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Did Konami ever fix the Silent Hill HD collection?
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No, they did not fix everything wrong with that piece of junk. Get SH2 and 3 on PS2 or PC. They knew it was fucked up well before the game even came out, they released a day one patch that changed NOTHING AT ALL.
Tomm Hulett even admitted he saw this trainwreck coming from a mile away and he was sorry a solution was not available on day one.
Tomm Hulett even admitted he saw this trainwreck coming from a mile away and he was sorry a solution was not available on day one.
Lupin the Third
Member
IIRC, they patched the PS3 one to some degree, and only the PS3 one. And even then many issues remain.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Yes on PS3, no on 360.
Same with the ZOE Collection.
Same with the ZOE Collection.
ByakuyaEXT
Neo Member
Silent Hill 2 is okay still looks like a piece of crap without the fog
Silent Hill 3 is still the lagging mess which likes to freeze whenever its in the mood
360 Version never recieved the Patch and the problems are far worse
Silent Hill 3 is still the lagging mess which likes to freeze whenever its in the mood
360 Version never recieved the Patch and the problems are far worse
I stayed far away from these... they could never fix all the problem with this collection, the biggest problems are FAR from only technical.
Watch this... it's long, and their humor is terrible, but it is an AMAZING watch for the critical dissection they perform on the collection:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxYkNUyBhS4
Watch this... it's long, and their humor is terrible, but it is an AMAZING watch for the critical dissection they perform on the collection:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxYkNUyBhS4
Hire Bluepoint.
The 360 version at launch did not have as many issues as the PS3 version at launch. I don't know how that happened but both versions had different bugs and glitches.
360 never got the latest patch, I think it is because of how the 360 patching works and the file limit that was imposed at that time or something along those lines.
Muskieratboi
Member
[Insert image of SH HD character with teeth eyes due to texture fuckups]
No. No, they did not.
No. No, they did not.
It doesn't.
The art direction and locations look incredible and you notice a lot more details on the characters and the areas due to the improved textures and resolution.
Though obviously there is less fog in the HD version.
OneEyeTwoHead
Banned
No, it's enormously fucked.
I played through the games for the first time via this collection, and the stuttering running/walking drove me fucking bananas.
I still powered through and absolutely loved the games, however.
I played through the games for the first time via this collection, and the stuttering running/walking drove me fucking bananas.
I still powered through and absolutely loved the games, however.
DidntKnowJack
Member
The collection is based off unfinished code that was never supposed to be used, so patching it was like putting a band-aid on a massive head wound.
EekumBokum
Member
I was wondering the same thing a few days ago, but just decided to go ahead and buy it cause I don't have access to ps2 versions and don't have a suitable pc to run them either.
My only option is the hd collection really, so I'm not too bothered about it I guess.
My only option is the hd collection really, so I'm not too bothered about it I guess.
ByakuyaEXT
Neo Member
The entire boat scene is disgusting
Cave Johnson
Member
No. Fortunately emulators exist.
Almost perfectly, as far as I know. Though you might be better off going with the native PC version (except for SH2 I think).
Nemesis_
Member
There are some very questionable omissions (on an artistic / creative level) that make it inferior, but I'd wager that if you don't know any better it wouldn't be too deterimental.
BUT
The games in their original forms are absolutely fantastic and perfectly honed with their presentation (both audio and visual). I'd recommend the originals over the HD remakes, but I acknowledge how hard it is to find the originals now so I wouldn't begrudge anyone for playing the HD remake.
There is a two hour review of the HD collection that is pretty exhaustive with why it's not really a good remaster, but I think this 15 minute video sums it up pretty well despite the shitty capture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcPzeICO1ag
I think the new voices are awful too, but I can't remember if Konami ended up making them optional or not.
BUT
The games in their original forms are absolutely fantastic and perfectly honed with their presentation (both audio and visual). I'd recommend the originals over the HD remakes, but I acknowledge how hard it is to find the originals now so I wouldn't begrudge anyone for playing the HD remake.
There is a two hour review of the HD collection that is pretty exhaustive with why it's not really a good remaster, but I think this 15 minute video sums it up pretty well despite the shitty capture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcPzeICO1ag
I think the new voices are awful too, but I can't remember if Konami ended up making them optional or not.
