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Controllers |OT| It's the Hall-Effect Life!

After using the Vader 5 Pro a bit.......I'm keeping it. Found some grips that are not as thick as control freak and they do not rub so that solves my only issue. The software is very good. Love that I can map any button to a keyboard key. Mapped one of the extra shoulder buttons to F12 for easy screenshots. Not even my Razer Wolverine can do that. Paying extra for the charger making it a bit more expensive than leadjoy. But still......this is a premium controller for about$100 even with the charger. Have to say, I prefer this over Steam controller by quite a lot.
That's good to hear, especially about the mapping. I got sick of seeing companies brag about their software having powerful mapping then seeing nothing but controller remaps with no complexity at all. Vader 5 Pro having 8 extra buttons makes kb maps a perfect match.
 
My Series X controller was working fine one day and the next developed the worst stick drift ive ever experienced. Fuck MS and all these companies today that are too cheap to use good quality materials for their controller. This is the 3rd controller that has crapped out on me in recent years. Switch 1 drift, ps5 battery, and SX drift.

I don't even use my Series X much so this really pisses me off that I have to spend $70-$80 just to use my system again.
 
After using the Vader 5 Pro a bit.......I'm keeping it. Found some grips that are not as thick as control freak and they do not rub so that solves my only issue. The software is very good. Love that I can map any button to a keyboard key. Mapped one of the extra shoulder buttons to F12 for easy screenshots. Not even my Razer Wolverine can do that. Paying extra for the charger making it a bit more expensive than leadjoy. But still......this is a premium controller for about$100 even with the charger. Have to say, I prefer this over Steam controller by quite a lot.

It's got pretty good linearity.

Does it use NearLink? Like Apex 5?

It should be written on the dongle.

How are trigger stop switches position?

I like them horizontal, instead of vertical - I aways did hit them if they were vertical and were sticking out. So I'm curious.

Btw GadgetHyper has V2 https://gadgethyper.com/products/flydigi-vader-5-pro-wireless-controller

Plus they test sticks before shipping, if one wants.

Edit: found a seller in my country which offers V2 from the get-go.

I'm tempted to try it out, and return it if something will be off.

But honestly I could just wait a bit for 8BitDo Ultimate 3e and 3.
 
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My Series X controller was working fine one day and the next developed the worst stick drift ive ever experienced. Fuck MS and all these companies today that are too cheap to use good quality materials for their controller. This is the 3rd controller that has crapped out on me in recent years. Switch 1 drift, ps5 battery, and SX drift.

I don't even use my Series X much so this really pisses me off that I have to spend $70-$80 just to use my system again.
There are lots of officially licensed 3rd party Xbox controllers in a variety of prices with a variety of features, all with hall effect or TMR sticks. If you're open to it people could throw a few suggestions your way. You might be surprised by what you can get for the same money as an official controller with outdated sticks.
 
That's good to hear, especially about the mapping. I got sick of seeing companies brag about their software having powerful mapping then seeing nothing but controller remaps with no complexity at all. Vader 5 Pro having 8 extra buttons makes kb maps a perfect match.

Yeah....I was stoked when I realized it. Only thing is the software has to be running on the computer, but not a big deal to me.


It's got pretty good linearity.

Does it use NearLink? Like Apex 5?

It should be written on the dongle.

How are trigger stop switches position?

I like them horizontal, instead of vertical - I aways did hit them if they were vertical and were sticking out. So I'm curious.

Btw GadgetHyper has V2 https://gadgethyper.com/products/flydigi-vader-5-pro-wireless-controller

Plus they test sticks before shipping, if one wants.

Edit: found a seller in my country which offers V2 from the get-go.

I'm tempted to try it out, and return it if something will be off.

But honestly I could just wait a bit for 8BitDo Ultimate 3e and 3.

I don't see NearLink on the dongle. What is that?

Trigger stops are vertical. Hasn't been a problem for me.

I checked the serial number against that Amazon review and it is a higher number so pretty sure it is V2. Manufacture date is 03/26. They said 04/26 is for sure and 03/26 is 50/50.

Also, isn't the clicky thumbstick tightening mechanism have a tactile clicking feel only on V2? Mine has that as well.
 
Im in the same boat. On the other hand ist the Vader 6 most likely not too far away, so why even bother...usually the new Apex releases first and version 6 is alreay leaking
Probably because QC issues with FlyDigi I wouldn't really get Apex 6 day one, I've learned my lesson with Apex 5 to not buy their products day one.

I mean Apex 5 had the sameish issues as Vader 5 with back paddles and I don't see any info about V2 like with Vader 5, it also had issues with Alloy bearings I believe. It seems instead releasing V2 they went ahead and just made Apex 6, lmao. And from comments it seems like it's a few steps backwards, so it seems like they are cutting features out while at it too.

