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Automotive Discussion Thread | OT3 | Playing with our sticks while petting Jaguars!

v1lla21

Member
Lol, Akim. No one is gonna talk you out of a beautiful M2 with low mileage. Definitely get a pre-purchase inspection done.
 

Akim

Banned
Hah, thanks all. I will be taking it to a local shop for a PPI for sure.

It's a DCT, feel free to roast me for not driving stick :)


e: could take up to 21 days for delivery though
 

GHG

Member
Welp boys and girls, after a couple of months looking for a car, I think I found the one. I had been looking at the Cayman, Evora, 4C, M2, F-Type, old 911s.

Saw a 2017 M2 at Carmax with 6100 miles. Price wasn't great (classic Carmax) but since M2s are so hard to find at the moment I decided to go for it anyway. They also offered $2500 more on my trade than the dealership.

Haven't bought the car yet, so nothing is official, but I paid the transfer fee and it is on its way to Seattle. Feel free to talk me out of this one.

h7kypSG.jpg

Great colour, great car, if you want it just do it.
 

SiteSeer

Member
Welp boys and girls, after a couple of months looking for a car, I think I found the one. I had been looking at the Cayman, Evora, 4C, M2, F-Type, old 911s.

Saw a 2017 M2 at Carmax with 6100 miles. Price wasn't great (classic Carmax) but since M2s are so hard to find at the moment I decided to go for it anyway. They also offered $2500 more on my trade than the dealership.

Haven't bought the car yet, so nothing is official, but I paid the transfer fee and it is on its way to Seattle. Feel free to talk me out of this one.

nice find, if it doesn't put you out, then why not. one has gotta live.
 
2 pics...




That's my brother's Mazdaspeed3 and it's demented smile behind it lol.

Unfortunately, it started sprinkling when I was out there so I had to haul ass and put it back in my garage. I'll take some more tomorrow though, and hopefully a better spot, not curbside to my house lol.

Anyway, I was gonna quote y'all but I realized it's a lot so I'll just say thanks for the love y'all!

Wait, jongkookie without a Miata?

#notmyjongkookie

Congrats!

Haha, it feels weird not to have the Miata especially since I've got a scale model of it on my desk... gotta find a Mk7 GTI now to replace it too lol.

Amazing. I love the shifter in these cars, fantastically fun cars. Take pictures of the interiors and stuff, I'm curious what you've got, too. I think the black color on these models look great.

Congrats! I love MX-5's too, but after hearing your fender bender problem last time, it's great you finally found your new car.

Yeah the shifter in this is really good. Obviously it's not bolt-action like the S2000 or my Miata, but it has a really satisfying click when it gets in gear and that clutch is really light. Contrast that to the Focus ST(that I test drove too after the GTI yesterday) which not only had a really vague clutch, the shifter was stupidly vague as well.

Wow, this feels like a really important milestone for you. We are Miata bros no more but it sounds like you were ready for a change and I can totally understand that. As much as I like mine it could never be my only car. Congrats man and enjoy the GTI! Definitely post many pics later when you get a chance.

Luckily I remember the clutch in the GTI being super easy to learn and modulate. I haven't driven one with the PP but I do remember the base car having a really nice feeling shifter that was very easy to get a long with.

I'm not gonna lie, I think I could've lived a little bit more longer(the end of the year at least) with the Miata and I was willing to do that if I wasn't gonna get the deal I wanted for the GTI, but yeah I was just ready for something different.

I probably could write an essay about this but I'll just sum it up by saying that the Miata represented my youth in its purest form. But as I turned 26 last year, and 27 just 2 weeks ago(so this is also sort of a birthday present for myself haha), I realized that growing up isn't all that bad.

Alright before I get sappy, I'm gonna go for a night drive then sign up at VWVortex lol.
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Lmao you came at the right time...



Funny enough I already got stuck in stop and go traffic on the highway on the way home and I think I've already got the clutch figured out lol.

Will post better pics later.

Very happy for you, dude. Congrats!
 

Buttons

Member
Your GTI looks soo much better than the Mazda jongkookie, you definitely made the right decision. It looks gorgeous. And welcome to owning a black car, the day I picked up my SLK it started raining the second after I got into the car and the shiny clean car became a water-stained dirty car. Washed it the day after and on my first drive to work it rained again.... xD

That M2 is amazing Akim, I love that colour. Go for it, you'll definitely enjoy the car. It's my favourite current BMW, so sexy.
 

Malvolio

Member
If you're going to flash a manual GTI be sure to have money set aside for a clutch. Everything I've read warns that it's perfectly capable of handling stock HP and torque, but little more than that.

