The original Neo market will remain as expensive and elite as usuasl. AES+ will be a lower tier child and treated as such by the elite. There will always be OG products. AES+ will just epxand the market and offer more available cheaper second prints, anyone who collects cards or comics would be famliar with this. I could actually see prices for the OG market systems and cartridges spike upwards, at least the games. I woud love some of the new comapanies to jump on board and get some reprints of Xeno Crisis, Kraut Buster and some of the Ngdev team stuff.
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SNK is releasing a modern NeoGeo AES console
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Celcius
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https://xcancel.com/furrtek/status/2049578651490914392
Furrtek (worked on the AES+) gave a thumbs up to this post by Nic034:
"Possibly using NAND for cartridge is heresy. NAND is not technically or directly compatible with the 68000's address bus and its mandatory direct read access. It would be a cheaper technical choice, but one that would greatly complicate things, requiring more components etc. NOR is connected directly to an address/data bus like any standard SRAM. NAND uses a multiplexed I/O interface that is incompatible with this type of access. NOR allows execute-in-place (XIP). the CPU executes code directly from the cartridge without any prior copy to RAM. The 68000 performs direct random access on the bus. NAND does not natively support this. It would require adding a NAND controller between the chip and the bus, a buffer RAM to load code before execution, and additional address mapping logic. This essentially means recreating a PC-style loading system… absurd for a game cartridge."
Seems like we're getting NOR flash memory and we're in good hands.
Furrtek (worked on the AES+) gave a thumbs up to this post by Nic034:
"Possibly using NAND for cartridge is heresy. NAND is not technically or directly compatible with the 68000's address bus and its mandatory direct read access. It would be a cheaper technical choice, but one that would greatly complicate things, requiring more components etc. NOR is connected directly to an address/data bus like any standard SRAM. NAND uses a multiplexed I/O interface that is incompatible with this type of access. NOR allows execute-in-place (XIP). the CPU executes code directly from the cartridge without any prior copy to RAM. The 68000 performs direct random access on the bus. NAND does not natively support this. It would require adding a NAND controller between the chip and the bus, a buffer RAM to load code before execution, and additional address mapping logic. This essentially means recreating a PC-style loading system… absurd for a game cartridge."
Seems like we're getting NOR flash memory and we're in good hands.
DeVeAn
Member
I'll pre-order a black one with Metal Slug on Amazon. That might be the start and end for me probably.
Worst case I can display it as the machine I could never afford but always wanted. NEO GEO the arcade machine was so distinct from all other machines. Every pizza place had one where I grew up. Crossing fingers this is exactly what most of us really want!
Worst case I can display it as the machine I could never afford but always wanted. NEO GEO the arcade machine was so distinct from all other machines. Every pizza place had one where I grew up. Crossing fingers this is exactly what most of us really want!
I'd prefer mask roms, but I'll take nor , no program/erase cycles means it should last plenty long enough
All-time classics: Garou Mark of the Wolves, Pulstar, Metal Slug, Neo Turf Master (Big Tournament Golf).
Good games: Twinkle Sprite Spirit, Shock Troopers, Magician Lord.
Good games but other in the same series are generally considered better: Samaruai Shdown 5 (SS2), King of Fighters 2002 (KoF98).
Just alright surely not worth 80 euro: OverTop.
But then again, while cheap for AES standard, 80 euro is still quite pricy therefore I would suggest to check the game and attest what you envision will engross you enough.
For example I think I will go only for Garou, Pulstar and Metal Slug.
Giallo Corsa
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Neo Turf masters HAS to be one of the best, most classic games ever created - and I say this as person that knows fuck and all about golf, it's just that the game is a bona fide classic oozing charm from every pore and as for the gameplay...it's pure crack, it's literally "just one more hole" until you've played 2 courses back to back...
Amazingly fun game, one of the GOATs IMO, it's just THAT fun (and relaxing) to play
PS: that "OhhHhh NOOooooOHhhh" after a bogey gets me everytime
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nush
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I had it for the Neo Geo Pocket, portable Neo Turf Masters was played so much.Neo Turf masters HAS to be one of the best, most classic games ever created - and I say this as person that knows fuck and all about golf, it's just that the game is a bona fide classic oozing charm from every pore and as for the gameplay...it's pure crack, it's literally "just one more hole" until you've played 2 courses back to back...
Amazingly fun game, one of the GOATs IMO, it's just THAT fun (and relaxing) to play
PS: that "OhhHhh NOOooooOHhhh" after a bogey gets me everytime
DeVeAn
Member
I believe the colors in wrong place?
nush
Gold Member
They would need to be licensed from whoever owns Taito now and Konami. Those are long shot choices.
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
I hope that'll be rectified before mass production.