Yeah....I was stoked when I realized it. Only thing is the software has to be running on the computer, but not a big deal to me.



I don't see NearLink on the dongle. What is that?

Trigger stops are vertical. Hasn't been a problem for me.

I checked the serial number against that Amazon review and it is a higher number so pretty sure it is V2. Manufacture date is 03/26. They said 04/26 is for sure and 03/26 is 50/50.

Also, isn't the clicky thumbstick tightening mechanism have a tactile clicking feel only on V2? Mine has that as well.
NearLink is type of connection - it's listed on the first page of OT. Generally think about it as a faster and lower latency 2.4Ghz connection.

Nice to hear even if it's vertical it isn't a problem although people hands are different sizes and I tend to readjust my grip to compensate for my smaller hand size. So I would have to check that one for myself I guess either way.

Yeah, I think that clicky mechanism is V2.

But dunno, 8BitDo will have finally updated shell shape in a month and their Lavender one Ultimate 3 will have tension adjustable TMR sticks with similar ease of adjustability as Vader 5.

I play MP FPS games from time to time and I was worried their sophisticated Hall Effect sticks would break during sweat MP gameplay, I mean with Apex 4 people advised to remap L3 and R3 to back buttons instead - I saw a few FlyDigi sticks just literally snap from just pressing L3 and R3 back in the Apex 4 days - dunno if there was improvement in that regard with Apex 5 and Vader 5.

I believe they used translucent plastics in their stock modules back in the Apex 4 and Vader 4 gen, which is more brittle. And I honestly wouldn't want to babysit as an expensive controller as Apex 5/6 anyways if that hasn't improved.

Vader 5 Pro is not that expensive so I probably wouldn't be as worried about it as I would with Apex 5. But still, it would probably just linger in the back of my mind to babysit it a little - and I have a lot of other controllers I don't need to even do that.

I think I'm gonna wait a bit till 8BitDo drops their newest controllers and for more info, which sticks sticks they will use, gamepadla data (linearity especially, and latency on sticks and buttons) and if their improved ergonomics will be worth it - then I will decide since I now have more symmetrical controllers than asymmetrical ones lmao, so I wanted to buy at least another one asymmetrical controller this year.
 
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Probably because QC issues with FlyDigi I wouldn't really get Apex 6 day one, I've learned my lesson with Apex 5 to not buy their products day one.

I mean Apex 5 had the sameish issues as Vader 5 with back paddles and I don't see any info about V2 like with Vader 5, it also had issues with Alloy bearings I believe. It seems instead releasing V2 they went ahead and just made Apex 6, lmao. And from comments it seems like it's a few steps backwards, so it seems like they are cutting features out while at it too.


NearLink is type of connection - it's listed on the first page of OT. Generally think about it as a faster and lower latency 2.4Ghz connection.

Nice to hear even if it's vertical it isn't a problem although people hands are different sizes and I tend to readjust my grip to compensate for my smaller hand size. So I would have to check that one for myself I guess either way.

Yeah, I think that clicky mechanism is V2.

But dunno, 8BitDo will have finally updated shell shape in a month and their Lavender one Ultimate 3 will have tension adjustable TMR sticks with similar mechanism as Vader 5.

I play MP FPS games from time to time and I was worried their sophisticated Hall Effect sticks would break during sweat MP gameplay, I mean with Apex 4 people advised to remap L3 and R3 to back buttons instead - I saw a few FlyDigi sticks just literally snap from just pressing L3 and R3 back in the Apex 4 days - dunno if thats improvement.

I use back buttons for L3/R3 and left and right bumpers so...pretty heavily. Hopefully if there are any defects then I'll find them early
 
I use back buttons for L3/R3 and left and right bumpers so...pretty heavily. Hopefully if there are any defects then I'll find them early
So you did start to babysit it a little - but yeah better be safe than sorry.

Hopefully it will last but at least you know about it's quirks.

I honestly have so much controllers I will just wait and see what 8BitDo will do, since they started to hit all checkboxes I want

Horizontal switches for trigger stops, updated shape. Hopefully they will use JS13s at least for TMR sticks, if not JS19 which are supposed to be even more improved.

I liked the materials on Ultimate 3-mode back in the day, so hopefully with it being Xbox licensed this time too and a more premium price tag it will be like it this time too, but they cut costs on sticks then, hopefully they won't now. Anything below quality of TMR GuliKit/HallPi modules in GuliKit TT Max would be a bummer since those are pretty good too. A bit worse than JS13s but not by much - linearity is top notch too.
 
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