Congrats on the purchase!
 

Blitzhex

Member
You 100% need a clutch upgrade if you're flashing anything to a manual gti. The 6 speed DSG can handle much more torque, and the 7 speed even more, up to 800nm I believe.

I sold my mk7 gti couple months ago after 3.5 years of ownership and it never skipped a beat. It was sort of more fun on the street than my new rs3 because you could go WOT on it all day, whereas on the rs3 I have to feather the throttle.
 
Hah, thanks all. I will be taking it to a local shop for a PPI for sure.

It's a DCT, feel free to roast me for not driving stick :)


e: could take up to 21 days for delivery though

No worries, I don't think anyone can really blame you. I think all the M2's in the Bay Area last year were DCT. I couldn't find a manual transmission in any of the M2's in Bay Area or East Bay Area. It's sad. Manuals are definitely dying out as years pass. But the DCT is still great on these cars.

21 days is a long time to wait though...why that long?
 
Anyway, I was gonna quote y'all but I realized it's a lot so I'll just say thanks for the love y'all!

So what are your plans for the car? Are you going to autocross or track the car? I've seen some of these on the track and I think they look really fun to drive out there.
 

matmanx1

Member
Hah, thanks all. I will be taking it to a local shop for a PPI for sure.

It's a DCT, feel free to roast me for not driving stick :)


e: could take up to 21 days for delivery though

No roasting needed. The DCT is a great gearbox and probably the better choice for anyone who's going to be driving their BMW in places with lots of stop and go traffic.
 

Akim

Banned
So what are your plans for the car? Are you going to autocross or track the car? I've seen some of these on the track and I think they look really fun to drive out there.

Apparently when they ship a car, they give it up to whatever company they contract to do the move. The company just sits around until they have enough cars to move to that location so they don't just have to transport one car. 21 days was the timeframe they gave me, but I'm hoping it's shorter.

I'm already looking at getting tint, xpel, a dash cam, and radar detector. Can't wait to be absolutely broke.

No roasting needed. The DCT is a great gearbox and probably the better choice for anyone who's going to be driving their BMW in places with lots of stop and go traffic.

Haha, thanks.I haven't driven a manual since I was 17, and I don't really want to learn. Plus, Seattle traffic.
 
Who's ready for some more GTI pics? Lol.







Very happy for you, dude. Congrats!

Thanks again y'all!

Grats on the GTI! Who takes up the mantle of resident Miata fanboy now ? ��

That's an excellent question. I'm sure somebody can rise to the occasion, we do still have a lot of Miata owners here lol.

So what are your plans for the car? Are you going to autocross or track the car? I've seen some of these on the track and I think they look really fun to drive out there.

Another excellent question lol. It's my daily driver but I'd definitely love to track or autox it in the future. And yeah, I've seen them on the track and autox as well and they definitely look like they're having fun out there.

What I'm sorta hoping to do in the future(like 3-5 years from now lol), is to keep the GTI as my daily then pick up another Miata as my weekend/race car. But this is years out and I've already spent a year here talking about buying a car so I'll save y'all the annoyance haha.

You 100% need a clutch upgrade if you're flashing anything to a manual gti. The 6 speed DSG can handle much more torque, and the 7 speed even more, up to 800nm I believe.

I sold my mk7 gti couple months ago after 3.5 years of ownership and it never skipped a beat. It was sort of more fun on the street than my new rs3 because you could go WOT on it all day, whereas on the rs3 I have to feather the throttle.

Good to know it'll last me at least 3 years as I'm looking forward to keeping it even a lot longer than that.

As for the clutch upgrade, do you still really need it even for the stage 1 apr?

Finally, is VW serious about these cars taking regular gas/87 octane? I opened up the fuel flap today and I sorta don't believe it. I mean, I'd love it if I can just put regular gas in it since that's at least 30cents cheaper than premium, but I wouldn't mind putting premium in it either as I'm already used to the prices anyway lol.
 

Blitzhex

Member
Good to know it'll last me at least 3 years as I'm looking forward to keeping it even a lot longer than that.

As for the clutch upgrade, do you still really need it even for the stage 1 apr?

Finally, is VW serious about these cars taking regular gas/87 octane? I opened up the fuel flap today and I sorta don't believe it. I mean, I'd love it if I can just put regular gas in it since that's at least 30cents cheaper than premium, but I wouldn't mind putting premium in it either as I'm already used to the prices anyway lol.

Clutch will slip eventually at stage 1, it's the only part in the car that's built to spec.

