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How would that work? I don't think a direct adapation of the original Homeric Greek poem would make much sense lol "All dialog from the poem"??? It's not a script.
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Of course it doesn't make any sense. But it gets the likes on X. That's all that matters.
 
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By all means.

I don't care about Elon Musk, but made by Mel Gibson, the man behind Apocalypto and Braveheart? Fucking yes. I don't think this will happen, I'm afraid.

The dialogue could be hardly the same though. But Gibson would care more about inmersion at least instead "everyone talking like other movies because being 'relatable' " .

This reminds me he's making the two sequels of The Passion of Christ...
 
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I don't care about Elon Musk, but made by Mel Gibson, the man behind Apocalypto and Braveheart? Fucking yes. I don't think this will happen, I'm afraid.

The dialogue could be hardly the same though. But Gibson would care more about inmersion at least instead "everyone talking like other movies because being 'relatable' " .

This reminds me he's making the two sequels of The Passion of Christ..

Listening to actors butcher Homeric Greek would not be particularly immersive to me. Maybe having them speak modern Greek would be better I guess.
 
I don't care about Elon Musk, but made by Mel Gibson, the man behind Apocalypto and Braveheart? Fucking yes. I don't think this will happen, I'm afraid.

The dialogue could be hardly the same though. But Gibson would care more about inmersion at least instead "everyone talking like other movies because being 'relatable' " .

This reminds me he's making the two sequels of The Passion of Christ...
You could make a script without a lot of dialogue and then do it is ancient greek. There is a guy on insta who sings/recites the Odyssey in ancient greek and it sounds really nice, waaaaaay better than that auto-tuned shitshow of an end song.

 
You could make a script without a lot of dialogue and then do it is ancient greek. There is a guy on insta who sings/recites the Odyssey in ancient greek and it sounds really nice, waaaaaay better than that auto-tuned shitshow of an end song.


Can't imagine why Nolan didn't do this for the movie
 
You could make a script without a lot of dialogue and then do it is ancient greek. There is a guy on insta who sings/recites the Odyssey in ancient greek and it sounds really nice, waaaaaay better than that auto-tuned shitshow of an end song.


I wish he'd stop looking at me like that.

If you look at his other posts, he loves the movie and he loved the Emily Wilson translation.
 
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You're not a native speaker of any of it to know the wiser unless the internet told you.

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Eh not true at all. I don't know High Valarian but the scenes where Emma D'Arcy is using it are terrible. She is clearly struggling to speak this nonsense language.

Matt Smith is better but he's still awkward at times. Hell many actors from the UK/Aus/NZ absolutely suck with American accents to and kill immersion for me. Tom Holland sucks at it for instance. Speaking some language that is nonsense to the actor is even worse.
 
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Eh not true at all. I don't know High Valarian but the scenes where Emma D'Arcy is using it are terrible. She is clearly struggling to speak this nonsense language.

Matt Smith is better but he's still awkward at times.
A made up entertainment language and HBO direction/production. Apples to oranges man, come on.

The Passion was fantastic with Aramaic, Latin and Hebrew. Everyone loved the use of it and didn't know the wiser due to how well the performances were until some historians came out and said "acccksshuuuwallly."

Apocalypto was great as well.
 
A made up entertainment language and HBO direction/production. Apples to oranges man, come on.

The Passion was fantastic with Aramaic, Latin and Hebrew. Everyone loved the use of it and didn't know the wiser due to how well the performances were until some historians came out and said "acccksshuuuwallly."

Apocalypto was great as well.
Fair enough, I'm EXTREMELY sensitive to this shit I guess, personal problem. I'd 9 times out of 10 just rather someone used their natural accent for instance. Like the show Silo is so dumb, hardly any actor is American but they decided to have everyone speak in American accents and it kind of drives me nuts.
 
