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New World of Warcraft Expansion reveal confirmed for Gamescom

I can't wait to play the new expansion for a month and then stop till the next expansion.

And honestly, why can't it be just that? I mean, as long as a dedicated base of subscribers are keeping the base going, why can't there be a subset of players like us who come back every expansion to sink our teeth into the world again for a short time before moving on? It's a great cycle that busy lives restrict us to.
 
And honestly, why can't it be just that? I mean, as long as a dedicated base of subscribers are keeping the base going, why can't there be a subset of players like us who come back every expansion to sink our teeth into the world again for a short time before moving on? It's a great cycle that busy lives restrict us to.

You know I never actually looked at it that way. I just wish that it has some kind of lasting impression on me in order to keep me coming back in between expansions.
 
And honestly, why can't it be just that? I mean, as long as a dedicated base of subscribers are keeping the base going, why can't there be a subset of players like us who come back every expansion to sink our teeth into the world again for a short time before moving on? It's a great cycle that busy lives restrict us to.

I stopped subscribing a while back. Now, I just buy the game time via the store whenever I wanna play. Very little commitment.
 
Did they ever backpedals on LFR tier sets? As a super casual player these days that was one of the things that killed WoD for me, not being able to get the welfare sets just for looks
 
Part of the reason I don't play is my server. The server with my friends on it is shit when it comes to pvp and that all I like to do end game. And I don't have time to invest in another server or the money to port my character.
 
Hmm.. Is there any way to sub from inactivity using on-character gold, or would I have to sub with real money and then buy tokens?

Yes. You can still login to the game and it will give you the option to buy a token. Just select the character who has enough gold and it should work.
 
Yes. You can still login to the game and it will give you the option to buy a token. Just select the character who has enough gold and it should work.

I was about to say that wasn't possible. Didn't know it was, that's very nice of Blizz to allow it.
 
I can only imagine what travesties holinka has thought up for pvp in the next xpac. Hopefully mages get heal spell, and warlocks get another teleport.
 
Boom.

I can't imagine Heavensward being worse than WoD to be fair, but A Realm Reborn was one of the worst MMOs I've played.

Heavensward is pretty good thusfar, am about halfway through the story. but all told it's just more of the same. It's worth paying to check out at some point imo.

Still, the basic game itself is just not as good so it baffles me why anyone who isn't stuck on a console would prefer it.
 
Mu momey is on AU Gul'dan going to the Tomb of Sargeras for an Azshara/South Sea expansion.

Just throwing it out there so that I can quote myself later.
 
Mu momey is on AU Gul'dan going to the Tomb of Sargeras for an Azshara/South Sea expansion.

Just throwing it out there so that I can quote myself later.

Ya cuz you came up with that one... only seen it mentioned 90,000 times on mmo-champ and in this very thread :P

All kidding aside, I think that's a super interesting way to take the story... but if pvp continues to be a pile of garbage I think I'll pass on this one.
 
Gnomes existed in Warcraft 2. The alliance submarine and copter units were Gnomish.

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Warcraft 2 HD... CMON BLIZZARD.

What's even left to do lore wise? You went to a different planet, killed the bad guy of the third game, saw the world get destroyed, met some pandas, and went through time. I guess the naga? The maelstrom, that's a thing right?
 
Warcraft 2 HD... CMON BLIZZARD.

What's even left to do lore wise? You went to a different planet, killed the bad guy of the third game, saw the world get destroyed, met some pandas, and went through time. I guess the naga? The maelstrom, that's a thing right?

Maelstrom was Cataclysm. You went into it to get to Uldum and fought Deathwing there.

What's left is the Naga, Zandalari Tribe, South Seas, the rest of the Old Gods and the rest of the Burning Legion. Those first three could be the same expansion, feasibly.

