I'm sure he is in a much better position to know than even our most respected resident tech guys
Yeah, he did fine and the Sess didn't toss him softball questions at all.
The power difference argument in a nutshell seems to be that the bone has a more "balanced" design with fewer bottlenecks, so that in the end the practical results will be negligible.
Do I have that right? I get the bottleneck part, but not the balance part so much. Balancing what and what?
you really gonna sit here and say that MS engineers have no idea what GPU specs mean or what they are doing? lol cmon son
Honestly I don't see how that shows GAF got to him at all. His posts always come off as clear and level-headed. He has an opinion on this and he thinks things aren't as black and white as many here are making it out to be. Doesn't really sound passive aggressive at all tbh.
People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest graphics programmers IN THE WORLD. We CREATED DirectX, the standard APIs that everyone programs against. So while people laude Sony for their HW skills, do you really think we dont know how to build a system optimized for maximizing graphics for programmers? Seriously? There is no way were giving up a 30%+ advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has seen both systems running could say there are great looking games on both systems. If there was really huge performance difference it would be obvious.
I get a ton of hate for saying this but its been the same EVERY generation. Sony claims more power, they did it with Cell, they did it with Emotion Engine, and they are doing it again. And, in the end, games on our system looked the same or better.
I am employed by MSFT, and I post on this forum. I posted and lurked this forum before I was an employee. Please do not equate 'being paid by X company to post' with 'being paid by X company and posting'. I'd imagine my org would probably not want me to post here.
You think the average Joe gamer is going to tell the difference?? I know you and I will... but from what I can tell Albert is thinking more the mainstream gamers.
Maybe I am reaching here..
Can you state any launch games on either system that is head and shoulders above??
Perhaps you are right but I was supporting Albert more for what he said and to ignore the nonsense compared to what he knows to be true based on actually working on the machine and talking with devs as they are making the games on these machines.
I'm sure he is in a much better position to know than even our most respected resident tech guys
Nope. He is identified as a Microsoft employee and posts under his real name.Doesn't NeoGaf have a policy against people like Albert posting here? We're all biased, but he is payed to be.
Doesn't NeoGaf have a policy against people like Albert posting here? We're all biased, but he is payed to be.
Albert is just saying that their bet on ESRAM will pay off just like they bet on EDRAM.
And that's it. For more information, please talk to Todd Holmdahl.
Doesn't NeoGaf have a policy against people like Albert posting here? We're all biased, but he is payed to be.
Doesn't NeoGaf have a policy against people like Albert posting here? We're all biased, but he is payed to be.
Doesn't NeoGaf have a policy against people like Albert posting here? We're all biased, but he is payed to be.
Doesn't NeoGaf have a policy against people like Albert posting here? We're all biased, but he is payed to be.
The XBox One is a new console. A shiny new gadget that gets us excited and practically sells itself. Instead of riding that wave of momentum, Microsoft decided to introduce policies that had us question "how much are these guys going to screw me", then after an unprecedented 180 we're left with PR folk that are hopping on the trolley to the Land of Make-Believe when discussing raw specs. It's like Microsoft is sabotaging itself for launch day.
Doesn't NeoGaf have a policy against people like Albert posting here? We're all biased, but he is payed to be.
It would seem to me that we've reached such a high level of graphic fidelity that a 30-40% difference wouldn't be terribly noticeable. As graphics continue to improve, it becomes exponentially more difficult to "wow" audiences with improvements.
Doesn't NeoGaf have a policy against people like Albert posting here? We're all biased, but he is payed to be.
The most obvious point is that anyone looking at games on both platforms do not see ANY difference, let alone this alleged 30% - 40%. Both systems are powerful. Both are capable of next-gen graphics. I'm merely saying the application of that performance will mean the actual difference will not be that great.
Doesn't NeoGaf have a policy against people like Albert posting here? We're all biased, but he is payed to be.
which is still more options than the apple app store , google play , steam , impulse , origin and any others i'm forgetting
Perhaps you guys should explain to your potential audience what's in your system that apparently bridges the gap between these two systems. Sony has been open about their system specs and Microsoft has not. The GPU and RAM advantages of the PS4 are there for everyone to see but Microsoft is not doing anything at all to dismiss the raw numbers or demonstrate WHY the numbers are deceiving. This is especially important considering the apparent lack of architectural differences of each system. If there's something in your system (such as extra chips for handling compute or some other level of customization) then why aren't you talking about it!? It's not like your competition can respond at this point. I mean you say that your company wouldn't let Sony get away with such an advantage but in the minds of gamers, that's exactly what you're doing. Making the assumption that they're "all bark and no bite" is probably not a good idea.
I appreciate that you're not on here spouting a bunch of PR BS but I (and I'm sure many others) would really appreciate a bit of transparency when it comes to the actual hardware. If you expect people to pay an extra $100 for your system, shouldn't we at least be allowed to know what's powering it and what puts it in line with the competition?
insiders on Gaf was what made Gaf in the early 2000's. Stop trying to run them out.