ByakuyaEXT
Neo Member
Silent Hill 2 you can choose if you want the wonderful Guy Cihi or Troy Baker
Silent Hill 3 you are forced to use the new ones :/
Silent Hill 3 you are forced to use the new ones :/
Fahrenheit
Banned
Since ZoE came out in this thread what version of the HD collection for that is best?
PS3 got a patch that fixed the more glaring frame rate problems. I'm not sure if Xbox got it.
ShockingAlberto
Member
360 version did not.
Nemesis_
Member
I think post-patch both are pretty good, though there are still some slowdowns during one particular mission of ZOE2. But generally it's a much more competent port.
ZOE HD was worked on by High Voltage, who have a somewhat serviceable pedigree.
Silent Hill HD was worked on by Hijinx Studios, who had a large majority of their talent being brought up on only mobile/handheld games.
Konami really cheaped out with SH HD
How it runs isn't even the biggest problem about this collection, it's the huge artistic changes that were made that ruin or distort the atmosphere the most important part of any SH game.
WOOOOW.
I'm not the biggest Silent Hill guy, I loved the first one when it came out but have been largely staying away from the series ever since, this is the first time I've ever seen that.
That is FUCKING INSANE! What the hell happened? I know there was a lot being said about this release at launch but holy shit, why weren't people (figuratively) rioting in the streets? That is without a doubt the most egregious lack of attention I've seen in any kind of remaster or adaptation. Completely unacceptable.
The hard working folks folks at Konami had no designated driver so they decided to do the HD collection right there at the bar.
I remember reading that Bluepoint for their several HD collections reverse engineered the code from the retail discs. With that in mind it's baffling that Konami/Hijinx would not do the same when they didn't have a finished code version on record.
RadioHeadAche
Member
I remember starting SH3 without the patch once, and the game froze my system when I fired a weapon during the intro.
How it runs isn't even the biggest problem about this collection, it's the huge artistic changes that were made that ruin or distort the atmosphere the most important part of any SH game.
This is criminal.
RadioHeadAche
Member
I think the most glaring issue is Konami not keeping final code on hand.
Freaky Fred
Banned
works fine for me on PS3
better than the original versions
better than the original versions
SoldierIce64
Member
Judging by those horrible HD ports of Silent Hill 2 and 3, you're a lot better off just playing them on PS2 if you can.
But I have a feeling Konami will do a future re-release of some of the older SH games in order to build up even more hype for Silent Hills. That's just my thought, though.
But I have a feeling Konami will do a future re-release of some of the older SH games in order to build up even more hype for Silent Hills. That's just my thought, though.
Exactly.
They hired a mobile games developer, who hadn't done anything more complicated than an arcade game on last-gen hardware.
They need to do it again. And go full collection.
That can't be real.
It is.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
That can't be real.
It's real.
OP, they made the game slightly less awful on PS3, but the 360 version never got the patch. The ports are still offensively bad to anyone who's played the original versions, so I'd recommend you to get them for PS2 or PC rather than the HD port hackjob.
PS3 version, no question. It got a real patch a few months after release that made it playale.
Originally. They then hired Hexadrive to patch it, and they did an insane job at fixing the game. It was night and day after their patch.
ramoisdead
Member
For PS3. Not 360.
And even then, it's not fixed. Better off finding the PC versions.
EDIT: ZOE HD PS3 patch was done by Hexadrive...I wish they patched SH HD Collection.
And even then, it's not fixed. Better off finding the PC versions.
EDIT: ZOE HD PS3 patch was done by Hexadrive...I wish they patched SH HD Collection.
It's pre-patch right? How does it look post-patch?
ss_lemonade
Member
Did they ever fix teeth eyes in sh2?
Well shoot. I don't have the ps2 versions, just the ps3 he collection. It's been in my backlog for a while and I was thinking of starting it. Is it that bad? Or is it at least doable if that is the version I already have? Don't really want to buy them again, I am poor and already spent way too much on gaming and its not like I don't have a backlog of games (getting myself addicted to tomb raider right now).
What was wrong with them?
What was wrong with them?