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SNK is releasing a modern NeoGeo AES console
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Orionsangel
Neo Member
I'm so getting this! I love the Neogeo!
simpatico
Gold Member
Oh we need to hear more about the analog stage in this bad boy. I just want to make sure they didn't do anything stupid. Neo Geo carts are still insane on the pricing, but I've got a few rep carts in my SNES and Genesis stack that don't bother me to play. This thing looks lovely. I'm in for Metal Slug and Samurai Showdown without question. This just became the most anticipated console on the gaming market. I hope we get more specifics on the AV side of things, or even a picture of the IO...
Celcius
°Temp. member
Can we get the Amazon links added to the OP?
Accessories: https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/...8920ca5ae5400&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Console: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GXCGLBY...TVPDKIKX0DER&th=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=sec2002-20
Accessories: https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/...8920ca5ae5400&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Console: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GXCGLBY...TVPDKIKX0DER&th=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=sec2002-20
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Davevil
Late October Surprise
In Italy at the time, it was impossible to buy, but I managed to rent it for a long weekend with a friend. It was like bringing an arcade at home.
I will be able to afford one! 35 years later.
This is amazing, the white version is pretty sexy but not as nostalgic. I'm very close to pulling the trigger on the full bundle and It would be awesome with the retrotink 4k. Great collection piece to sit under the TV. More companies need to do this, there is a market for these. What a year for retro gaming.
Does anyone know 100% if the power suppy is a modern usb-c/a type power brick? or is it a traditional Neo Geo power supply.
Does anyone know 100% if the power suppy is a modern usb-c/a type power brick? or is it a traditional Neo Geo power supply.
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existensmaximum
Member
No analog RGB output?
Radical_3d
Member
70 dollar cartridges? What kind of bargain is this? In my country they were about 250-300€ of the 90s. So… 600€ of today's money?
WhamBamThankYouMaam
Member
So, perhaps I should just buy a really good stick instead and run with a good emulator? 
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
If only SEGA would do this for the Dreamcast and Saturn
Giallo Corsa
Gold Member
Back in the 90's, i was living in Greece and i knew only ONE guy that had a Neo-Geo which he had won from a contest or something, the guy had only ONE game during the console's lifecycle since the game cartridge prices were prohibitive at the time - we're talking about 300 Eurodollars in today's paper ffs...
Yes, it was like having an arcade at home but, there's a reason SNK later released the CD-based Neo-Geo which was way, way cheaper (the games too).
Regarding this re-release, sorry gents but even as an older guy that actually went throught that era, I just don't get it - 70€ for a game cartridge ? Almost 1000€ for the "complete package" ? Are you fucking kidding me ? why ?
People are being fussy with the upcoming next gen console's prices but apparently, spending almost the same money on a retro-console is OK ? Especially from the moment that you can get the Neo-Geo experience for peanuts these days...
Sure, were talking about emulation Vs real hardware here but still, It would be better to just make a new PC and grab a good arcade stick and have it as your retro-arcade machine...
Maybe it's about nostalgia but...even that has a price.
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MrCunningham
Member
The Neo-Geo AES was not a common thing to buy in Canada either, and it was really limited to specialty game shops. You couldn't walk into a department store and buy the system. The base unit was like $500- $600 dollars. games honestly could cost anywhere between $70 - $80 at the lowest end to $250.00 at the high end. It really came down to how many ROM chips were stuffed into each cartridge. The biggest AES games in terms of 'MEG's" were always the most expensive.
The easiest way to obtain an Neo-Geo AES back in the day was through mail order, and I guess SNK had a direct sales line too? In most cases, you had to order these systems from somewhat questionable 'back of the game magazine' mail-order retailers like Chips & Bits, Tommo, DieHard Gamers Club (associated with early Die Hard Game Fan) , Game Dude, etc. They would also love to do their own mark-up's to jack up the price. Shipping back then was not cheap. It took forever, like months for an item to arrive in the mail. Shipping insurance was mandatory. Just look at some of these prices.
Yes, the Neo-Geo CD was meant to alleviate the cost of games. But the trade-off was long loading times, and some games were actually missing animation and background layers due to the RAM restrictions. Despite the fact that the CD units had like 7MB of system RAM all in.