I only had 93/94 octane (98 ron) going into it, I personally wouldn't put anything lower in it just to not have the o2 sensors go off over low fuel quality.
 

v1lla21

Member
Yeah due to how much torque you'll be getting with the stage 1 tune you're definitely gonna need to upgrade that clutch.

I've never put anything other than 91 in my car. I just hit 100k in my 2010 and it still runs great. only major problem I've had was the intake manifold but that was covered by warranty.
 

Futaba

Member
Come on jongkookie, don't say you're going to post gti pics then just put up a bunch if porn pics, get some gti pics up!
 
Who's ready for some more GTI pics? Lol.









Thanks again y'all!

Those are some sweet Forza Vista screenshots right there. It looks so real. Even the interior shots are great.

Great looking car, man. Hopefully you do fantastic things with this car and create memories with friends and family, too.
 
Clutch will slip eventually at stage 1, it's the only part in the car that's built to spec.

I only had 93/94 octane (98 ron) going into it, I personally wouldn't put anything lower in it just to not have the o2 sensors go off over low fuel quality.

In that case, I'm definitely gonna budget in a clutch upgrade along with stage 1. Luckily Dallas has a bunch of VW specialists that are also APR dealers so I'll be making my way over there when I'm ready.

Yeah due to how much torque you'll be getting with the stage 1 tune you're definitely gonna need to upgrade that clutch.

I've never put anything other than 91 in my car. I just hit 100k in my 2010 and it still runs great. only major problem I've had was the intake manifold but that was covered by warranty.

As for the gas, yeah we only 93 here in Texas and I believe the rest of the country minus Cali, and it's 30 cents more expensive. But recently the prices have gone up pretty bad coz of hurricane Harvey... hell, just this week actually, there was an artificial shortage of gas coz people thought we'd be out for an entire week. Had to put 87(mid and premium were nowhere to be found) in my Miata the night before I sold it and felt bad... I immediately felt the engine retard and pull timing the moment I pulled out of the gas station.

For the moment, I might run 87 while this artificial gas shortage straightens out. Before the shortage, a gallon of 93 was $2.45, now it's $3 while 87 was around $2 and now it's at $2.50 lol.

Those are some sweet Forza Vista screenshots right there. It looks so real. Even the interior shots are great.

Great looking car, man. Hopefully you do fantastic things with this car and create memories with friends and family, too.

Funny you mention that... I'd already take it upon myself and lightly troll somebody with my car:

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Funny you mention that... I'd already take it upon myself and lightly troll somebody with my car:

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It'd be an even better troll if you were able to somehow park your car on top of the Si. I'm kidding. I take it you know the other driver?

Also, gas in the Bay Area is already more expensive now, too...
 

Blitzhex

Member
Get the euro LED gti tail lights fitted. I have no idea why you guys get the base golf tail lights in america on all models, they look SO BAD.
Also get the headlights with the U shape LED DRLs too, they look a lot better. All OEM parts should be readily available.
 

matmanx1

Member
Who's ready for some more GTI pics? Lol.









Thanks again y'all!



That's an excellent question. I'm sure somebody can rise to the occasion, we do still have a lot of Miata owners here lol.



Another excellent question lol. It's my daily driver but I'd definitely love to track or autox it in the future. And yeah, I've seen them on the track and autox as well and they definitely look like they're having fun out there.

What I'm sorta hoping to do in the future(like 3-5 years from now lol), is to keep the GTI as my daily then pick up another Miata as my weekend/race car. But this is years out and I've already spent a year here talking about buying a car so I'll save y'all the annoyance haha.



Good to know it'll last me at least 3 years as I'm looking forward to keeping it even a lot longer than that.

As for the clutch upgrade, do you still really need it even for the stage 1 apr?

Finally, is VW serious about these cars taking regular gas/87 octane? I opened up the fuel flap today and I sorta don't believe it. I mean, I'd love it if I can just put regular gas in it since that's at least 30cents cheaper than premium, but I wouldn't mind putting premium in it either as I'm already used to the prices anyway lol.

Looking good. I love the standard GTI interior with those plaid seats. They are attractive and really comfortable at the same time. VW does such a good job with making their interiors feel friendly but also premium. The Japanese and American manufacturers are pretty far behind VW in that regard.

So yours is a 2016 5 door with the Performance Package and the manual? Sounds like a great spec.
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
For the moment, I might run 87 while this artificial gas shortage straightens out. Before the shortage, a gallon of 93 was $2.45, now it's $3 while 87 was around $2 and now it's at $2.50 lol.