There's also Emerald Dream, Argus or my favorite - the bottom of the Ocean, hinted at by the fan favorite item Puzzle Box of Yogg-Saron which would probably be Old Gods (N'zoth) based -

At the bottom of the ocean even light must die
The silent, sleeping, staring houses in the backwoods always dream. It would be merciful to tear them down.
There is no sharp distinction between the real and the unreal.
Even death may die.
There is a little lamb lost in dark woods.
All places, all things have souls. All souls can be devoured.
What can change the nature of a man?
The stars sweep chill currents that make men shiver in the dark.
You will all be alone in the end.
Do you dream while you sleep or is it an escape from the horrors of reality?
Look around. They will all betray you. Flee screaming into the black forest.
In the land of Ny'alotha there is only sleep.
In the sleeping city of Ny'alotha walk only mad things.
Ny'alotha is a city of old, terrible, unnumbered crimes.
Y'knath k'th'rygg k'yi mrr'ungha gr'mula.
The void sucks at your soul. It is content to feast slowly.
The drowned god's heart is black ice.
It is standing right behind you. Do not move. Do not breathe.
Have you had the dream again? A black goat with seven eyes that watches from the outside.
In the sunken city, he lays dreaming.
Open me! Open me! Open me! Then only will you know peace.
You resist. You cling to your life as if it actually matters. You will learn.
The tortured spirits of your ancestors cling to you, screaming in silence. Apparently they are quite numerous.
The fish know all the secrets. They know the cold. They know the dark.
The giant rook watches from the dead trees. Nothing breathes beneath his shadow.
Beneath the shadow of the darkened spire, there is no light, no mercy, only void, and the chaos within.
 
Warcraft 2 HD... CMON BLIZZARD.

What's even left to do lore wise? You went to a different planet, killed the bad guy of the third game, saw the world get destroyed, met some pandas, and went through time. I guess the naga? The maelstrom, that's a thing right?

N'Zoth is still around somewhere, Sylvanas is plotting things, I guess there are a few loose threads.

Not sure we'll involve The Maelstrom this time. We used it before in Cataclysm to get to Deepholm, and then the final fight with Deathwing was based there too.
 
Also there's no counting out them just throwing something completely out there no one could guess as an expansion like Mists and just making a ton of shit up.

Which is fine because Mists is cool and not a retread

I don't think anyone really thought Warlords would be next. I didn't read War Crimes or any of that so maybe some people did, but time travel orcs is about as ridiculous as it gets, I hope.
 
Also there's no counting out them just throwing something completely out there no one could guess as an expansion like Mists and just making a ton of shit up.

Which is fine because Mists is cool and not a retread

I don't think anyone really thought Warlords would be next. I didn't read War Crimes or any of that so maybe some people did, but time travel orcs is about as ridiculous as it gets, I hope.

I love how the general attitude now is that MoP was a great xpac. People hated on it the entire time it was current content and now....

I always liked MoP myself, even if my class was kinda shit for end game content half of the time (DK).

I wonder if we'll look back on WoD with the same rose-tinted glasses... probably not, WoD honestly is a piece of garbage.
 
Prepare yourselves for even less launch content at an even higher markup.

Man I really hope not. This game still has a lot of life left in it if they play their cards right but I'm not sure how many people would actually stay if all the xpacs after this are WoD-like in their content drops.

I love how the general attitude now is that MoP was a great xpac. People hated on it the entire time it was current content and now....

I always liked MoP myself, even if my class was kinda shit for end game content half of the time (DK).

I wonder if we'll look back on WoD with the same rose-tinted glasses... probably not, WoD honestly is a piece of garbage.

The turn around on MoP is pretty much the opposite of WoD. People made panda jokes and shit but when WoD was announced people were super excited. Mists grew on people and WoD slowly just made people upset. Sure there were a lot of general missteps like the linear level design of dungeons/raids and things like Heart of Fear or the content drought after Siege sucked but it had cool lore, architecture, designs etc. By far the most unique expansion. I really like the Thunder King stuff, Isle of Thunder, Timeless Isle. Pandaria is probably my second favorite expansion continent, Northerend beign #1.
 
I love how the general attitude now is that MoP was a great xpac. People hated on it the entire time it was current content and now....

I always liked MoP myself, even if my class was kinda shit for end game content half of the time (DK).

I wonder if we'll look back on WoD with the same rose-tinted glasses... probably not, WoD honestly is a piece of garbage.

Always loved Mists and always will. It and Wrath are my favourite periods of the game, been playing since launch.

