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Buying a 4K TV for PS4K thread!
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I ended up getting a UN65KS8000 through Leons. The sales guy told me that they will be going on sale for black friday for $2799 (I know canadian TV prices are crazy) and that I will be able to price match. They have 0% financing as well.
Crimson_Gold
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Based_legend24
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Based_legend24
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I posted this in the general Pro thread but maybe this was the better thread to ask the below -
Has anybody got experience playing the Pro on a 4K PC monitor? I'm currently playing my gaming consoles on my monitors due to the kids ruling the lounge room most of the time.
I was eye balling the Asus MX27UQ monitor and haven't really been able to find any feedback on using it together with the Pro.
Is anybody using this monitor with the Pro? Is it worth using this type of display when you can't get HDR as well?
What would happen if you ran in 1080P mode on this type of monitor? Is that an option if you wanted to choose higher effects versus resolution?
Has anybody got experience playing the Pro on a 4K PC monitor? I'm currently playing my gaming consoles on my monitors due to the kids ruling the lounge room most of the time.
I was eye balling the Asus MX27UQ monitor and haven't really been able to find any feedback on using it together with the Pro.
Is anybody using this monitor with the Pro? Is it worth using this type of display when you can't get HDR as well?
What would happen if you ran in 1080P mode on this type of monitor? Is that an option if you wanted to choose higher effects versus resolution?
DreadfulOmen
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Im not sure how prices are in Canada, if you could list some tvs in your price range, i will do my best to help. As far as the ku6300, the PQ is really good for the price, and the contrast is not bad for a led tv.
DreadfulOmen
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I agree. We have replaced a lot of tvs in our home in the past, the only tv we still have is the Panasonic plasma since the color accuracy, black levels, viewing angle, and contrast are so good. Lots of lcd/led tvs with ips panels just dont cut it for us.
DreadfulOmen
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If i were you i would see if you can find an amazon warehouse deal. My friend got a 55 inch ku6300 with 2 year warranty for $400. The ku6300 has lower input lag compared to pretty much every tv in its price range. Blu-ray and 4k bluray looks really good, it doesn't have wcg, so hdr content wont look as good as a ks8000. I do not have any experience with this particular sony tv, but i've had the chance to play on a lot of 4k tvs, and the ks8000 and ku6300 were the best as far as input lag.
DreadfulOmen
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The passive 3d on this set is so freakin good. I watched a ocean documentary a few days ago and the jelly fish were seriously a good 6-7 feet out of the tv floating in the room. Zero crosstalk too.
ZERATUL PL
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this seems like a steal... no?
DreadfulOmen
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What is the price you can get it for? Do you enjoy 3d movies? Do you usually have people over watching tv too?
Depends on what your goal is. Ultimate HDR and 4K viewing or gaming? The B6 is the superior tv but you will be paying more no? Bigger sizes are best for 4K, but it is your call here.
On a related note, just curious why a lot of people are purchasing curved sets. Not the C6 posted above which has 3d and as it is OLED does not suffer from any change in curve in terms of backlighting, but I saw so many purchasing curved versions of the KS8000 aka KS8500. What is the reasoning? All things being equal, I have never seen a curved set best the flat version. Eithee they are equal or worse but almost always never better.
Chronos24
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1399 with 11% off additionally. Yes 3d. Game a lot. View off angle often. Mainly fam watching.
DreadfulOmen
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I think some people just like the aesthetics, but im not sure. One of my friends picked up a c6 over the b6 for the 3d capabilities. He would of gotten the b6 if it had 3d.
So, I'm thinking about picking up a 60" or 65" KS8000 but Ive got one major question before I do:
For an investment like this, I really want it to last. I want high quality HDR, I want low input lag for games, I want this to be a really, really good TV with no obvious techinical shortcomings. With that in mind is the KS8000 "there" in terms of technology, or should I wait one more cycle (i.e. Next year) for the tech to improve just a bit more?
For an investment like this, I really want it to last. I want high quality HDR, I want low input lag for games, I want this to be a really, really good TV with no obvious techinical shortcomings. With that in mind is the KS8000 "there" in terms of technology, or should I wait one more cycle (i.e. Next year) for the tech to improve just a bit more?