Albert is open about his job and position. He has the right to post like anyone else.
Nope. He is identified as a Microsoft employee and posts under his real name.
What is not allowed is shill while pretending to not be a shill.
If it wasn't allowed it would say "Banned" under his user name.
Doesn't NeoGaf have a policy against people like Albert posting here? We're all biased, but he is payed to be.
Most people posting on GAF as an insider or any kind of company position gets verified by mods privately.Doesn't NeoGaf have a policy against people like Albert posting here? We're all biased, but he is payed to be.
These arguments have been handled before. Cell Phones <> Consoles <> PCs. Stop it with the false equivalencies.
Doesn't NeoGaf have a policy against people like Albert posting here? We're all biased, but he is payed to be.
The power difference argument in a nutshell seems to be that the bone has a more "balanced" design with fewer bottlenecks, so that in the end the practical results will be negligible.
Do I have that right? I get the bottleneck part, but not the balance part so much. Balancing what and what?
On the other hand, the technology and computer science involved in this issue isn't secret voodoo either.
Or he can't openly admit that while still wanting to keep his job.
What I thought was interesting is that apparently Major Nelson tried to get a GAF account in the past but was never approved (from Albert's mouth)?
Perhaps you are right but I was supporting Albert more for what he said and to ignore the nonsense compared to what he knows to be true based on actually working on the machine and talking with devs as they are making the games on these machines.
I'm sure he is in a much better position to know than even our most respected resident tech guys
Doesn't NeoGaf have a policy against people like Albert posting here? We're all biased, but he is payed to be.
True story about this interview:
I made poor Adam wait for me for like 20 min. I had totally underestimated the fact it was going to take me NEARLY AN HOUR to find parking at PAX. So I was totally frustrated, had been in a car in traffic for over 90 minutes, and was RUSHING into the convention center. I had just walked in, and had been keeping him and his crew waiting. So I sat down, and we rolled no prep or anything. Im surprised I didnt come across as a complete buffoon given how cold I came into this.
I also found out this was going to be on-camera, which Im not a big fan of, because, well look at me. I have a face for Radio.
Anyway I appreciate the kind comments.
Im not going to get into this PR thing again. There are clearly people who understand, and people who dont. Ive been a GAF member for a while, and was a reader long before that. Ive been in gaming my entire professional career, and a player since videogames EXISTED. I come on GAF because I want to. I dont get paid to post here or any other silly nonsense. Occasionally, the PR team will roll me out to do official interviews, which Im not really a huge fan of doing.
Regarding the Kinect video I was talking about. There are several, but the one I like best is this. Also this is now several months old. Latency is even better now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi5kMNfgDS4
Disc install Turns out, at this point the speed and throughput of the consoles exceeds the transfer speeds of the disc. I dont have the exact numbers, but the reason BOTH CONSOLES do mandatory installs is because youd be actually giving up a ton of potential performance by bottlenecking the systems at the read speeds of the disc. Even on 360 games like GTAV are mandatory HDD installs at this point reading from disc is just too slow. On top of which, the instant game switching feature goes away
Performance: Im not dismissing raw performance. Im stating as I have stated from the beginning that the performance delta between the two platforms is not as great as the raw numbers lead the average consumer to believe. There are things about our system architecture not fully understood, and there are things about theirs as well, that bring the two systems into balance.
People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest graphics programmers IN THE WORLD. We CREATED DirectX, the standard APIs that everyone programs against. So while people laude Sony for their HW skills, do you really think we dont know how to build a system optimized for maximizing graphics for programmers? Seriously? There is no way were giving up a 30%+ advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has seen both systems running could say there are great looking games on both systems. If there was really huge performance difference it would be obvious.
I get a ton of hate for saying this but its been the same EVERY generation. Sony claims more power, they did it with Cell, they did it with Emotion Engine, and they are doing it again. And, in the end, games on our system looked the same or better.
Im not saying they havent built a good system Im merely saying that anyone who wants to die on their sword over this 30%+ power advantage are going to be fighting an uphill battle over the next 10 years
Clearly he is verging on having a Jeff Bell moment here but I find it amusing.
You've got to be kidding me lol.Clearly he is verging on having a Jeff Bell moment here but I find it amusing.
As long as employees from these companies states who they are and who they work for it's all right
What I thought was interesting is that apparently Major Nelson tried to get a GAF account in the past but was never approved (from Albert's mouth)?
I'm sure also, but you wait till the games are out and people are counting sparks.
You've got to be kidding me lol.
afaik pr people like community managers are not welcome here...
Forza 5 and Ryse look better than anything coming for PS4 day one.
Forza 5 and Ryse look better than anything coming for PS4 day one.
Forza 5 and Ryse look better than anything coming for PS4 day one.