Cata is still worse than Warlords. They fucked up a lot of the old world revamp which is even worse than the year of the worst raid in the game's 11 year history or the awful cut off story lines or the shit 5 mans or the etc etc

The worst part of the 1-60 revamp was the experience reduction needed to get through it - so much content but you blast through a zone 2 levels before the game designed for it

Also they still made 45 to 55 suck. Hard.
 
I think I still dislike Cata more then WoD. I played Cata the most and WoD the least out of any content, though.

Dragon Soul was really shit and the Deathwing fight was super disappointing...the massive subscriber exodus during the content drought after DS was not surprising.

Cata is probably the most ambitious xpac but they kind of screwed the pooch. Abyssal Maw and the Neptulon stuff never even came out, still upset.

On the other hand I really like Archaeology and Cataclysm had some really good music.
 
I wonder if we'll look back on WoD with the same rose-tinted glasses... probably not, WoD honestly is a piece of garbage.

People don't look back at Cata as a great expansion and Warlords is far worse so I doubt it. As for Mists most of the people I remember complaining about it (especially on gaf) were people who were not even playing the game at the time so I tended to just ignore what they had to say anyhow and went on about my day.
 
I think I still dislike Cata more then WoD. I played Cata the most and WoD the least out of any content, though.

Dragon Soul was really shit and the Deathwing fight was super disappointing...the massive subscriber exodus during the content drought after DS was not surprising.

Cata is probably the most ambitious xpac but they kind of screwed the pooch.

Blizz even admitted to this being true. Redoing the entire vanilla world (apart from Silithus) was a huge undertaking.
 
Think Blizzard will upgrade the graphics engine to support DX12? They upgraded the engine back in Cata to DX11. Wouldn't that give a pretty huge boost in performance?
 
I just hope they do something so the professions don't feel as boring as in WoD. Seriously it felt like so much time was spent just waiting for daily cooldowns to get to max level and to buy new recipes than any other expansion I have played. Also I still don't understand the reasoning behind the removal of all professions perks and passives, did those really have any sort of drastic effect that hurt game balance? Same thing with the removal of the specializations (potion mastery, etc.), I did not like that change.

I did feel the new catchup mechanics were a decent addition, but overall I was not a fan of how this expansion handled professions. But then again, maybe I'm just still angry about alchemy being unable to make healing potions and the creation of healing potions in first aid requiring endless fishing.

What happened with the garrison system and professions happened because the main designer on wow right now was a hardcore raider. That's why everything funnels you into raiding. There's no need to go out and grind to make potions. No need to father anything because you can gather in your garrison. Need repair money? Run some missions. Everything in this expansion at 100 was built around you being able to do a few things in your garrison and then go right to a raid. That's why there isn't shit to do in the world after 100. It's why they said flying wasn't important (you can't fly in raids so why would you need to fly at all?) and why they gutted professions.

Until there is someone behind the helm that balances out the things to include more than just raiding WoW will continue to flounder. All 3 million of those people left because the leveling experience was great and then they had fuck-all to do after the hit 100 besides running a glorified Facebook game and running the same raid over and over and over.

Also, this thing where you do the same dungeon on multiple difficulties needs to be put down too. In previous expansions we got more raids, not more difficulty levels.
 
Ya cuz you came up with that one... only seen it mentioned 90,000 times on mmo-champ and in this very thread :P

Hey now! No one in this thread has mentioned Tomb of Sargeras as the missing link afaik. I felt pretty smug when I thought that up.
 
Fast turnaround but i'm fine with that. Echo what others said - i'll likely pick it up for a month and i'm cool with that.

Wasn't there a 7 day free pass recently? Might use that too to catch up on the content since Highmaul before new expansion hits.
 
I love how the general attitude now is that MoP was a great xpac. People hated on it the entire time it was current content and now....

I always liked MoP myself, even if my class was kinda shit for end game content half of the time (DK).

I wonder if we'll look back on WoD with the same rose-tinted glasses... probably not, WoD honestly is a piece of garbage.

