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Yuji Horii: Dragon Quest 11 will be an offline game, for home consoles
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Eh... Ghibli is super popular even in the west though and you could easily say Fire Emblem shows that 3DS has just a big a market for JRPGs in the west. Plus whilst it will relatively well in Japan it could still be two million down from DQIX.
It could do well and consoles are doing better than handhelds in general but I'm not sure JRPGs are going to benefit much.
Either way I think it's probably Asian markets that they're looking at more. PlayStation dominates there and their tastes are more closely aligned with JP.
*Facepalm
Already localized ports sure takes effort.
If DQ Heroes bombs, it's going to make them re-evaluate those prospects.
Kenzodielocke
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Are those remakes for the 3ds that are now confirmed to be localized ? New Thread?
Rising_Hei
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Even if it would hey more sales on 3DS, that's not the most important. Also DQ is the type of game that sells consoles on japan.
It's a matter of appretiation.
New Dragon Quest on 3DS? People would just think -> they are going cheap, spendind little with high return. no ambition aywhere.
New Dragon Quest on home console? gamers will feel that SE is finally going all out because making a BIG JRPG on the current gen is much harder and more ambitious. And since SE wants a change of image to the latter, it will be that for sure. Many people (myself included) feels the series doesn't exist since Dragon Quest VIII. I think it's time they ditch PS3 tho.
It's a matter of appretiation.
New Dragon Quest on 3DS? People would just think -> they are going cheap, spendind little with high return. no ambition aywhere.
New Dragon Quest on home console? gamers will feel that SE is finally going all out because making a BIG JRPG on the current gen is much harder and more ambitious. And since SE wants a change of image to the latter, it will be that for sure. Many people (myself included) feels the series doesn't exist since Dragon Quest VIII. I think it's time they ditch PS3 tho.
Well he didn't confirm they would be released on 3DS.
Palette Swap
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DQ I-III were relocalized so keep your facepalms to yourself, please.
Newtype-001
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Augemitbutter
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the real news here is that if console DQ11 is successful, others might follow and give turn-based RPGs a boost on consoles. i miss them.
Stairouais
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Stone Ocean
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Why do people think DQH is gonna bomb? It's coming out in a mostly uneventful month and Musou games are usually solid sellers.
WhiskerFrisker
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lol. At least they are providing reasons why it should be on it.
NipplesAndToes23
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Praise the Goddess.
As I was saying..
ShogunDarius
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wonder when they actually intend to announce them then?
We need a new thread asap... Oh shit, Megaton.
Something about how PS consoles have no rpg fanbase(which is absolutely bullshit), so all Jrpgs should be exclusive to 3DS instead.
Earthpainting
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Unless we see a press release or trailer that explicitly references 3DS, this could very likely be a mobile version. Hard to say without knowing the context. Is DQ8 already released in French on mobile?
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Just checked, and the version that was released was indeed already in French.
some of you keep bringing this argument. assuming it is on ps4 it is obvious they are taking a risk and who is to say it won't do better this time around? Gaming has a far bigger reach than it did back in the ps2/ds days. social media is huge, there are far better ways to market a game and get big sales. if a game like bloodborne or souls games for that matter can sell a little over a million outside japan in the first week then I don't see why a well marketed dragon quest game cannot do it as well. Console games get the most coverage whether you like it or not when it comes to the worldwide market and if square wants to make a big splash with regards to bringing it worldwide then ps4 is the most popular console currently.
weren't you one of the ones that were jumping up and down over sales of mh4 in the west? are you going to say it did well outside japan only because it is on 3ds? nintendo marketed it alongside a new version of their 3ds hardware and bundling it helped as well. more people started talking about how good the game is and hence it sold well.
if it is on ps4 then it going to be localized and Sony/Square are going to make a big deal out of it.
In business you have to take risks from time to time. you can't just sit back and say it didn't work out in the past so lets not try that again! If you naysayers turn out right and the game fails to garner good sales then they will just go back to smartphones/handhelds..... for the next decade....
Aarglefarg
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Having two different versions of DQ8 on mobile is unlikely.
Augemitbutter
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I don't see this being a bad thing. I'll take DQVII in English on any platform not called PS1.
ShogunDarius
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DQ7/8 could be any platform, including ps4, on a related note didnt someone from square enix say they wanted all the FF games eventually on PS4? if so its not hard to believe they would feel the same way about DQ. Either way I wanna play 8 again, I loved that game
Palette Swap
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Mobile wouldn't make sense. VIII is already out on mobile.
Or VII mobile and VIII 3DS but there's no way VIII 3DS isn't localized.
Or VII mobile and VIII 3DS but there's no way VIII 3DS isn't localized.
