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A Major DC TV Character Will Come Out Of The Closet
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I can assure you none of your beloved characters are safe. I have a few in the works as I type this. Who will survive a hundred Deathstrokes? Who will have their only remaining eye poked out? Will Tommy finally make his move on Thea?
*bows*
On topic: I had no idea who it was before this thread but now I think it is Alex for sure.
How do you even define "full" representation? If you mean that she's Asian? Yes, she is! However, the distinction that she's half Asian is important to me because I am not half Asian. So yeah, in essence I don't feel she's representing me as a fully Asian person which is why I am disappointed that there aren't more Asian characters in the Berlantiverse. And by saying she's "full representation" it almost feels like you are telling me that they've checked their Asian quota and I should be content with that. Well, I'm not.
I haven't watched enough of Arrow to know about these characters, but looking over their character profiles I'm glad that they're there and seem to be somewhat prominent! Tell me they're not just in Season 3 however.
How do you even define "full" representation? If you mean that she's Asian? Yes, she is! However, the distinction that she's half Asian is important to me because I am not half Asian. So yeah, in essence I don't feel she's representing me as a fully Asian person which is why I am disappointed that there aren't more Asian characters in the Berlantiverse. And by saying she's "full representation" it almost feels like you are telling me that they've checked their Asian quota and I should be content with that. Well, I'm not.
I haven't watched enough of Arrow to know about these characters, but looking over their character profiles I'm glad that they're there and seem to be somewhat prominent! Tell me they're not just in Season 3 however.
No, you're putting words in my mouth. I've specifically said multiple times I think there should be more Asian representation. So don't accuse me of saying they're meeting some imagined quota. But we're going to have to agree to disagree on multiracial here. I'm never going to think of a multiracial actor as representation with an asterisk.
Katana has an appearance in S4, but their family storyline starts and finishes in S3. Nyssa has very consistent appearances in S3 and S4. Off the top of my head there's Asian characters with speaking roles in every episode in S3, or at least most of them.
I saw that you stated there should be more Asian representation, it's just that I felt your following sentence did not jive with that sentiment. I mean, I guess you could think of a multiracial actor as not being a representation with an asterisk but it definitely matters. It's why the Olivia Munns of the world will make it up top while everyone else is still struggling. I'm not saying things aren't progressing, I'm just saying it's not happening fast enough and I would love the Berlantiverse to step it up a notch.
I really don't want to go too deep down this rabbit hole, but if you think multiracial people suddenly have all the advantages over others, you're very much mistaken. Especially in Asia, and the Asian film and television market. Anthony Wong didn't spend decades playing villains because he wanted to. Whenever you single out a multiracial person with an asterisk, there's always a subtle tinge "not X enough" or "not a real X". There's an exclusionary undercurrent to being multiracial that people ignore. That's why it's matters when people feel compelled to put the asterisk in.
Anyway I'm done with this, I don't like going deep into serious issues on GAF, especially not in DC TV threads. Disagree if you want, I'm not here to change anybody's mind except that Cry for Justice is the greatest book ever.
I would watch this pairing with the vengeance of thousands suns.
I can assure you none of your beloved characters are safe. I have a few in the works as I type this. Who will survive a hundred Deathstrokes? Who will have their only remaining eye poked out? Will Tommy finally make his move on Thea?
Wait, aren't they sib.....
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We're not talking about in Asia, we're talking about in America.
Again, you keep reaching to other discussions and issues that are irrelevant to the topic at hand. It's pretty much an "all lives matter" type argument you're pulling right now where I keep talking about wanting more fully Asian people but you keep stating that multicultural people have their own problems. Which yes, they do, but that's not what I'm talking about right now.
And I DEFINITELY think that in America half Asian people are far more prominent compared to fully Asian People in Hollywood when trying to portray Asian Americans in shows where being Asian isn't part of the main premise of the story (i.e. Fresh Off the Boat, Dr. Ken, etc.).
