I think it's more the artstyle than the character designs themselves but yeah I agree.
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ARMS - Nintendo Switch (Motion [optional] controlled boxing, Nintendo, Spring 2017)
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I think it's more the artstyle than the character designs themselves but yeah I agree.
Interestingly enough, I think that attitude actually allows characters to keep playing even after losing a significant amount. Having teammates to lean on and "blame" for loses takes some of the pressure off of you. Everyone does it, even if they don't vocalize their frustrations.
1v1 games rarely have a huge following for this exact reason. Besides fighting games, the only comparable phenomenon was Starcraft, but LoL and Dota supplanted it due to these team mechanics and how they provide a lower barrier to entry.
I agree that letting ARMS be standalone is probably the best idea for the most part, but a cameo or secret character that's not part of the promotion cycle would still allow for that; similar to Donkey Kong's inclusion in Punch-Out. But I guess that being a revival of an established IP as opposed to an entirely new one puts it in a different situation.
As for the amiibo, trainable AI in the vein of Smash Bros. would seem to be the most straightforward implementation. I'm curious about the possible pose they could use as well - retracting the arms too much would miss the point of the designs; and it'd be difficult to give them any sort of complicated contorted configuration with amiibo's size and production quality. Maybe one arm 'retracted' to a normal length and at their side and another raised upwards in a victory pose, with a transparent plastic cylinder supporting the raised arm from inside?
RoadHazard
Gold Member
This looks so weak to me. It's basically Wii Sports Boxing made into a full game. Doesn't mean it won't be fun, but from what they've shown this better not be more than ~$20.
It's been set to private
Any mirrors?
there's probably something out there, but they eventually uploaded all the segments from the day 1 stream separately, so day 2 is surely coming
Dark Cloud
Member
They haven't shown everything.
Do you seriously think this is the whole game? C'mon now.
I played it last night at the NYC event and it was easily the best thing I played. It feels fresh and was super fun. There is a surprising amount of depth and the motion controls work flawlessly. My arms didn't even get tired, probably because unlike Wii boxing you aren't continually punching. There is more tilting, and thrusting, and button pressing. I got to play two matches, one with Ribbon girl and one with the ninja character. It is easily a must purchase for me.
Lightning_Roller
Banned
If the silent movie character doesn't look like Charlie Chaplin, I'll riot.
Parapraxis
Member
Honest question. People are comparing this to Overwatch...why?
StreetsAhead
Member
Liek those. Some I thought of:
Cowboy/girl with rope arms
Botanist with vine arms
An actual octopus with twisted tentacles
Clown with connected colorful scarf arms
Mechanic with tire arms
Colorful, diverse cast in a new IP? Not saying I 100% agree with the statement but I don't see it as a stretch either.
Parapraxis
Member
Colorful, diverse cast in a new IP? Not saying I 100% agree with the statement but I don't see it as a stretch either.
Okay, I was assuming gameplay-wise as that's how most games are compared. Style makes more sense.
Yeah, and I think the 1-on-1 aspect adds to the intensity. Also, matches will be super quick, you could probably boot up and knock out a few rounds in under 10 minutes. Super accessible.
Speaking of accessible, it controls in a way that pretty much any age group can jump in and play. I know people make the Wii boxing comparison, but this is clearly cleaner, quicker, more responsive, more polished and it has that layer of depth there for people who want to git gud. The whole "rock paper scissors" meta game analogy they used on the Treehouse was an excellent way of explaining it and it's a concept almost anyone can grasp and relate to.
I could see my 9-year-old nephew, or my near-30s non-gamer friends jumping right into Arms and having a blast fighting with me. A game like Overwatch doesn't offer that in the slightest. It's accessible for gamers who aren't normally huge into FPS (I'm in that category) but, at its core, it's an FPS and those control schemes are traditionally too much for true novices to handle. This is just a few simple arm motions and the triggers.
Looks so intense!
I just thought of how cool it might be to play this with two Switches linked up in tabletop mode with the players standing across a table from each other. I appreciate the potential for local multi-player that Switch is bringing to the table. I know people rag on 1,2 Switch, but I like the concept of scenarios where players are facing toward each other, rather than facing the same screen.
Dark Cloud
Member
Isn't ARMS the game Nintendo would want to have a 4 player mode? Good brand new IP that can take off and get people to spend money on joy cons
synce
Member
Looks like another failed attempt to make a fighting game from a company that knows nothing about fighting games. Remember that Kinect thing for Xbone? It reminds me of that. Hitting the opponent looks like a complete guessing game given how the move takes forever to reach them.
