It won't work on PCs at the start anyway.
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Battlefield 4 - Xbox One Impressions + Bonus XB1 Controller Impressions & Vid
- Thread starter Miles Quaritch
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It won't work on PCs at the start anyway.
Problem with the the XB1 controller seems that they improved a lot of minor things people won't notice much, while at the same time slightly diminishing the aspects of the controller you will notice constantly given how integral they are such as the triggers. All that of course leads to negative impressions.
massivekettle
Member
Do people actually have proof/statement from EA/Respawn that the title will be coming to PS4?
I mean, it could very well end up being a 2-3 year timed exclusive like Mass Effect, in which case - who cares? Titanfall 2 will likely be out by then.
Im sure its fine. .. need to get one for my pc.
The 1 year exclusive thing was leaked via Game Informer. Respawn haven't been shy about the fact that it's not off the cards for the PS4 either.
EDIT: Apparently Cboat mentioned the 1 year exclusivity too, but I can't find a link.
Unlikely, Mass Effect was exclusive for so long because it was published by MS.
Miles Quaritch
Member
One year exclusivity according to CBOAT.
so about the whole bumper-trigger thing...
how do people hold their controllers? i use my index finger for both R1/R2 on a dualshock and bumper/trigger on xbox. my friend uses index fingers only for L1/R1 and bumpers, and constantly keeps his middle fingers on L2/R2 and the triggers. I only use this method when the game requires you to press both bumper and trigger at the same time for some reason. I would have thought his method is much more common but with the whole confusion of hitting the should buttons accidentally maybe i'm wrong.
how do people hold their controllers? i use my index finger for both R1/R2 on a dualshock and bumper/trigger on xbox. my friend uses index fingers only for L1/R1 and bumpers, and constantly keeps his middle fingers on L2/R2 and the triggers. I only use this method when the game requires you to press both bumper and trigger at the same time for some reason. I would have thought his method is much more common but with the whole confusion of hitting the should buttons accidentally maybe i'm wrong.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
Xbox - Rest on LB and RB
PS3 - Rest in space between L1 L2 and R1 R2
Xbone - Rest on LB and RB
PS4 - Rest in space between L1 L2 and R1 R2
If anything we should be skeptical, at least of this guy's x1 controller review. All I've been hearing for the longest is how it's THE perfect controller.
I can believe the part about BF4 though lol oh Microsoft.......
Red Chocobo
Banned
People are expecting too much from next-gen.
I can see lots of angry Amazon reviews from joe-public "hardly any difference from the last console!".
I can see lots of angry Amazon reviews from joe-public "hardly any difference from the last console!".
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
Ah, the memories...For those who haven't seen it...
Lolll, that is some next gen latency
.Yep. The Titanfall guys at Eurogamer were saying "they want to bring it to as many platforms as physically possible by the end of 2014."
Played it at eurogamer and felt like a dream. Didnt have any of the issues hes talking about. Also bumper isnt totally connected to the trigger, I agree though that it is a very stupid shape. The controller in general definitely didnt feel any small infact im sure it is exactly the same and I have quite large hands.
Lolll, that is some next gen latency
gif is slowed down which exaggerates the latency but yeah heavenly sword is probably one of the worst offenders in this area.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Half baked Battlefield game? No way!
XANDER CAGE
Member
When I played the XBO version at PAX, it looked pretty good but was running at 30ish FPS. Glad to hear this guy's build is 60fps, at least, even with all these problems.
Mass Effect
Member
I'm hoping the controller will be good. There have been a few complaints in the past few months, but maybe they aren't a big deal. I really want one for my PC.
Mass Effect was published by Microsoft. Titanfall isn't. And as it's been mentioned before, it's supposedly exclusive for one year.
Bet you "many platforms" doesn't include the Wii U.
Mass Effect was published by Microsoft. Titanfall isn't. And as it's been mentioned before, it's supposedly exclusive for one year.
Bet you "many platforms" doesn't include the Wii U.
Gif of the video.
he has the real controller off camera. its all fake..
nah i dont know.. lol
Chobel
Member
There was no XBO version in PAX, it was PC version which makes it odd that BF4 run 30ish fps.
You must have missed that PS4 thread. None of the problems described above.
XANDER CAGE
Member
Err, it was running on an XBO devkit. I guess that's technically a PC version, but it was at the XBO booth with an XBO controller on an XBO kit.
oflaherty01
Member
Gif of the video.
I've had that happen on the xbox 360. It was all due to the latency in the tv. I think we should take this with a grain of salt, many in the media and even normal people have gotten a chance to play around with the controller and this is the first I have ever heard of noticeable input lag. He noted other issues in the build, so it could have been a fault in the build. I highly doubt that DICE would release a game with that much input lag. I have questions about the integrity of op as an unbiased reporter, but he does have evidence for this point.