Fair enough, I'm EXTREMELY sensitive to this shit I guess, personal problem. I'd 9 times out of 10 just rather someone used their natural accent for instance. Like the show Silo is so dumb, hardly any actor is American but they decided to have everyone speak in American accents and it kind of drives me nuts.
I get that, I've come across a lot of shows and films that have done that and made me do an eye roll or angst face.
 
A made up entertainment language and HBO direction/production. Apples to oranges man, come on.

The Passion was fantastic with Aramaic, Latin and Hebrew. Everyone loved the use of it and didn't know the wiser due to how well the performances were until some historians came out and said "acccksshuuuwallly."

Apocalypto was great as well.
I find most "native american language" to be borderline intolerable in films. It very much has a stuttering rhythm to it like they are just reciting sounds with no notion of the actual word flow and context. No emphasis, no stress on certain sounds, just a monotonous repetition that doesn't mimic normal speech, even in a tongue you don't understand. Maybe those languages ARE like that, but I doubt it. I don't think anyone is actually using them in normal speech even if they know the words and pronunciation.

Fine for short snippets, but not great for long speeches. Apocalypto was probably the best use for it.
 
Well, maybe not that guy specifically but the rhythm and flow of the words sung by a chorus, give us an idea of how it was likely originally performed.

It's not like listening to german, buncha folks just barking and coughing at each other :P

That text intro on black screen right up to the part where Travis Scott makes music about Odysseus, would work really well if sung in Greek like this. Then it switches to English afterward.
 
Saw it. It was great.
Agamemnon was the epitome of coolness.


Kept waiting for the face reveal that never happened.

This just felt slow, despite all the action, which should be impossible with the setting?

Good looking, but a bit dull.

For the Era mythology, Clash of the Titans still reigns supreme. 1981, by Desmond Davis, yeah yeah, Perseus was roughly 100 to 150 years older than Odysseus time, but that movie is the better one. Nolan should have hit this out of the ballpark, but made a half boring slog of a movie, with too much nonsense.

Atleast Sinon was still a minor character.. :P
 
This is insane. i was having a really hard time getting tickets to see the movie at my local LieMAX with Laser, but it seems like the same is true for IMAX 70MM.



Finally got tickets for Friday. Had to book four days in advance. Tickets went live early on Tuesday and by 9AM, theater was already half full. Never seen anything like this. Not even for Avatar.
 
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This is insane. i was having a really hard time getting tickets to see the movie at my local LieMAX with Laser, but it seems like the same is true for IMAX 70MM.



Finally got tickets for Friday. Had to book four days in advance. Tickets went live early on Tuesday and by 9AM, theater was already half full. Never seen anything like this. Not even for Avatar.

Almost a month in advance:

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Y'all gotta move away from the coasts. The imax and the 70mm have plenty of seats near me for this weekend. Only the imax 70mm theater is sold out.
 
Overall I give it a 3/5. Liked a lot of it. Some of it I didn't like. None of the casting pulled me out.

The island with the giants I don't remember who they are.

I think the sequence with Polyphemus was a let down. Should have had the conversations with them.

Cicre with the stew and pigs was really good. Having Odysseus remember the events was a great way to present it.

Meneleus remembering his part was good.
 
Y'all gotta move away from the coasts. The imax and the 70mm have plenty of seats near me for this weekend. Only the imax 70mm theater is sold out.
im in the midwest. This is the saturday evening showing at my local LieMAX with Laser. (One of two in my city) All the good seats are taken. If you are going alone, you can get some decent seats. If you are going with friends or the missus, forget about getting a good seat. Again, this is 4 days from now.

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This is for tomorrow evening. Im originally from the east coast, but ive been living here for almost 20 years now and ive never seen anything like this. Like i said before, I watch all Nolan movies multiple times on IMAX. This is something else. It's like no one wants to watch it in anything other than IMAX.

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There is a 70mm (non IMAX) screen that is showing the movie on Film. I was getting antsy and wanted to see if i could get some seats during the week and nope. This is tomorrow evening. Of course I could settle for seats up front but fuck that.

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Edit: Its outperforming TDK in terms of dollars.