FalsettoVibe
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I had the same question about a week ago. I chose the B6. Got it yesterday. Beautiful set!
Input lag has not been an issue so far.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1309571&highlight=
Tallshortman
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So is there a notable difference between 60 and 120 Hz for gaming? Decided between either a ku6300 or maybe steping up to a ks8000.
Also considering the Sony X850D but the lack of HDR10 bothers me.
Also considering the Sony X850D but the lack of HDR10 bothers me.
DreadfulOmen
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Yea not bad dude. You will really enjoy the 3d on this tv. Actually all of the lg sets that have 3d have been really impressive. I personally think the 3d I've seen on lg tvs is better than the 3d in the movie theaters.
Im not too sure about the input lag, since i have not played any games on this tv.
At 4K, no. At 1080p, yes 120hz native refresh is better than 60 hz. But I would say input lag of the set matters most. But if youare gaming at 4k, it is 60hz output. Even people with 4k/30hz sets, just due to the sheer increase in pixels and visual fidelity do not see any real difference with blur.
Also, X850D is HDR10 but does not have the required over 1000 nits for the 2% sustained window to give you the full spec. It is HDR10 and you will still be amazed when you see HDR footage.
That is exactly what I think is happening. Clever marketing has caused a lot to purchase curved thinking it is better. Aesthetics wise, curved sets also appear thicker and have issues with mounting.
Hey guys I need a little bit of advice since I just bought the pro. I'm currently looking at this deal from Samsung on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DUTL4OI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Yes, It's 40" and super cheap, but I am not looking for something super-high end; this is strictly a budget buy (I have a small room as well, can't fit big tvs anyway) so I know, and very well aware, that I'm this tv isn't the most top-end.
But I've never really seen TV in 4K, and I am overall very ignorant when it comes to tv, so it would be great for some advice, thanks!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DUTL4OI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Yes, It's 40" and super cheap, but I am not looking for something super-high end; this is strictly a budget buy (I have a small room as well, can't fit big tvs anyway) so I know, and very well aware, that I'm this tv isn't the most top-end.
But I've never really seen TV in 4K, and I am overall very ignorant when it comes to tv, so it would be great for some advice, thanks!
Are you saying you're paying the $2799, or you're able to price match to somewhere else ? What/where are you price matching to ?
That's the best budget 4K gaming TV you can buy from a reputable brand. I'm using last years model as a PC monitor and am very happy with it. Go for it, you won't be disappointed.
If you want a 4K TV which has 10-bit colour and HDR then go for the Sony XBR43X800D.
God bless you!
If anyone needs an HDMI 2x1 switch this one appears to support HDR based on the reviews. Since it is a powered switch it should not effect input lag at all.
http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=15261&seq=1&format=2
$20, I just ordered one, will update once I have it to confirm if it works. Plan on having XB1S and PS4 share one HDR 4K input and then have my PC on the other for my H8C.
My only other alternative would be to get a new Surround receiver, but I don't want to give up the wireless rears I have with my Sony set up and it would be a hell of a lot more expensive than $20.
http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=15261&seq=1&format=2
$20, I just ordered one, will update once I have it to confirm if it works. Plan on having XB1S and PS4 share one HDR 4K input and then have my PC on the other for my H8C.
My only other alternative would be to get a new Surround receiver, but I don't want to give up the wireless rears I have with my Sony set up and it would be a hell of a lot more expensive than $20.
Rain City Gamer
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I just pulled the trigger on a 65" Samsung KS8000 Through Newegg ($1379)
I know I took a chance this close to Black Friday but I can't imagine it will get much lower than that. (Also this price includes Tax and Shipping)
Can't wait to hook my PS4 Pro up to this bad boy!
I know I took a chance this close to Black Friday but I can't imagine it will get much lower than that. (Also this price includes Tax and Shipping)
Can't wait to hook my PS4 Pro up to this bad boy!
Nerd_Incognito
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What games are you playing on the B6? For me the input lag would be most noticeable in FPSes.