I don't see how he could give an honest impression of the sensitivity of the joysticks. I also can't see the reason op should be able to give in game feeling impressions, as it seemed that something was really wrong with entire set up he was using.
Dat DDR3 latency advantage gone.Gif of the video.
Killzone 2 is a close second/ shared #1. The devs of Killzone however have masked the latency under 'that heavy feel'. So many people still beleive that Killzones 2's latency is a design choice.
As for the OP, stuff like that decreases my excitement for next gen in general
BruiserBear
Banned
I'm beginning to feel like where there is smoke, there is fire, and in the case of the XB1 controller there have been quite a few people who have had "meh" responses to using it for the first time. The most common complaint seems to surround it's shoulder buttons and triggers, which clearly have received quite an overhaul.
It's the input lag from the TV people. Please, stop with this nonsense.
Gif of the video.
It's the input lag from the TV people. Please, stop with this nonsense.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Tried it myself, I think it's the best controller out of the two new systems which is a massive compliment considering how great I think the DS4 is
ethomaz
Banned
MS showed Battlefield 4 running on Xbone (devkit, test kit, reatil, etc) the first time at Eurogamer... before they are using PC with a Xbone controller.
Yeah, obviously TV lag. No way a 60fps game that has a controller hooked up via wi-fi direct would have lag like that otherwise.
Sithlord77
Banned
I have motionflow set to ON when I play console games on my TV as I like them smooth especially if they are 30fps originally. I rarely notice the difference in input lag if motion is set to OFF or ON tbh, as its so tiny and unoticeable, all I know is it makes games look like 60fps and its a huge plus IMO. Input lag for me is absolutely nowhere near as bad as this video/gif. People must have rubbish tvs if input lag can really be that bad even with motionflow/ non game mode etc wtf? What kinda TV would introduce horrendous lag like in this video? I just don't understand.
That must be either one shit TV or the game isn't finished although its a bit strange a game this close to launch would even have input lag like that. That shouldn't even exist at all or even in early in development as there's no reason it would.
That must be either one shit TV or the game isn't finished although its a bit strange a game this close to launch would even have input lag like that. That shouldn't even exist at all or even in early in development as there's no reason it would.
velociraptor
Junior Member
lol wut
Motionflow introduces a shit ton of input lag. This is a matter of fact. Anything which causes additional processing will introduce input lag.
What TV do you have? I can do some digging to find out what kind of figures your TV has.
Sithlord77
Banned
SHADES
Member
Really?
I've been hearing more glowing reviews about the DS4 than the new Xbone controller--whose complaints primarily lie in the crappy bumpers, the extremely light weight, and the triggers being dampened with no click.
soulassssns
Banned
These opinions will have zero affect on my console purchase.
velociraptor
Junior Member
33ms in game mode according to HDTVTest.
With Motionflow enabled, input lag is going to be double or triple that. Frankly, anything above 40ms is unplayable IMO.
fake edit:
116ms with Motionflow Smooth. Welp.
I really don't know how it doesn't bother you. I'm very sensitive to input lag. Some console games are nigh unplayable thanks to their atrocious lag. My Samsung has 40 ms of input lag in game mode but even then it bothers me when playing COD online.
Impeccable
Member
Are you fucking kidding me with all these Juniors lately? Jesus.
Sad to hear about the whole thing can't wait to hear NeoGAF's impression of all this stuff after launch... not long now!
Sad to hear about the whole thing can't wait to hear NeoGAF's impression of all this stuff after launch... not long now!
ethomaz
Banned
I have a Samsumg PLASMA D8000... in Game Mode (low input lag) it is fine but without Game Mode it is close to unplayable (of course I'm overeating but it is bad)... that's the input of the TV... I can't even describe if the controller have a big input lag too.
Same and I love the 360 pad. Weird "preview"
Dev-kits ARE actual hardware... they just come with the ability to debug. Using a retail copy meant getting blu-rays pressed whereas with a dev-kit they can skip that entirely and either burn a copy, or load a built onto the dev-kit itself.
This is true. A demo build is forked out of the main build. But you expect it to be stable though otherwise it gives off a bad impression (which this does)
infinityBCRT
Member
Gif of the video.
The year they were demonstrating Halo CE Anniversary (2011?), literally EVERY game at Fan Expo had brutal lag because they were using TV's with the 120hz motion smoothing crap turned on. So I'd take this gif with a grain of salt.
Also, I played Forza 5 at this year's Fan Expo and it was VERY responsive. I really doubt that there's something inherent in the console that would cause this.
Oh, and finally, the description of the controller just makes it sound like a hit piece. When I tried it, I thought it felt incredible and felt every one of the hundreds of millions of dollars they apparently spent on developing it in all the refinements. It definitely felt more responsive in terms of point of articulation on the accelerator and turning radius than the 360 controller was with previous Forza games.