SE want to revitalize the console scene earnestly, that's why they are investing so much into the one platform that is doing the best. And PS3 which a lot of people still have. Its easy to see it as PS4/PS3 at this point.
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Yuji Horii: Dragon Quest 11 will be an offline game, for home consoles
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SE want to revitalize the console scene earnestly, that's why they are investing so much into the one platform that is doing the best. And PS3 which a lot of people still have. Its easy to see it as PS4/PS3 at this point.
With the Wii U you have to develop the game with the touchpad in mind, which eats up resources in of itself since you're effectively running the game with two different screens. Plus there's also the possibility that Sony gain exclusivity rights to Dragon Quest Heroes (and considering it's coming to Vita, that's likely the case).
OrbitalBeard
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I'm not disagreeing with that at all.
It's still funny to see people shocked at even the idea that DQXI could be on a Nintendo platform.
I actually think NX makes the most sense for DQXI, as it's going to be sold in both a home console and handheld form (most likely, anyway). It would be the best of both worlds for DQ. Probably not happening though, as this game is likely pretty far along in development.
Pennywise83
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They had a worldwide approach on PS2 and DS as well, and they got little in return.
So you started saying that the Wii U is the correct choice because the install base are bigger than PS4 but now releasing DQH 2 on Vita is due to Sony moneyhats, Ok...
Well I hope everyone is happy when they announce the platforms. Hopefully it's PS3/PS4/NX(console)/WiiU. Honestly sick of the bickering of whether or not Nintendo or Sony have DQ. I just want the series to do well so SE continues to focus on home consoles and keep their mainlines there. Would be tragic to see the 11th mainline installment fail commercially.
MatrixMan.EXE
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Even with this long winded explanation I don't know how you can possibly be so sure that the game ending up on Wii U, exclusively no less, instead of PS4/PS3 or 3DS, when there is absolutely nothing that suggests this to be a possibility or even remotely plausible.
You don't seem to realise that cash means nothing if your console is selling poorly. Nintendo aren't at liberty to be making deals for DQXI exclusively on Wii U. The Wii U needs it more than Square Enix needs the Wii U.
It won't be a Wii U game.
Again, you don't build a market overseas overnight. Let me put it this way - do you think MH4U would have done as well as it did in NA/EU if MH3U hadn't released in 2013? If Square Enix can actually start releasing DQ games consistently overseas then they might start seeing that return.
NX is a completely unproven entity in any regard, we as speculators don't even know what it is. Wii U is a failure for anything that isnt Nintendo related.
I think if it were to come to any Nintendo platform, it would be 3DS. But i doubt that as well, since that means redoing the entire game for that handheld's level of power. If they wanted to go the easy path in regards to Japanese only fanbase, i'm assuming they would have just made it on 3DS to start.
However you may feel, all I'm saying is do not expect the game to be some type of high budget, next gen game or else history will repeat itself and people will get disappointed yet again. Just like they did when Dragon Quest 9 and 10 was announced. People thought those games were going to be on PS3/360 and guess what? They weren't.
If you read the interview in French, they specifically talk about what it was like to develop for the PS4 with Dragon Quest Heroes. They decided to downport the thing to PS3 late in development, so they suggest the final product took true advantage of the PS4, and was not held back by cross gen development.
You can get some idea of where they are intending to take the mainline series from there.
You can get some idea of where they are intending to take the mainline series from there.
OrbitalBeard
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I really don't think it'd hit 3DS at this point. If it were a 3DS game, it probably would have been announced by now.
By the way, again, I don't think DQXI is coming to NX. I think it's very likely to be on PS3 and PS4. I just think NX would make the most sense going by the current Japanese market, due to it likely being available in both a handheld and home console form. Obviously, this is speculation, but most of the rest of this thread is as well.
Depends on when it comes out, what moves Nintendo does with the WiiU/Splatoon this holiday, and what the handful of meaningful PS4 releases accomplish in Japan this year and when/if/what anything starts releasing next year.
Splatoon has stopped the gap contraction dead in its tracks for near two months.
freeofgreed
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People are still doubting that this is coming for consoles even though several people have point out that that's explicitly what he said? I'm 99.999% certain that this isn't coming out on anything other than PS3 and/or PS4.
KoopaTheCasual
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If you said that a couple months ago in Media Create, you'd be outright laughed at, and yet here we are. Splatoon really is doing magic for the Wii U in Japan.
demosthenes
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This makes me really happy.
But as others have pointed out, it's not explicitly what he said, it was something inferred by the interviewer, unless a much more official translation has been released that I missed at some point.
SolidSnakex
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Obviously talking about the 3DSLL! Screen is quite big.
I already talked about this earlier as well. Here's my post about it:
I'm not saying that it won't come to consoles, but this really isn't a "confirmation" of it, nor is the comment you mentioned. People are just so jumpy on the subject, they want any bit of information.
natureboy46
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I'm so ready for a new DQ. I'd love to see it on ps4 but I would be happy enough to have it on WiiU.
Don't really want to play a game that big on a handheld...but I will if I have to.
Don't really want to play a game that big on a handheld...but I will if I have to.
Come on now.
I mean, sorry? Am I wrong? Does anything there or here explicitly say "home consoles?" Has there been an official translation of this interview were Hori explicitly specified home consoles (a serious question, because I may be wrong). Again, you guys get too jumpy about this subject.
I don't think anyone is disputing that here, the discussion is more focused on whether the consoles in question will be home console, handheld, or both.
Horii has been saying DQXI will be on the big screen.