 
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I am surprised this movie is doing so well. I guess there is really nothing else to watch right now and people must really like Nolan. And when was the last time an IMAX movie came out? The one IMAX that I knew about closed like 10 years ago. I like that is has old school special effects, but the forced DEI casting kills any interest I might have. I thought we were all tired of DEI, but I guess not. I guess a lot on GAF have a much higher threshold than I do for it. I have lost a lot of interest in watching all movies in a theater since COVID, so it takes a lot to drag me to a movie. And having Elliot Page cast as a main character, as a man, is not something I want to pay to see unless it is a remake of Lord of the Rings where she plays as Gollum. Matt Walsh has a wall of text review after watching it. I tend to agree with his hot takes and he shreds this movie pretty good. It is definitely confirmation bias. He says the movie sucks and I don't need to watch it to agree.
 
I am surprised this movie is doing so well. I guess there is really nothing else to watch right now and people must really like Nolan. And when was the last time an IMAX movie came out? The one IMAX that I knew about closed like 10 years ago. I like that is has old school special effects, but the forced DEI casting kills any interest I might have. I thought we were all tired of DEI, but I guess not. I guess a lot on GAF have a much higher threshold than I do for it. I have lost a lot of interest in watching all movies in a theater since COVID, so it takes a lot to drag me to a movie. And having Elliot Page cast as a main character, as a man, is not something I want to pay to see unless it is a remake of Lord of the Rings where she plays as Gollum. Matt Walsh has a wall of text review after watching it. I tend to agree with his hot takes and he shreds this movie pretty good. It is definitely confirmation bias. He says the movie sucks and I don't need to watch it to agree.
People are tired of chronically outraged grifters and just want to enjoy a good movie.
 
I accidentally posted this in the Avengers Doomsday thread so here it is again:

The response to this movie by right-wing pundits since its release has been wild.

They fall into two camps

Those trying to claim it's a failure or disappointment. This is like the rightwing version of Kyle Kulinski and David Pakman gaslighting their audience by calling the UFC White House event a disaster.

And those trying to co opt it as some antiwoke conservative commentary. Just cringe.

This is really a dumb hill to die on. The movie has been well received by general audiences and is performing really well at the BO. Just take the L.
 
I am surprised this movie is doing so well. I guess there is really nothing else to watch right now and people must really like Nolan. And when was the last time an IMAX movie came out? The one IMAX that I knew about closed like 10 years ago. I like that is has old school special effects, but the forced DEI casting kills any interest I might have. I thought we were all tired of DEI, but I guess not. I guess a lot on GAF have a much higher threshold than I do for it. I have lost a lot of interest in watching all movies in a theater since COVID, so it takes a lot to drag me to a movie. And having Elliot Page cast as a main character, as a man, is not something I want to pay to see unless it is a remake of Lord of the Rings where she plays as Gollum. Matt Walsh has a wall of text review after watching it. I tend to agree with his hot takes and he shreds this movie pretty good. It is definitely confirmation bias. He says the movie sucks and I don't need to watch it to agree.
I just like seeing well-made movies from passionate directors with technical achievement behind them, man. My first question is not "is it woke or not" because that would be an incredibly boring way to approach art. And even if it is, I'll decide for myself and not let a guy on Twitter who ragebaits for a living tell me what to think.
 
Part of me wants to see it again because I wasn't blown away like it seems like a lot of people are. I feel like I'm missing something that a repeat view may change. I also want to go see it in true IMAX but the only somewhat decent seats are at like 8am Wednesday next week near me.
 
Finally watched it, Nolan doesn't miss.

I actually liked the first teaser, then a lot of my friends began complaining about the "woke casting" and I guess I let myself get pulled into it a little bit and my hype died down. Alas, now that the movie is finally here some of those same friends are saying it's one of Nolan's best movies, meanwhile I don't think it cracks my top 5 of his movies. We people are weird like that.

Anyhow, still enjoyed tf out of it, the Hades and sacking of Troy scenes are going to stay in my mind for a long time.
Some people might shit on him but the man just knows how to make entertaining movies.