But Horii said French version..
I know if French version exists then same goes to English version
Maybe once they port it to PS4, but I think the localisation ship for that one sailed a long time ago. Which is a shame because I need to play it.
There isn't much risk taking at all... If I were to develop a console JRPGs for 2016 I would also aim for PS3 and PS4. It's the safest choice considering the current state and their recent announcements.
PS3/4 looking more likely again. Still weird they did DQVIII 3D rather than DQVIII HD then though.
Even with PS3 added DQXI won't be doing 4m+ in Japan this time, and it remains to be seen how much PS4 can really push the franchise past it's usual 1m+ in the west if at all (as PS4 isn't really tracking above PS2/DS either). Sales for Star Ocean, Persona and Tales might give us a better idea of how non-FF JRPGs can do on the system overseas.
Ni No Kuni shipped/digital was under a million in the west at last count but that was about a year ago and it was probably close at that point (~900k).
Even with PS3 added DQXI won't be doing 4m+ in Japan this time, and it remains to be seen how much PS4 can really push the franchise past it's usual 1m+ in the west if at all (as PS4 isn't really tracking above PS2/DS either). Sales for Star Ocean, Persona and Tales might give us a better idea of how non-FF JRPGs can do on the system overseas.
I have a weird feeling this is going to end up on Wii U or whatever NX becomes. It would blow my mind to see it on PS4 considering it'd be one huge risk for Square Enix and would go against how they've usually released Dragon Quest games. Going to be really fun to see wherever this game ends up.
I think that no matter where this game gets announced, there's gonna be some pissed off people rofl
I think that no matter where this game gets announced, there's gonna be some pissed off people rofl
Palette Swap
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Sorry for the multiposting but after the concerns you raised, I asked the interviewer/translator on Twitter and here's what he just replied:
So you were right in that Horii didn't say home consoles but he did mention "portable" when talking about DQIX and he also mentioned controllers. I guess that context made the interviewer confident enough to translate as home consoles.
Bots are better than you
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Yeah, the DQ on PS4 is already annoying enough, could we not fucking start this for the games that are 99.5% the remakes on 3DS? Is that possible?
On topic, I think it was mentioned already, but doesn't SQEX count the handhelds as consoles, too?
On topic, I think it was mentioned already, but doesn't SQEX count the handhelds as consoles, too?
MissDeviling
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Awesome. Please let us have proper party members with personalities this time, not silent user-creations.
Sure, I was talking about the west. Here non-FF (and I guess KH) JRPGs generally can't manage multimillions on consoles and that's probably what DQXI will need to sell to counterbalance the almost guaranteed loss of sales they'll face in Japan.
I was just using SO, Persona and Tales as examples to see if PS4 can push those series over what they sold on PS2/360+PS3.
NoKisum
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Because some publishers have high expectations in regards to sales. If it doesn't do Call of Duty or GTA V numbers, it's sometimes considered a failure.
I think Square would have a realistic expectation for a Musou game.
there's no articles so it's the general sense "for home consoles"..
I think you've got it right. Horii wouldn't just make such specification in a random interview.
But if he did, I guess SE could release DQXI for Wii U, PS3 and PS4 and they might get 3 million sales out of it in Japan.
Well it's hard not to imagine some level of improvement given the system's still tracking behind Dreamcast launch aligned. With those 3 games maybe it can bump things up to N64 level?
Garou
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Which would rise the next question, did he talk about physical controls (so not smartphones), or did he talk about actual controllers connected to a console. My guess would be the former, since I cannot picture a conversation where he need to be precise about the latter.
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Jpop
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I've seen Japanese developers refer to handheld as home consoles. It isn't as defined as console/handheld like on the West.
Edit: I've also seen tweets mentioning that he mentioned the 3DS in relation to the DQ8/7 localization.
Edit: I've also seen tweets mentioning that he mentioned the 3DS in relation to the DQ8/7 localization.
Pennywise83
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The decline of home consoles in Japan cannot be tracked down to just one game. PS3 had so many issues when it launched back in 2006 that the loss of Dragon Quest becomes irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
For example, PS1 was a successful platform and it got DQVIII in 2000, 6 years after it launched and after PS2 was released.
Dragon Quest =/= Final Fantasy. Those are just two completely different IPs with completely different appeals overseas. Final Fantasy X sold 4-5 million units in the West, Dragon Quest VIII barely a million... On PS2, by far one of the most successful platform for jRPGs.
There are ambitious games on handheld consoles as well. And there exists lazy titles on home consoles as well (Square Enix is quite renown for this).
I'm sorry for you the series hasn't existed for 11 years since plenty of great entries were released in the West in the meanwhile.
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