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Londo
Member
God I can't. But I could. But I can't.
If this is going to sell well we could enter into a true-retro-renaissance of consoles (and NOT the mini ones).
I'd re-buy instantly all the NEC ones, and SEGA. Fuck, the Lynx too.
Shame that only the in-house developed games could be reissued, I think.
If this is going to sell well we could enter into a true-retro-renaissance of consoles (and NOT the mini ones).
I'd re-buy instantly all the NEC ones, and SEGA. Fuck, the Lynx too.
Shame that only the in-house developed games could be reissued, I think.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Yeah this is pretty close to what I always wished for to happen. The only real criticism I have is the cartridge prices. At that price point, only die hard retro fans will bite. The games should be more accessible. Come on, they can't be that expensive to produce these days. The system would have a lot more mainstream appeal if they were like 40 or 30 instead of 70. What would make this whole project god tier is if SNK gave a shit making devs develop NEW games for the system and release them physically as well.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Back in the day that amount of storage was insanely expensive. These days… no
There is NO reason besides inflated fanboys they are priced as they are.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
The custom rom chips probably cost at least twice as much to make today as they did back then.
If you go look up how people are manufacturing things like the commander x16 and new c64 ultimate .. just the cost to put everything together is a lot more than it use to be.
baphomet
Member
Too many questions to spend money on it yet. The games should work on an original aes if they're as accurate as they claim. No mention of RGB, just AV. And who knows how good or bad the hdmi scaler will be. If they continue releasing games I'd also another big question.
I'm currently good with my MVS setup and games, but this could be interesting.
I'm currently good with my MVS setup and games, but this could be interesting.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
They don't plan to make it mainstream, and no one can seriously believe it could be mainstream when those ROMs can be bought on official online stores for peanuts today.
This is a luxury collector's item produced in limited quantity… more or less what the original NeoGeo was in its time. And yes, like
RoboFu
said, $70 is a steal for an actual, official collector's NeoGeo cart in this day and age. These days you're paying the same for a bunch of code that can be infinitely reproduced and played on every system under the sun.
MrCunningham
Member
Also, the modern carts that SNK plans on selling are not going to be like the original carts at all, unless they still have a stock pile of old mask ROM's from 2002 or something. But I doubt that. Those old carts were yeah, dual PCB, contain like up to 20 mask ROM chips, and contain additional Z80's, YM audio chips, additional cache RAM, other memory management chips.
Take a look at the Metal Slug 3 cart and its variants. These things were not cheap to make back them. Impossible to produce now using those exact same old ROM chips and support chips:
Metal Slug 3 NEO·GEO AES & MVS SCANS
The biggest carts are like KOF 2003, Metal Slug 3, Mark of the Wolves. and whatever else that was released between 1999-2004-ish. The biggest SNES and genesis carts maybe contained 2 Mask ROM chips, and in the SNES's cases some additional co-processor. Not including Virtua Racing on the Genesis.
You know the modern carts will be some form of Flash ROM equivalent, most likely be less stuff and weigh less than the old carts, unless they put weights in them... I'm, sure they will also use ASIC's for the internal support chips. The new carts will be made much cheaper than the original carts.
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MrTroubleMaker
Member
At least the carts are cheaper then the original, but still way overpriced.
cireza
Member
Do we know how these carts are made ? Unless we do, I don't think we can assume they are that cheap. If they are made like the old ones, with two big ass PCBs and many ROMs on them, this is gonna be pretty expensive to make.
If the console hardware is really replicated pretty closely, you can't throw anything at it and call it a day. We need to see the internals.
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phant0m
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
That's really really cool but man, I can't really justify spending so much money on a few games I've already played a hundred times lol.
Pretty cool selection btw. Metal Slug, Shock Troopers and Garou are my favorites from there, and TwinkleStar Sprites is also great specially in multiplayer.
Pretty cool selection btw. Metal Slug, Shock Troopers and Garou are my favorites from there, and TwinkleStar Sprites is also great specially in multiplayer.
SkylineRKR
Member
I still have the original with a dozen of carts. But this is less of a hassle than RGB HDMI converters. The question is, will it indeed be 1:1? This is why I don't preorder (and likely miss out). But I have the system here.