The money you save in filling up with regular is negated by the loss of fuel efficiency. Almost every vehicle I've experimented with in that regard (and I have posted links in past OTs with evidence from other sources) experienced usually 20-30 miles less per tank. Or the equivalent of a gallon. So if you save that $3 per tank, you will lose in driving efficiency, hurt performance, and didn't make your engine happy either.

Knock sensors have come a long way, this is true. And they compensate and adjust a lot for the gasoline. But there are still basic limitations of low octane that can't be compensated for. Peak performance requires top quality. I've done this in generic rental cars like Altimas, Passats, Fusions - and every one of them (at the hands of my abuse) all came back with more power and better MPGs. Unbeknownst to me, my mom started filling up her old Volvo S60 T5 with 87 and started complaining to me that her car feels weirder and slower, and that she's filling it up more frequently 10 days vs 14). And I simply asked her if she started to fill up with 87 to save money? And she was. And she didn't do it again after realizing that there's no realistic savings to be had.

Also, when I get my Jaguar loaners, Enterprise (who owns the loaners) fills up 87, as you may know. And my God...going from my XF into their newer XF with less mileage is jarring. And on the same driving cycles (my wife: to and from work) noticeable difference in driving range.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
The money you save in filling up with regular is negated by the loss of fuel efficiency. Almost every vehicle I've experimented with in that regard (and I have posted links in past OTs with evidence from other sources) experienced usually 20-30 miles less per tank. Or the equivalent of a gallon. So if you save that $3 per tank, you will lose in driving efficiency, hurt performance, and didn't make your engine happy either.

Knock sensors have come a long way, this is true. And they compensate and adjust a lot for the gasoline. But there are still basic limitations of low octane that can't be compensated for. Peak performance requires top quality. I've done this in generic rental cars like Altimas, Passats, Fusions - and every one of them (at the hands of my abuse) all came back with more power and better MPGs. Unbeknownst to me, my mom started filling up her old Volvo S60 T5 with 87 and started complaining to me that her car feels weirder and slower, and that she's filling it up more frequently 10 days vs 14). And I simply asked her if she started to fill up with 87 to save money? And she was. And she didn't do it again after realizing that there's no realistic savings to be had.

Also, when I get my Jaguar loaners, Enterprise (who owns the loaners) fills up 87, as you may know. And my God...going from my XF into their newer XF with less mileage is jarring. And on the same driving cycles (my wife: to and from work) noticeable difference in driving range.


Even ignoring the engine math, I get gas discounts of about 10-15 cents per gallon by shopping at QFC (Kroger, etc) that makes my premium the same as regular.
 
It'd be an even better troll if you were able to somehow park your car on top of the Si. I'm kidding. I take it you know the other driver?

Also, gas in the Bay Area is already more expensive now, too...

Nope, dunno who the owner is lol.

The moment I pulled into the lot, I saw the bright blue and knew I had to park there. By the time I got back though, the Si wasn't there. I actually wanted to find out why he chose the Si over other hot hatches since Honda is still being annoying af about these cars(plus it's the 2nd most expensive these days as you can find new FoST's well below the $25k msrp).

On the other hand though, Honda's persistence in needing a hard credit check to test drive the SI meant that they're really limiting their prospective buyers and that pretty much turned me away. The Si was well within my budget but I'm not dumb enough to take a hard credit check for a car that I don't even know that I like/want to buy. Now if it was a soft credit check then that would've been fine, but they explicitly told me it was a hard credit check so yeah... fuck that lol.

Get the euro LED gti tail lights fitted. I have no idea why you guys get the base golf tail lights in america on all models, they look SO BAD.
Also get the headlights with the U shape LED DRLs too, they look a lot better. All OEM parts should be readily available.

I'll probably do the LED tails in the future as what I really want to do first in terms of exterior mods is the LED/HID headlights. But yeah, they're readily available. DAP sells the Magnetti Marelli produced version just without the VW logo for under $700 IIRC.

Looking good. I love the standard GTI interior with those plaid seats. They are attractive and really comfortable at the same time. VW does such a good job with making their interiors feel friendly but also premium. The Japanese and American manufacturers are pretty far behind VW in that regard.

So yours is a 2016 5 door with the Performance Package and the manual? Sounds like a great spec.

Yeah, IMO the leather seats in the GTI tend to rob it of it's character/heritage. I personally like being unique(I mean I drove a bright red Miata for the last 5 years lol) and the quirky things really speak a lot. I like the plaid a lot that I've already the plaid license plate frame from Klii Motorwerkes lol.

And yeah, it's a 2016 5-door 6MT with the PP. The only thing it's really missing is the lighting package I mentioned above but the replicas are cheap enough that I feel that it wasn't worth letting this specific car go due to the PP. If it was a regular non-PP GTI with halogen lights, I would've waited a bit more for a copy that either had the PP or LP if not both.