I don't know what else he could say without outright announcing the game officially.
hurricanes
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My PC which got a very high score on their benchmark test has screen tearing and frame rate problems, and I am not alone. So those issues have more to do with their lack of optimization.
Bitanator
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I agree this time, I want a grand epic that has better writing and more charm than the dull Ni No Kuni, Dragon Quest can deliver that.
In the full version of DQ10 PC I get a solid 60 FPS basically everywhere unless I'm in a very, very populated area like Megastolis. But that's normal for an MMO, no matter how it looks.
He (Horii) want it to be on "big screen"
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The newest patch (3.0b) has draw distance option for PC and WiiU
said goodbye to Megistolis lag
I'm not saying that DQXI won't be on consoles, but that statement doesn't say that it will neccessarily be on big screens, it goes back to what I said here:
And you guys can lower your shields haha. I'm not saying that DQXI absolutely won't come to consoles, just that there's not really confirmation of it, yet, nor confirmation that it will be exclusively home console based and not on a handheld as well.
SolidSnakex
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But your comment doesn't actually address what he's referring to when he says big screen if he's not referring to consoles. If he's not referring to a console, then what is he referring to? We now have two comments from him as far as platforms go, one saying that he wants to play it on a big screen and the other saying that it'll be on consoles. It's easy to see why people would think that it would be on home consoles after that. And that's not confirmation bias when you combine those two things. Could it be on a handheld? Obviously, I mean if you look at the recent DQ8 announcement it's not hard to see why that's still a possibility. But there's no doubt that Horii has hinted quite heavily at it being released on home consoles this time around.
Dragon Quest games are typically announced at their own events, so they could announce it literally at any time.
hurricanes
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Interesting. Are you on the "highest quality" setting?
Yes, everything's maxed out.
You miss my point. He may not even be giving "hints" about what platform the game will even end up on. I'm not sure what the context of the whole interview, but he could just giving his personal preference, even if means he may make another business decision. It goes back to what I said about people treating everything a producers says as some kind of puzzle that must be solved.
I mean, hell, if you want to go deep into that comment, he says he wants to play it on a big screen, but he doesn't say he wants to play it on big screen instead of a small screen, so the possibly of a cross console-handheld release is still possible.
Like OrbitalBead said, it's kind of crazy how some of you think it's like some kind of literal impossibility that DQXI could wind up on a handheld or Nintendo platform. I'm not saying it will or won't, I'm mainly just addressing the fact that people are treating a lot of things as gospel right now when we don't have anything official as of yet.
sublimit
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Oh i see thanks. I really hope they officially announce it before the end of this year.Hopefully with a trailer.
old
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Noooooooo! I wanted to see Japan further undermine their own biggest franchises by switching them to dying genres on dying platforms.
An MMO in 2012? On the Wii?!...The Wii in 2012?! Now that's a commitment to seppuku. That's a level of self-sabotage that would make even an English football team jealous. (They just beat Germany while I typed this but I'm keeping the line.)
You've got to follow this through Horii. Stick to the plan. FarmVille peaked in like 2005, a decade ago right? Perfect. DQ11 needs to be FarmVille clone exclusively on the PSP Vita, Blackberry, and the OUYA platforms.
An MMO in 2012? On the Wii?!...The Wii in 2012?! Now that's a commitment to seppuku. That's a level of self-sabotage that would make even an English football team jealous. (They just beat Germany while I typed this but I'm keeping the line.)
You've got to follow this through Horii. Stick to the plan. FarmVille peaked in like 2005, a decade ago right? Perfect. DQ11 needs to be FarmVille clone exclusively on the PSP Vita, Blackberry, and the OUYA platforms.
sublimit
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For you.
hurricanes
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hurricanes
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You can change the camera for top down view(hehe)
I prefer full 3D entries.
Agree on the second point though.
Palette Swap
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To be fair, they inferred it from the fact portables don't use controllers.
I know we can go back and forth like this indefinitely but my point is, even if a bit was lost in translation, this just adds to the pile of signs of Horii wanting a DQXI on home consoles. While we're discussing details, I feel we're missing the bigger picture and the message Horii conveys here: he's designing games with specific formats in mind and for DQXI, he wants a controller and a big screen.
I'm insisting on his will because we collectively tend to reduce DQ to the old "wherever it will sell" but if they were driven by current market dynamics, they'd go mobile. Except that's not the game he wants to make.
I have no idea how they'll balance this out economically and this might sound like a vanity project but the guy has been making them lots of money for almost thirty years so he's probably got some leeway.
That doesn't necessarily exclude a portable downport or any home console, mind you.
Also, if they feel the interview was not faithful and jumped to conclusions, I'm certain SE can issue a statement.
On an unrelated note, I'm curious to see if Horii's "some small things might happen" about remakes is going to pay off in next week's announcement as the interviewer hypothesizes.
Right, as well as him specifying DQIX as being on a portable and DQXI as simply console (I believe you were the actually the one who clarified that for me earlier maybe? Memory fails me).
And that's fair. Like I said, I'm not trying to devalue the idea of DQXI coming to a console. I think there's real possibility, but I think it's always best to er on the cautious side when it comes to information that isn't super clear and explicit. Too easy to set one's self up for disappointment in doing that.
If it's coming next year (big if) then no. It'd have to do about 12k more than WiiU on average each week. Right now it can just barely reach that number alone; ignoring WiiU sales totally. It will take a long time to close the gap.
And PS3 will be very old even by Dragon Quest-standard by the time it launches, so spreading it out over all available platforms would make sense. Not saying it will happen though.
DangerMouse
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Yup!
As someone who says DQ8 is probably the best DQ game out there, this post has all my wuts
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