Can recommend this new release you always wanted it, at least aestheticly it seems 1:1.
You can emulate the NG portfolio for 25 years now. Its about playing on the real system. I guess that will always be a thing.
Can recommend this new release you always wanted it, at least aestheticly it seems 1:1.
You can emulate the NG portfolio for 25 years now. Its about playing on the real system. I guess that will always be a thing.
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Hudo
Member
Ah. Thank you very much. I probably should've read the page more carefully.
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
I wanted one of these so badly when I was a kid and my parents were ok with the price of the console, but obviously not the price of the games. I looked at my girlfriend with the demeanor of an abandoned kitten and she gave me a smile and a nod.
Pre-ordered the NEOGEO AES+ Ultimate Edition.
Pre-ordered the NEOGEO AES+ Ultimate Edition.
ReyBrujo
Member
That's one of the consoles you read only on Spanish magazines because nobody down here in Argentina had it. Never really liked arcade games, especially after SF2 launched which made most of others seem kind of "off", however I remember reading about Blue's Journey and wanting to play it because it was so colorful and you couldn't find that one on arcades, only the fighting games and the soccer ones.
Ceallach
Smells like fresh rosebuds
I jumped on this immediately. I have an almost complete collection between MVS and AES, and the fact this is just new productions of the original Hardware means my converters should work fine.
Just need these MFs to rerelease Neo Turf Masters and Stakes Winner. Their release of SamSho V S plugs one hole for me as is.
Just need these MFs to rerelease Neo Turf Masters and Stakes Winner. Their release of SamSho V S plugs one hole for me as is.
Holammer
Member
Had a discussion with a friend about this. He noted and I agree how the "reprint" carts will sell gangbusters to collectors because many of them, like Neo Turf Masters go for fantasy prices and are basically cartridge unobtainium.
Shock Troopers never had an AES release either.
I'm quite happy with emulation myself, but I damn do I feel an itch. If it reviews well and the controllers are solid I might get one.
Shock Troopers never had an AES release either.
I'm quite happy with emulation myself, but I damn do I feel an itch. If it reviews well and the controllers are solid I might get one.
Bonkerzzz
Member
Big Tournament Golf IS Turf Masters. The must have run into a licensing issue with the name.
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
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JackHanma
Member
Give in to the new precious shiny things.
I probably will lol. Hopefully they release Art of Fighting 3. I love that game.
Delt31
Member
I love the guys who say AAA games will cost as much as neo geo did back in the 90s. You can easily tell they're young and prob on tik tok all day.
Reality check from someone who grew up in the 80s/90s. Bought SNES and NES brand new, etc.
Neo Geo was only for rich kids. Everyone knew about it but no one (I knew at least) had it.
Adjusted for inflation, Neo Geo cost $1500 when it was released
$1500!!!!!!!!!
That is all. And yes this offering is sick.
Anni edition is the one I want but that white is just not neo geo to me. I might buy black to play and white to not unbox.
I also might just get that damn $1k one.
Reality check from someone who grew up in the 80s/90s. Bought SNES and NES brand new, etc.
Neo Geo was only for rich kids. Everyone knew about it but no one (I knew at least) had it.
Adjusted for inflation, Neo Geo cost $1500 when it was released
$1500!!!!!!!!!
That is all. And yes this offering is sick.
Anni edition is the one I want but that white is just not neo geo to me. I might buy black to play and white to not unbox.
I also might just get that damn $1k one.
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cinnamonandgravy
Member
rich + really into neogeo games
not a lot of kids were in the middle of that venn diagram
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Theres something about NG games which have so much charm. The games were really just 16-bit games on steroids in giant cartridges.
But there's something about the artwork and audio that makes them timeless.
It's too bad NG was a quarter munching arcade focused system. Just imagine if their games used that power and storage to make games with more meat to them like pro sports games or RPGs like Genesis and SNES games for the home market.
But there's something about the artwork and audio that makes them timeless.
It's too bad NG was a quarter munching arcade focused system. Just imagine if their games used that power and storage to make games with more meat to them like pro sports games or RPGs like Genesis and SNES games for the home market.
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