The money you save in filling up with regular is negated by the loss of fuel efficiency. Almost every vehicle I've experimented with in that regard (and I have posted links in past OTs with evidence from other sources) experienced usually 20-30 miles less per tank. Or the equivalent of a gallon. So if you save that $3 per tank, you will lose in driving efficiency, hurt performance, and didn't make your engine happy either.

Knock sensors have come a long way, this is true. And they compensate and adjust a lot for the gasoline. But there are still basic limitations of low octane that can't be compensated for. Peak performance requires top quality. I've done this in generic rental cars like Altimas, Passats, Fusions - and every one of them (at the hands of my abuse) all came back with more power and better MPGs. Unbeknownst to me, my mom started filling up her old Volvo S60 T5 with 87 and started complaining to me that her car feels weirder and slower, and that she's filling it up more frequently 10 days vs 14). And I simply asked her if she started to fill up with 87 to save money? And she was. And she didn't do it again after realizing that there's no realistic savings to be had.

Also, when I get my Jaguar loaners, Enterprise (who owns the loaners) fills up 87, as you may know. And my God...going from my XF into their newer XF with less mileage is jarring. And on the same driving cycles (my wife: to and from work) noticeable difference in driving range.

Yeah, I was reading a thread on VWVortex(still not used to this haha) last night about the regular or premium discrepancy with the GTI and VW explicitly states that the power figures they got were with premium gas. Looking at the computer of my car, I got a feeling the dealer filled it up with regular(though to be fair, premium is still hard to find thanks to the gas shortage) as the total range(miles I've already driven + the estimate) indicates that it's about 350 miles when it's supposed to be around 370.

Hopefully I'll be able to find premium this week and verify that this is the case.

Side note: 370 or even just 350 range is fucking amazing lol. The Miata's range was 270 on a good day so I'm literally getting 100 miles more with the GTI lol.

Even ignoring the engine math, I get gas discounts of about 10-15 cents per gallon by shopping at QFC (Kroger, etc) that makes my premium the same as regular.

I actually am a card-carrying member of this fine establishment called Costco so premium is much cheaper than your standard gas station(about 20-30 cents on average). But regular with Costco is also 30 cents cheaper than premium so it's a huuuuge difference when you're really penny pinching.
 
Nope, dunno who the owner is lol.

The moment I pulled into the lot, I saw the bright blue and knew I had to park there. By the time I got back though, the Si wasn't there. I actually wanted to find out why he chose the Si over other hot hatches since Honda is still being annoying af about these cars(plus it's the 2nd most expensive these days as you can find new FoST's well below the $25k msrp).

On the other hand though, Honda's persistence in needing a hard credit check to test drive the SI meant that they're really limiting their prospective buyers and that pretty much turned me away. The Si was well within my budget but I'm not dumb enough to take a hard credit check for a car that I don't even know that I like/want to buy. Now if it was a soft credit check then that would've been fine, but they explicitly told me it was a hard credit check so yeah... fuck that lol.

Oh, never mind about the parking on top of the car for trolling-purposes then.

I've never driven the Si or Type R, or even the new generation of Honda's, but personally I don't think you're missing out on much. I know styling is subjective, but I think this newest generation of Honda cars are ugly. The Si and Type R are the ugliest of the bunch, possibly some of the ugliest cars I've seen in the last 7 years.

Your VW GTI is way more stylish and classy looking. The interior is just lovely, I like the patterns in the seats. Reminds me of old school cars from 50-60 years ago.

Edit: I forgot how ugly so many electric and hybrid cars are, so the current generation Honda cars are not the ugliest when counting Prius, Leaf, i3 and other hybrids. Also, I'm trying to think whether I prefer the current generation Honda models more or the Nissan Juke more. They're both the ugliest modern cars I can think of right now.
 

Skel1ingt0n

I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Welp boys and girls, after a couple of months looking for a car, I think I found the one. I had been looking at the Cayman, Evora, 4C, M2, F-Type, old 911s.

Saw a 2017 M2 at Carmax with 6100 miles. Price wasn't great (classic Carmax) but since M2s are so hard to find at the moment I decided to go for it anyway. They also offered $2500 more on my trade than the dealership.

Haven't bought the car yet, so nothing is official, but I paid the transfer fee and it is on its way to Seattle. Feel free to talk me out of this one.

h7kypSG.jpg

Do it. That color is BMW's best, and assuming you're snagging it somewhere in the low 50s, I don't think you're gonna do any better waiting. Sexy ass car. Still haven't had a chance to drive one, yet, unfortunately.
 

