from 28nm has been for basically everyone and the ever creeping physics barriers on how small we can shrink these components, it's going to get more difficult to get massive price cuts on hardware over the years.
Dash_Riprock
Member
Jeez, I still remember the glory days of 2005 when Sony envisioned the Cell being in all their electronics from TVs to camcorders.
All that R&D down the drain.
Audioboxer
Member
Well it almost destroyed the company. Kaz then assassinated Ken Kutaragi.
I was being a bit optimistic due to the temporary price cut and offers.
C'mon now, no need to be rude ;D no estimations, it was a flat out guess. But if this article is as old as January, isn't it possible it sold 3-5 million since with the offers it is getting in many regions?
Audioboxer
Member
Add up the NPD sales and that is the bulk. It's not selling better in Europe or Japan than it is in America.
Ricky Ricardo
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STOP USING PHONES AND COMPONENTS ARE EXAMPLES
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