I will also cease to discuss this if only because we're veering off the main topic of the thread and steering away attention from the need for diversity in terms of sexuality on TV. I apologize for that. Might make another thread instead.
Alex would be nice. The alternative is Winn and I need him to be Supergirl's Cisco-Barry hybrid.
Arrow had Celina Jade, Byron Mann, Rila Fukushima, Karl Yune, Kelly Hu and Katrina Law in major roles. Six people of varying Asian descent. Six people that have all one thing in common: they go to kick major ass on the show. Five of them are of course Asian-American but that is to be expected. For the half-Asian versus full-Asian debate, more than half of the Asian-Americans are of mixed descent, with Asian-Americans already not being a big group.
Arrow had Celina Jade, Byron Mann, Rila Fukushima, Karl Yune, Kelly Hu and Katrina Law in major roles. Six people of varying Asian descent. Six people that have all one thing in common: they go to kick major ass on the show. Five of them are of course Asian-American but that is to be expected. For the half-Asian versus full-Asian debate, more than half of the Asian-Americans are of mixed descent, with Asian-Americans already not being a big group.
As stated before, I don't watch Arrow so I'll have to concede that if they are as prominent as you and Zero say they are then I'll give it to them. However, they sure as hell still need work then in their other three shows if Arrow is pulling all the weight outside of Jow.
Also, I'm gonna need a citation on that more than half Americans are of mixed descent considering this Pew paper states 74% of Asian Americans are foreign born and 62% state they identify with their country of origin which although doesn't explicitly state that they aren't of mixed descent, it heavily implies they are not. And by mixed descent I mean half-Asian specifically. Will concede the Asian Americans do make up only about 6% of the country.
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/asianamericans-graphics/
I am also wondering if someone in the alternate Flashpoint universe is gay. Like maybe on their world Barry is gay. That would be cheap though considering it would be a one off and not fully explore their sexuality like they stated they would in the OP.
My mistake, I misread the Census data. It is 14 million Asian-American, 17 million including those with multiracial. I thought it was 17 million separate.
http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-11.pdf
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Obviously:
or maybe a left field reveal!
or maybe a left field reveal!
ConfusingJazz
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It is at this point that I realize I have zero memory of what happened to Thea or Malcolm Meryln at the end of last season.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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lol, I still have at least eight episodes to catch up on.
Arrow didn't do a great job of holding my attention this go-around.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Thea is taking some time to chill. Merlyn...I literally have no clue. He pops in and out randomly. I can't remember what happened to him after they escaped the underground city.
This never gets old.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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This is going down a weird path.
johnnydrama
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With nothing left to lose, Captain Chesthair finally gives into the temptation, and ends up spending a hot and steamy night with Walter Steele.
ClivePwned
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It should be Thea who comes out just so Ollie can sulk about her keeping secrets for 5 seasons.
I dunno. Inclusive is good.
I dunno. Inclusive is good.
Well Hawkgirl was a latinx, no?
And Arrow is adding Rick Gonzalez as one of Arrow's pupils.
I would say she's bisexual, knowing her interactions with women and Oliver.
WrenchNinja
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Most embarrassing part is all these shows are filmed in Vancouver. You telling me you can't find any Asians in Vancouver?
Backstory. His parents threw him out for being gay. Barry did fix that.
Arrow just cast Josh Segarra and Supergirl cast Floriana Lima, both as series regulars. Every show except Legends will have a Latino regular, and every show has three or more POC going into this season.
And if you want to branch out into other Berlanti products, the upcoming Riverdale has black, Latino, Asian regulars and a Polynesian lead.
She's white, black, Native American and Indian.
Tekomandor
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Yes, those sites possessed of this thing we call 'a sense of humor'.
Nice. I haven't really kept up with casting news outside of Flash so this is nice to see.
How many times has this man been told one of his daughters is dead? I'm not being cute, I've seriously lost track.
Three times.
Dandy Lyin
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And then they couldn't tell him when Sara came back. Twice!
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