Akim

Banned
I thought you guys would enjoy the response to my Yelp review from the dealership who wouldn't let me do a PPI on their Porsche:

"It's unwise and unprofessional to take a newer Porsche that is under full factory warranty to an independent mechanic and let him tore it apart. Sorry."
 
I thought you guys would enjoy the response to my Yelp review from the dealership who wouldn't let me do a PPI on their Porsche:

"It's unwise and unprofessional to take a newer Porsche that is under full factory warranty to an independent mechanic and let him tore it apart. Sorry."

Makes sense to me.

/sarcasm
 
Nope, dunno who the owner is lol.

The moment I pulled into the lot, I saw the bright blue and knew I had to park there. By the time I got back though, the Si wasn't there. I actually wanted to find out why he chose the Si over other hot hatches since Honda is still being annoying af about these cars(plus it's the 2nd most expensive these days as you can find new FoST's well below the $25k msrp).

On the other hand though, Honda's persistence in needing a hard credit check to test drive the SI meant that they're really limiting their prospective buyers and that pretty much turned me away. The Si was well within my budget but I'm not dumb enough to take a hard credit check for a car that I don't even know that I like/want to buy. Now if it was a soft credit check then that would've been fine, but they explicitly told me it was a hard credit check so yeah... fuck that lol.

Probably too many tire kickers these days...definitely lessens the amount of people that can buy em but there's no shortage of buyers either. Most don't sit on lots too long.

That said, I guess people like Hondas because they're Hondas. I mean I'd trust the turbo engine over a FoST personally if it was to be my daily.

Plus, for what it's worth, the Si is turning out to be a bit of a tuners treasure. LSD, active dampers and all the other tech for 24k MSRP is not bad.

But hey maybe I'm biased because I have a 9th gen ;). Gotta love that K24.
 
Was having fun on the way to work today until a blue M4, just like the one Akim posted, just flew by me... not even a minute later a Ferrari California does the same.

Fuuuuuuu.

On the other hand, I've figured out the shifter and clutch.

I'm not sure if it's rev hang or just the longer gears, but it takes at least a second for the rpm to drop(about 500) to the right rpm. It's not a bad thing but I'm definitely not used to it coz on the Miata, it drops super duper quick.

Probably too many tire kickers these days...definitely lessens the amount of people that can buy em but there's no shortage of buyers either. Most don't sit on lots too long.

That said, I guess people like Hondas because they're Hondas. I mean I'd trust the turbo engine over a FoST personally if it was to be my daily.

Plus, for what it's worth, the Si is turning out to be a bit of a tuners treasure. LSD, active dampers and all the other tech for 24k MSRP is not bad.

But hey maybe I'm biased because I have a 9th gen ;). Gotta love that K24.

Actually, with the dealer where my contact works, they're not selling the Si's like hot cakes. Since it came out in May, they've only sold 4 out of the 10 they got, that's 1 car per month, and from what he's saying, they're not the only ones who're having trouble selling it.

He can't say for sure if the credit check is the barrier but he does know that a lot of the interested buyers seem to flake out eventually.

Anecdotally, I think he's correct. That's really the 1st Si I've seen outside of a Honda dealer meanwhile, I've already seen a couple of Type R's.

That said, I do agree that the new Si's seem to be a good value if it's exactly what you want. I'm looking forward to see what the tuners can do with it.
 

matmanx1

Member
I thought you guys would enjoy the response to my Yelp review from the dealership who wouldn't let me do a PPI on their Porsche:

"It's unwise and unprofessional to take a newer Porsche that is under full factory warranty to an independent mechanic and let him tore it apart. Sorry."

Ridiculous response is ridiculous. If they were so concerned about the quality of the mechanic then they could have shared that with you and asked that you take it to a certified Porsche mechanic for the PPI (which you were most likely planning on doing anyway). It just sounds shady and like they had something to hide.

Was having fun on the way to work today until a blue M4, just like the one Akim posted, just flew by me... not even a minute later a Ferrari California does the same.

Fuuuuuuu.

On the other hand, I've figured out the shifter and clutch.

I'm not sure if it's rev hang or just the longer gears, but it takes at least a second for the rpm to drop(about 500) to the right rpm. It's not a bad thing but I'm definitely not used to it coz on the Miata, it drops super duper quick.



Actually, with the dealer where my contact works, they're not selling the Si's like hot cakes. Since it came out in May, they've only sold 4 out of the 10 they got, that's 1 car per month, and from what he's saying, they're not the only ones who're having trouble selling it.