As always with Nolan, can't wait to see what he does next.
 
Listening to Emily Wilson make good points

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Nolan made an interesting and very Nolan-like choice with his screenplay, and I'm okay with getting something different, but Emily Wilson is right. There's a whole lot of guilt and shame, and very little glory and warrioring in his version until the return to Ithaca.

His protagonists are serious, stoic people in all of his films. It would have been cool to leave that comfort zone and try to make a proper unapologetic adventure.
 
Nolan made an interesting and very Nolan-like choice with his screenplay, and I'm okay with getting something different, but Emily Wilson is right. There's a whole lot of guilt and shame, and very little glory and warrioring in his version until the return to Ithaca.

His protagonists are serious, stoic people in all of his films. It would have been cool to leave that comfort zone and try to make a proper unapologetic adventure.
One part that stood out to me was when Odysseus requested to be tied up to hear the sirens. In the poem, it makes perfect sense; it ties closely to his characterization throughout the Odyssey, namely his curiosity and hubris. In the movie it was a bit jarring; up until that point he was mostly a serious and grim guy, and suddenly he came off as a bit whimsical in wanting to hear the song. That part didn't really sell me on him wanting to do it to sate his curiosity.
 
Watched Director's Cut of Troy yesterday. I thought it was fantastic. Brilliant charismatic casting, great action, epic scale, brutal, brutal ending, incl. babies killed and women raped. I never saw the film before and was very pleasantly surprised. Now I need to watch rest of Wolfgang Petersen's filmography (only seen Neverending Story which I loved). 9/10

Then I went to see Odyssey. Much more ambivalent about this one. First the room elephant. The casting was ridiculous. Seeing africans, indians and chinese proclaim "We are Greeks, from Ithaca" made me chuckle and destroyed any immersion. Anytime Patel was on screen I was just out of it. Then add Helen of DEItroit, "Elliot" Page, the movie does itself no favours. But, since the film is shot in a way that does not resemble ancient (or even modern) Greece almost at all anyway, it was in the end not the biggest issue I had with it.
My biggest issue is that emotionally, it did almost nothing for me. Odysseus returning home, getting greeted by his hunting dog, his son, his wife...it should have been emotional, but it wasn't. This is a problem I have in several of latest Nolan movies. In Memento, Prestige, Insomnia, Inception, this aspect worked, but in his latest films, it doesn't. Also, he does not know how to shoot action effectively. It is a shaky cammed blurry mess which is impossible to enjoy on visual level. And that is even putting aside how stupid the ending action scene was from basic logic perspective.
Now, there are things about the film I appreciate. First, it is pretty well paced, and for 3 hour movie, I was not bored. The craft of filmmaking on display is impressive. Atmosphere is striking in some sequences. Cyclops and Circe sequences were fantastic, even if not quite as good as they could have been if they were more faithful to the source. Damon, Holland and Hathaway all were very good. Overall...7/10 ? Maybe 6.
 
Autotranslated from Swedish news site.
The Odyssey" creators dodge payment to Swedish company - criticism

A Värmland Viking ship has been given a role in the blockbuster film "The Odyssey".

But after the recording, the nonprofit is still waiting for payment.

"In a Universal production, it's coffee money," says chairman Peter Olausson.
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Christopher Nolan's new film "The Odyssey" became a global box office success during its opening weekend.

Participating in the film is the Swedish Viking ship Glad av Gillberga, which comes from the Värmland Vikingaleden Association. It is a non-profit association in Nysäter, Säffle, which, among other things, runs a Viking museum, a Viking village and has Viking ships.

According to Peter Olausson, chairman of the Viking Trail Association, the ship Glad av Gillberga is well-known in Viking circles. Universal Studios got wind of the ship and wanted to use it in "The Odyssey," something VF reported on.

– Glad is one of the accompanying ships and is featured in some sequences in the film. It is part of the environment, says Peter Olausson to Expressen.