At least the characters look kind of cool, but I said the same thing about the Xbone game, who's name I don't even remember. I think this should've been a pack-in if they wanted anyone to play it
At least the characters look kind of cool, but I said the same thing about the Xbone game, who's name I don't even remember. I think this should've been a pack-in if they wanted anyone to play it
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Aldric
Member
Artstyle is pretty reminiscent of hero shooters like Overwatch or Battleborn. lt has that modern western cartoon esthetics that isn't common for Nintendo IPs.
Dark Cloud
Member
I feel like I'm on Gamefaqs. 😑
If only Nintendo could hire the guys who makes Smash Bros games which are the best selling fighting games on the market.
Oh well, sucks to be Nintendo.
Schnozberry
Member
You should watch some more footage. It's quite a bit deeper than Wii Sports Boxing, and the mechanics offer a lot more nuance.
Nah, that's fair to say; I think.
What's the first "failed" attempt? Surely not Smash, the best selling fighting videogame franchise behind Tekken.
Alx
Member
Fighting games are mostly guessing games anyway, and Arms doesn't seem to be any different. It's still the same old rules : guard beats punch, throw beats guard, punch beats throw. And evade beats some punches and not others. It's all about guessing what your opponent will do to use the appropriate counter-measure.
Ocarina_117
Banned
This game is CRYING for a special appearance from Monkey D Luffy. Pls Nintendo, pls Oda.
In ARMS, fighters are always aiming each other regardless of where they are moving. It's the same as having an automatic Z-Target at all times. Unless they set it to a button (which would mess up the Joy-Con Scheme) or do it automatically (which would be annoying and disruptive) it wouldn't work.
Still, maybe an 4-player Boss Rush Co-op Mode is an option, since they would all be aiming at the same enemy. Has potential, even if there were few ways to interact with your allies.
Another option for 4 players is simply sharing the Joy-Con with a friend, each one controls an arm. Could ben fun, specially in a less serious play session.
Absolutely not, you are not the only one
But go take a look to Power Stone
THAT is the real inspiration
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
The color palette and some of the textures remind me of street fighter 4.
UnemployedVillain
Member
You give the poster too much credit. It was pure nonsensical trolling, since Nintendo's only attempts at fighting games have been what? Smash? Custom Robo?
I haven't seen any precision required when it comes to curving punches (or motion controls in general). Looks like the same animation every time. I think this game is going to play just fine with regular controls.
dhalsim tho
UnemployedVillain
Member
It's definitely not. I think it was in the Treehouse video where they said the timing of the twist can determine how much it curves
This game is actually a melting pot of inspirations from the looks of it:
- Punch-Out!! and Wii Boxing for the boxing part, obviously
- Virtual On for the midrange combat: never quite close combat, never quite longrange combat
- Overwatch for the hero-type characters
- Powerstone for the arenas
- Windjammers for the color palette, the upbeat, summer sports-y feel, the small, contained environments and the emphasis on movement and counterattacks.
- Inspector Gadget for the spring arms
So far I seem to be the only one picking up on the Windjammers vibe though. You guys make me sad
.edit: see next post
CoconutTank
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Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
I am so excited to pass the controllers around at a little shindig or something. This looks so fun!
I think I misunderstood UnemployedVillain, I thought it had something to do with how you much twist the controller. That doesn't really sound different than timing the press of a button in a fighting game, though. But you're both right that there's a certain nuance to the curving punches.
I love how the Switch lineup is both charming and creepy. Arms is colorful and quirky, but the characters have had their goddamn arms removed and replaced with fucking springs. It's a disturbing kind of mutilation made into a quirky, fun aesthetic.
Snipperclips is hyper-adorable and looks fun as hell, but it has some weird sexual undertones (I might just be a creep, tbh) that I can't help but think of when watching it be played. It's especially emphasized when you hear players talking while playing: "Get on me! Ok, cut me!" It sounds like a goddamn sado-masochistic act. Love it.
I hope we see more creepy/cute games from Nintendo and others.
Snipperclips is hyper-adorable and looks fun as hell, but it has some weird sexual undertones (I might just be a creep, tbh) that I can't help but think of when watching it be played. It's especially emphasized when you hear players talking while playing: "Get on me! Ok, cut me!" It sounds like a goddamn sado-masochistic act. Love it.
I hope we see more creepy/cute games from Nintendo and others.
It could be thought of like a racing game with digital steering. How much your turning doesn't matter (I think) but you're still steering regardless.
Dynamic curving isn't as important for chars like Mummy or Mechanica I think (Mech has a lot of spread options and Mummy has his balls of absurd hitbox), but Spring and Ninjara probably will use it a good deal.