He can't say for sure if the credit check is the barrier but he does know that a lot of the interested buyers seem to flake out eventually.

Anecdotally, I think he's correct. That's really the 1st Si I've seen outside of a Honda dealer meanwhile, I've already seen a couple of Type R's.

That said, I do agree that the new Si's seem to be a good value if it's exactly what you want. I'm looking forward to see what the tuners can do with it.

I think its partially that there is more competition in this space and it might also be the Civic Sport. It's 180hp and looks extremely similar to the Si. It starts at $21,300 and is "plenty" of car for most people while still looking a little bit tough.
 

J-Rzez

Member
Grats and good luck with the GTI Jong.

Akim, same with the M2. I was close to buying that same color but just in manual.

Its either mustang week or its the official city car of myrtle beach, as there are a ton of them here. Seriously, like hundreds. Ill be avoiding car shows, don't feel like getting ran down.

And finally, well thought out plan to make people lose ~7pts on their credit score just to test drive a civic.
 
Actually, with the dealer where my contact works, they're not selling the Si's like hot cakes. Since it came out in May, they've only sold 4 out of the 10 they got, that's 1 car per month, and from what he's saying, they're not the only ones who're having trouble selling it.

He can't say for sure if the credit check is the barrier but he does know that a lot of the interested buyers seem to flake out eventually.

Anecdotally, I think he's correct. That's really the 1st Si I've seen outside of a Honda dealer meanwhile, I've already seen a couple of Type R's.

That said, I do agree that the new Si's seem to be a good value if it's exactly what you want. I'm looking forward to see what the tuners can do with it.

Huh, interesting.

Like matmanx1 said, it could be because it's pancaked between other options. There's the Civic Sport which is available with the same engine, smaller turbo, no active dampers, and no LSD.

Then there's the Type-R above. So the Si is in an interesting place.

Early tuner results have been pretty impressive: http://blog.vittuned.com/the-10th-gen-civic-si-basemaps/ 30-40 whp and 40-45 wtq just from a tune, looks like the only weak point is the clutch, like the GTI.

It'll be interesting to see where the dust settles on all this. Seems like there's 20 different Civics this year.
 

Bandit1

Member
This thread needs 10 CCs of classic truck, stat.

Here's a '55-'56 Chevy Cameo I ran into today. Beautiful but the fire's really blunting the great paint color in these pics. Unbelievably rare stuff.


Really shocking to see one of these. Whoever restored this did a wonderful job.

Wow, nice find! Truck looks very, very nice. I spend most of my time around vehicles that are in the 70s or older and I think I may have only ever seen two of these in my life.

On the other end of the classic truck spectrum, (not so rare and not so nice) I ended up with this a few days ago:

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A 77 Chevy wrecker that was actually given to me. One of my dad's friends had acquired it in part of a trade deal, kept it for several months and then decided he really didn't need it and it was taking up space in his shop. Runs and drives and has a darn good wrecker bed on it. It's a fixer upper, but I'm going to use it for awhile and then sell or trade it off to fund some other projects. I was told the truck originally had a 454, unfortunately a previous owner thought it would be a good idea to put a straight 6 in it... (eyeroll emoji)
Might have to at least put a small block in it if I use it very much...
 

Akim

Banned
I need you guys to tell me if this is creepy or not. I googled the VIN of the car I'm planning to buy and found the dude that originally sold it to the dealership who is active in a BMW forum. How weird would it be to message him and ask him about the car?
 
I need you guys to tell me if this is creepy or not. I googled the VIN of the car I'm planning to buy and found the dude that originally sold it to the dealership who is active in a BMW forum. How weird would it be to message him and ask him about the car?

I would do it. He's already sold it to Carmax, hopefully you will get an honest opinion.

(tbh, I would also look up his post history... an M2 is a fair amount of money.)
 
I need you guys to tell me if this is creepy or not. I googled the VIN of the car I'm planning to buy and found the dude that originally sold it to the dealership who is active in a BMW forum. How weird would it be to message him and ask him about the car?

I've actually had someone e-mail me before when buying a car from a dealership. They somehow got a hold of my e-mail from the dealership and decided to ask me. I was upfront about the car. I don't think anything it's too weird. At worst, you don't get a response. At best, you get an honest opinion.
 

TrojanAg

Member
So I've been meaning to ask this for some time because I have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm trying to sell my car off for a bunch of different reasons. I have a '99 Pontiac Firebird with 89,000 miles on it that has been kept in very good shape. I'm wondering what I should keep in mind when selling and most importantly, where can I sell this thing?
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Watch a McLaren 720S vs. Huracan. Enjoy the lolz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgGruUBPbes

I need you guys to tell me if this is creepy or not. I googled the VIN of the car I'm planning to buy and found the dude that originally sold it to the dealership who is active in a BMW forum. How weird would it be to message him and ask him about the car?