Cool! Thank you so much!
Hmm, how did you find it for that price. The Newegg site is listing 1499 for me.
LightofRohan
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Gah, you guys are convincing me to get the KS8000. AHHH! THE THIRST IS REAL.
Technology is stressful, it rarely seems like a good time to buy in, cause you know as soon as you do -- it will be obsolete by something else.
From everything I've seen though the KS8000 seems like a safe buy, I think I'm going to do it. In for 65" baby!
Technology is stressful, it rarely seems like a good time to buy in, cause you know as soon as you do -- it will be obsolete by something else.
From everything I've seen though the KS8000 seems like a safe buy, I think I'm going to do it. In for 65" baby!
TVs are actually usually a bit better than other stuff, if you buy a good set it should last you 5-10 years much better than a laptop or something else would.
HDR is nice, but honestly if you bought a nice 4k set a couple years ago it's not like you haaaave to upgrade. In another couple years they will be HDR12, or even some other new fangled display tech to tempt people to upgrade, but you'd still be golden with a 2014 higher end 4K set.
TV depreciation is insane though, and they are a pain in the ass to sell because it's not really feasible to ship them, and the bigger sets people need a fucking truck to pick them up.
But yeah KS8000 you should be golden with for a long while.
DreadfulOmen
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I watch more movies than gaming, and initially i wanted to wait for dynamic metadata, because i think it will be a huge benefit for movies, but i couldnt wait and ordered a 55 ks8000 for my room.
So are you buying one?
Yeah the included cable will work.
Generally speaking an HDMI cable is an HDMI cable. All of the cables I have are not specifically "HDMI 2.0" cables, except for the one that came with my XB1S I guess, but random ones all support 4k 60hz, 444 with my PC.
HDMI cables do start to get old though and then they start to get wonky. Have had a couple that start to do weird horizontal scan line type stuff over the years.
HamsterPackage
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https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01CHZXLG0/
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01GWSGVS8/
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01C6XHQR8/
These are some that I could find In my price range on Amazon.ca thank you for the help.
Truezeldafan
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I have literally the exact same question. Thoughts anyone? Honestly I'm thinking the Samsung might be worth it. But at 6" less I'm hesitant.
DreadfulOmen
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Out of those 3, 6290 without a doubt. You'll get low input lag for gaming, nice picture quality for movies in 1080p and 4k, and good colors. It will accept a hdr signal, but wont have hdr as good as more expensive tvs.
The hicense 55 inch, is the input lag that bad? A review on best buy says that when gaming at 4k the input lag is 65ms. I assume this would be an issue playing on the pro?
A PS4 Pro with the Sony 700d would cost me $880 after ps4 trade in, while the hicense and pro would cost me $750 (would trade in ps4 at gamestop, they offer 150 vs best buys 120).
A PS4 Pro with the Sony 700d would cost me $880 after ps4 trade in, while the hicense and pro would cost me $750 (would trade in ps4 at gamestop, they offer 150 vs best buys 120).
DreadfulOmen
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That's a tough one. It's hard to go back to a smaller screen size. I mean if you had a 50" going to a 47", that would be ok, but a 55" down to 49" would be harder to deal with. I say you check it out in person and see if the PQ is worth it or not.
DreadfulOmen
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It depends on how sensitive you are to input lag. What tv are you currently using?
Look up your current model on displaylag, and see what your current input lag is.
Im using a 42in insignia 1080p 120hz tv that I bought in early 2010. Not sure what model.
I may not be very sensitive to input lag but I haven't noticed it. Rtings input lag #s
1080p @ 60Hz Show Help : 32.1 ms
1080p With Interpolation Show Help : 48.8 ms
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode Show Help : 48.8 ms
1080p @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 Show Help : 32.1 ms
4k @ 60Hz Show Help : 51.0 ms
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 Show Help : 51.0 ms
4k @ 60Hz + HDR Show Help : 53.5 ms
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 + HDR Show Help : 53.5 ms
DreadfulOmen
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Look in your tv menu, or on the back of the tv. It might list your model number. Then see if you can find it on displaylag.com.