Universal stopped responding – invoice unpaid
The association made an agreement with a subsidiary that handles recruitment for Universal Studios. They were allowed to rent the ship for six months, but would also pay for wear and tear costs that would arise from use and transportation.

The association has been paid for the rent – but that's where it stopped.

"Small money for them and money that means something to us," says Peter Olausson.

When the association got the ship back, they needed to fix several wear and tear damages, including a crack in the hull. They were prepared to do that, and then send an invoice for the material costs to the film company. In the end, it ended up being around 60,000 kronor.

– In a Universal production, it's coffee money. That was the agreement and we haven't seen that money. We're not very happy about that.

The film company hasn't responded to emails since last winter, the chairman says. He speculates that they've moved on to the next production and simply forgotten about them.

– But I don't know because it's silent. It's going to be bitter. There's a glimmer of joy in the cup of having been in this fantastic film, because it really is a fantastic film.

"Get to nibble on the margins"
The money is important for the non-profit organization. Due to the repair of the ship, they have also lost revenue because they have not been able to launch it on time.

– We are a non-profit organization that lives on fairly small margins. We are not going bankrupt, but we have to cut back on the margins.

Olausson hopes that the attention that has been paid to what has happened can make someone in the right circles wake up and fix the error. He will continue to send more emails in the future, but otherwise there is not much that can be done.

– We can't sue Universal. There are no such possibilities, we are so small in comparison.
Scummy behaviour to exploit a non-profit organization like that. Universal should have been on top these things considering how important practical effects and props are to Nolan.
 
Nolan made an interesting and very Nolan-like choice with his screenplay, and I'm okay with getting something different, but Emily Wilson is right. There's a whole lot of guilt and shame, and very little glory and warrioring in his version until the return to Ithaca.

His protagonists are serious, stoic people in all of his films. It would have been cool to leave that comfort zone and try to make a proper unapologetic adventure.
This is one of my biggest issues with modern blockbusters and one of the reasons why I can't call movies like this one or the new Robin Hood movie as "brave". Or it "needs" to be a parody, a sad "deconstruction" or being in middle in nowhere, specially with a male fictional icon. Always with restraints and talking down to the audience for everything. This is a tiring trend and it's not even a new thing. And for cynical and """realistic""" crap...movies of the 70s already exist, they were far less corporate and less about dumbing down for anyone.
 
I am surprised this movie is doing so well. I guess there is really nothing else to watch right now and people must really like Nolan. And when was the last time an IMAX movie came out? The one IMAX that I knew about closed like 10 years ago. I like that is has old school special effects, but the forced DEI casting kills any interest I might have. I thought we were all tired of DEI, but I guess not. I guess a lot on GAF have a much higher threshold than I do for it. I have lost a lot of interest in watching all movies in a theater since COVID, so it takes a lot to drag me to a movie. And having Elliot Page cast as a main character, as a man, is not something I want to pay to see unless it is a remake of Lord of the Rings where she plays as Gollum. Matt Walsh has a wall of text review after watching it. I tend to agree with his hot takes and he shreds this movie pretty good. It is definitely confirmation bias. He says the movie sucks and I don't need to watch it to agree.

You do you, but I think the film is a very good movie, despite a few odd casting choices which end up barely being in the film at all anyway. Elliot's role was actually an okay casting for the character in the film, that one ended up not bothering me at all because his small stature was a part of the characters story and arc and it worked well for me. Helen's casting is the one which bothered me as there just wasn't any good story reason for the race swap, it felt very forced to me. The rest of the cast felt spot on to me and worked great in the film Nolan made, and I enjoyed the movie a lot more than I expected to.

Most of the negative reviews I keep seeing about Odyssey seem very off to me and disconnected from the actual movie itself. Almost like some people are trying too hard and going way out of their way just to hate on it. I mean yes Odyssey isn't perfect and there are some reasonable criticisms to be made about it, but they are minor relatively nitpicks in and otherwise good film.
 
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