Not creepy at all. The owner of my XKR was a 55 year old British pilot who runs a flight school in Orlando.
 

ameratsu

Member
2 pics...




That's my brother's Mazdaspeed3 and it's demented smile behind it lol.

Unfortunately, it started sprinkling when I was out there so I had to haul ass and put it back in my garage. I'll take some more tomorrow though, and hopefully a better spot, not curbside to my house lol.

Anyway, I was gonna quote y'all but I realized it's a lot so I'll just say thanks for the love y'all!



Haha, it feels weird not to have the Miata especially since I've got a scale model of it on my desk... gotta find a Mk7 GTI now to replace it too lol.



Yeah the shifter in this is really good. Obviously it's not bolt-action like the S2000 or my Miata, but it has a really satisfying click when it gets in gear and that clutch is really light. Contrast that to the Focus ST(that I test drove too after the GTI yesterday) which not only had a really vague clutch, the shifter was stupidly vague as well.



I'm not gonna lie, I think I could've lived a little bit more longer(the end of the year at least) with the Miata and I was willing to do that if I wasn't gonna get the deal I wanted for the GTI, but yeah I was just ready for something different.


Congrats dude! Looks great :D
 
Grats and good luck with the GTI Jong.

And finally, well thought out plan to make people lose ~7pts on their credit score just to test drive a civic.

Thanks!

Yeah, I lost 14 points on my credit score since I did 2 hard credit checks to get my GTI. One was a loan app through my bank and the other was when I applied for financing at the dealer... though supposedly since this all happened within a span of days, it shouldn't be that bad? Idk I'm not too well versed on how to credit scores work lol.

Huh, interesting.

Like matmanx1 said, it could be because it's pancaked between other options. There's the Civic Sport which is available with the same engine, smaller turbo, no active dampers, and no LSD.

Then there's the Type-R above. So the Si is in an interesting place.

Early tuner results have been pretty impressive: http://blog.vittuned.com/the-10th-gen-civic-si-basemaps/ 30-40 whp and 40-45 wtq just from a tune, looks like the only weak point is the clutch, like the GTI.

It'll be interesting to see where the dust settles on all this. Seems like there's 20 different Civics this year.

Yuuup. Idk if this'll work correctly, but here's an Autotrader search of the Civic Si's smack dab in the middle of the Dallas Fort Worth metroplex, with a radius of 25 miles:

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for...t=HONDA&searchRadius=25&trimCodeList=CIVIC|Si

If it won't work, hit up AT and put in the 75261 zip code.

Within 25 miles there's 61 new Si's sitting here. In comparison, that's about 10 more new FoST's(50) and about 5+ more than FoRS'(54) and for curiosities sake, there are 91 GTI's here and only 7 out of the 91 are stick lol.

Obviously you can only extrapolate so much from this kind of data, but I don't think it's bad to assume that the new Si just isn't selling well(considering that it's only been out for 5 months at most), and the more Honda does to prevent buyers from getting their hands on it, the more it's going to suffer.

Either way, whether it's the competition, the looks of the car, or whatever else, it's kinda weird to see that the Si doesn't seem to be the runaway success many were predicting. A few months ago the idea was that the Si was the poor man's Type R, but the way it's looking right now, it seems like it's totally been ignored aside from the die hard Honda fans.

Anyway, yeah the performance turbo FWD segment is actually quite interesting these days. Ignoring the stalwarts like the GTI and FoST, everyone and their moms seem to be interested in taking a piece of the pie... but they're also not willing to compete on the higher end. Somebody on here or some show I watch mentioned that it seems like we're entering the 2nd golden age of performance FWD and I couldn't agree more.

Jongkookie congrats on the bold step into miatalessness.

Man it feels weird to not have a Miata especially on excellent weather days.

It feels amazing today thanks to a cold front but my GTI doesn't have a sunroof to enjoy the fresh air. On the other hand, I did discover that all my windows are automatic, I thought they'd be manual coz you know base model and all that lol.

Congrats dude! Looks great :D

Thanks!
 

v1lla21

Member
It feels amazing today thanks to a cold front but my GTI doesn't have a sunroof to enjoy the fresh air. On the other hand, I did discover that all my windows are automatic, I thought they'd be manual coz you know base model and all that lol.
Lol when I got mine and I saw that I was like yo this is dope. Then I saw it had heated mirrors and I didn't even know that was a thing.
 
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