Havoc2049
Member
Never say never. Plaion worked with Namco and Toaplan to get these games released for the Atari 7800/7800+ platform.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Was it confirmed that the non Japanese versions of the games come with a reversible cover for the Japanese box art?
cinnamonandgravy
Member
ok fine, i preordered
cartridges being manufactured in germany broke me
$500 to play metal slug
cartridges being manufactured in germany broke me
$500 to play metal slug
Havoc2049
Member
Good idea. I know the AES+ has HDMI and AV outputs. Will the AES+ have the same AV output as the OG AES? I see there are NeoGeo AES composite cables on eBay. I would love to play the AES+ on my CRT.
Celcius
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Yep besides the HDMI port it also has the original neogeo AV port so original cables will work on the AES+ as well
Celcius
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My cables came in the mail today for connecting the AES+ to a CRT with component video and stereo sound. Now I'm all set for November! I also can't wait to see what gets announced for the second wave of games in September. I don't plan to buy any original AES games before launch because you never know if it could end up in wave 2 for a cheaper price.
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Considering only samurai spirits 1 and 2, garou 1 2 and special regularly sell for under 90 (and I used the Japanese titles for a reason, the us /eu carts are all more) and maybe ryoko no ken and kof 94 jp
everything else would be cheaper
Plus overclocking does wonders for metal slug 2
Ulysses 31
Member
Put the crackpipe down, it's 1000$ for the console with 10 games and wireless gamepad, so not just the console with arcade stick.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Shock troopers only "good"??
Calverz
Member
Don't you own a ps5 pro?
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
I bought a digital ps5 when they launched. When a pro first came out GameStop let you trade the OG in for getting a pro for like $180 or something.
$1000 is a lot to me, for this, without knowing SNKs full plan for it either.
If you're a collector trying to save a ton getting original NeoGeo stuff then you're golden to go this route.
If you're not a hardcore collector or NeoGeo guy, it's a harder pillow to swallow than specially with emulation options being available. I would've thought something like this would be $500-$600.
he must haven't gotten burnt by the no save feature and is still salty
f~N_CH_1:3:3:3_SushiBoat
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Havoc2049
Member
Considering the console is only $250 and the games are $90 each, the AES+ and the new releases are a steal compared to the current situation...
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
The game is 5 euro's on the switch eshopConsidering the console is only $250 and the games are $90 each, the AES+ and the new releases are a steal compared to the current situation...
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Wait I was told in some YT video this console is going to be $1000. $250 id be down.Considering the console is only $250 and the games are $90 each, the AES+ and the new releases are a steal compared to the current situation...
Havoc2049
Member
You got ripped off. I've seen it for even cheaper at Pirate Bob's ROM-o-RAMA.The game is 5 euro's on the switch eshop
Havoc2049
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NEO GEO AES+ Product Page
Reborn for its 35th anniversary: The NEOGEO AES+ delivers true hardware gameplay, HDMI output, and full compatibility with new and original AES cartridges.
plaionreplai.us
a dumb youtuber that gets super easily available facts wrong? no way!
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
The answer is always Garou.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Kof 2k2 and samsho v special are both absolutely solid games, though ground is the best of the 3
kunonabi
Gold Member
2k2 is an absolute all timer. Not so much in presentation but the core gameplay is unmatched. SSV is super well liked by the community but i find it too focused on overbearing system mechanics myself. Garou is probably the best overall package though.
Remember it's ssv special, not the original release,
Calverz
Member
Garou. Because Rock Howard's stage/theme samples a eurodance song from the 90's.
Yes, which isn't a bad remark.
I don't regard that game in the same league as Metal Slug, Garou and Pulstar.
Yeah but it's gotta that weird genjuro with a hanmer
I Love Rock 'n' Roll
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consoul
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OK so I'm not trying to start any shit here, but I checked out the display model AES+ in person yesterday.
Its not easy to get a look at the ports on the back, but I reached over and snapped a couple of shots. Now I know this is likely just an early mock-up shell, but the AV Out port ain't right.
It's an 8-pin DIN, but it's the Mega Drive type, not the AES type. In other words, the pin spacing is U-shaped, not C-shaped. If you tried to plug an OG AES RGB cable into this, you'd probably snap the top two pins.
I'm hoping the final version restores the original port type.
Its not easy to get a look at the ports on the back, but I reached over and snapped a couple of shots. Now I know this is likely just an early mock-up shell, but the AV Out port ain't right.
It's an 8-pin DIN, but it's the Mega Drive type, not the AES type. In other words, the pin spacing is U-shaped, not C-shaped. If you tried to plug an OG AES RGB cable into this, you'd probably snap the top two pins.
I'm hoping the final version restores the original port type.
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