I loved Mist from the Beta and my love kept increasing the more I played it, both beta and then release. The expansion looked fantastic and it was a lot of fun to play, with stuff to do outside of dungeons and raids that didn't burn me out like the garrison chores did in WoD.

I only stopped playing during MoP when the Beta for FF14ARR came out, so I missed most of the content drought after SoO, as such when I came back to WoW some months before WoD, MoP still felt fresh enough.

WoD has had the opposite effect on me, making me think it was a great expansion while I was leveling up and then slowly but steadily declining after hitting the cap.
I'll forever remember WoD as the selfie expansion, which says enough about how shallow the expansion is in reality, at least for me.
 
Good, hopefully they can put this shit expansion to rest quickly. I still feel like Cata was worse, but I'm not sure why. I mean at least Cata added Worgen and Goblins. What lasting impact will WoD have other than taking flying away?
 
I LOVE expansions. I don't know why but everytime a new one gets announced I get hyped for it. Like Destiny TTK or this (I don't even play WoW) or Heavenward for FFXIV!
 
Always loved Mists and always will. It and Wrath are my favourite periods of the game, been playing since launch.

Cata is still worse than Warlords. They fucked up a lot of the old world revamp which is even worse than the year of the worst raid in the game's 11 year history or the awful cut off story lines or the shit 5 mans or the etc etc

The worst part of the 1-60 revamp was the experience reduction needed to get through it - so much content but you blast through a zone 2 levels before the game designed for it

Also they still made 45 to 55 suck. Hard.

I dunno man, I kind of feel the opposite. I thought the old world revamp was direly needed and am overall pretty happy with how it turned out. The leveling speed making you only need to do like half of any given zone doesn't really speak to the quality of the zones themselves, it's just how the experience numbers are dialed. Since vanilla had so many dead-zones where you end up with a quest log full of red and grey quests, they went super conservative to make sure someone with 0% bonus xp would never run into a similar issue, which isn't a decision I can fault them for.

Knowing now that the old world revamp is at least partially responsible for the end-game issues of Cataclysm, I still think it was the right choice. It had to be done and they didn't half-ass it.

Also 45-55 is great, you cray. Swamp of Sorrows is right in that range, and it has that little quest line based on warcraft 1 and 2 battles!
 
Also 45-55 is great, you cray. Swamp of Sorrows is right in that range, and it has that little quest line based on warcraft 1 and 2 battles!

To be fair, Swamp of Sorrows is the only good zone for that whole range. 56-58 is kinda weak too, Blasted Lands has its moments but drags on too long in the beginning.
 
To be fair, Swamp of Sorrows is the only good zone for that whole range. Blasted Lands has its moments but drags on too long in the beginning.

I like Blasted Lands, but I think its technically right after that range so I didn't include it. I will admit that Burning Steppes is kind of a drag, though.
 
The more I think about it, the more I feel that WoD was a disappointment for me.

But I liked the hype and anticipation that lead up to it. The number squish was good and something that I would have liked to have seen a long time ago. This was a plus. The updated orc models were also a massive boon. The fact that they did not manage to get the blood elf models updated in a similar timely fashion felt odd. So odd in fact that once they did get around to updating my lovely blood elves, I no longer cared.

Once I had chugged myself through the majority of WoD questing, my game play devolved to logging on once every two days, assigning garrison missions and collecting rewards. That's it. I may have LFRed a couple of times, but mostly I just stopped playing altogether.

Following the 6.2 release, I have not logged on more than three times. I expect my guild has long since thrown me out.

Whatever they are doing with the new expansion, it has to be pretty special to reinvigorate my interest in this game.
 
Did they ever backpedals on LFR tier sets? As a super casual player these days that was one of the things that killed WoD for me, not being able to get the welfare sets just for looks

Well a bunch of them are now cooler looking than the "proper" sets.
 
This is going to be the longest 7 days of any wow fan. This expansion has to be so good it brings millions back. They have to be bleeding subs right now.
 
Jeez, I just realized that I haven't played WoW in over five years. The last time I played was when Cataclysm was released. I leveled a Worgen Hunter to 40 then I stopped playing altogether.

Maybe Kil'Jaeden will show up again. He hasn't been seen since The Burning Crusade, right?
 
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