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Draugoth
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Resident Evil Zero and Code Veronica Remakes Reportedly in the Works at Capcom - IGN
Following the enormous success of the Resident Evil 2, 3, and 4 remakes, Capcom has turned its attention to remakes of Resident Evil Zero and Code Veronica.
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SegaSnatcher
Member
I'm a huge fan of Code Veronica, so consider me hyped, but sadly in modern day and age with whiney people offended by everything they will likely change a pretty huge angle in the storyline. Oh well.
killatopak
Member
Alfred Ashford is gonna be an interesting case here.
Mister Wolf
Member
Doubt he will still be a crossdresser.
Arachnid
Member
Both CV and 0 are the worst RE games of the fixed camera perspective games. If you say CV should be remade because it was shit and needs an improvement, that also applies to 0.
Personally, I'm hyped to see Billy and GOAT Rebecca again. Getting a 0 remake before the 1 remake is a great idea.
Personally, I'm hyped to see Billy and GOAT Rebecca again. Getting a 0 remake before the 1 remake is a great idea.
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Portugeezer
Gold Member
Same in PS2. I wonder if it holds up, part of me thinks no.
Xaeroxcore666
Member
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Yep, and Claire wouldn't go to look for Chris get caught and call Chris for help....
SkylineRKR
Member
CV had bad gameplay. And while it was visually impressive in 2000, the gameplay was actually a huge step back compared to 3. And there was an obscene amount of backtracking too. The pacing of this game was off.
RE0 was just bad. Everything past the train was rather horrible and the tag mechanic sucked since you had to babysit and heal the other. Solo boss fights were easier.
PS3 in my opinion. The one on PS4 is the PS2 classic which I would avoid. I thought the PS3 remaster was fairly good.
RE0 was just bad. Everything past the train was rather horrible and the tag mechanic sucked since you had to babysit and heal the other. Solo boss fights were easier.
PS3 in my opinion. The one on PS4 is the PS2 classic which I would avoid. I thought the PS3 remaster was fairly good.
Roni
Gold Member
I'm one of the weird ones that loved 3 and Zero, 3 already got fucked and now Zero is being outsourced as well? C'mon now...
I get that the big Chris arc is 1, CV & 5. But Wesker appears in Zero too...
That used to be a thing in all games. I'd go as far as say it should be a thing in Survival Horror.
I get that the big Chris arc is 1, CV & 5. But Wesker appears in Zero too...
That used to be a thing in all games. I'd go as far as say it should be a thing in Survival Horror.
Arachnid
Member
Separate Ways was pretty fantastic, at least. We'll see if that was just from this team super benefiting from the main teams work on 4 or not though.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
To be fair Peter Fabiano(RE7)(RE8) handle the RE3 Remake and left shortly after the release of RE8 to work for Bungie where he can actually make a first person shooter.
I hear he wasn't too big on the Remakes overshadowing his RE series direction.
Plus we need more Claire
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Xaeroxcore666
Member
I love CV and i love DC, but that´s true...Gameplay wise CV felt still too similar to the 1st and 2nd RE, and that is because CV development started even months before RE 3(Aug ´98 i think?), so it was totally made under 32 bit logic, and the tank controls felt very dated at the moment of launch...The only evolution was on graphics (by 2000 the Claire model, with real time face expressions felt overwhelming at the time....or the zombies more detailed than ever and actually moving its mouth) and the real time 3d enviroments, they looked impressive at the time, but they used the same fixed camera angles of ps1 games,just adding a little bit of scrolling, so basically it felt like most part of entire DC catalogue and the first gen of PS2 games, a 32 bit game wrapped on "next gen graphics" (something very similar to what is happening with nowadays PS5 and Xbox Series S/X games). That´s why even by RE CV 2001 felt dated compared with the PS2 heavy hitters of that year and even compared with some DC late 2001 releases like Headhunter and Shenmue 2. So, the case was even worst if you went from PS1/64 directly to PS2 or GCN on mid 2000s, without living DC lifespan and PS2 early years...CV felt totally primitive compared with lotta games specially RE 4....Despite in reality CV had already the tech to offer a more modern experience, but was used under the 90s logic, so we got a great game for 99/2000 standards, which was quickly dated.
Doom85
Member
I mean, yeah, he technically appears, but just to watch the heroes through some monitors with his good old pal William Birkin, debating on who will pay for pizza tonight, and then he fucks off being all, “later buddy, hope you totally don’t get backstabbed later on!” and doesn’t appear for the rest of 0.
So, you know, not the most memorable Wesker appearance……
Matt_Fox
Member
Seems unlikely from a business perspective, these were two of the lowest selling RE titles.
Code Veronica 3 million copies, Zero 5.5 million (by comparison RE4 and RE5 both over 20 million).
I think these remakes would come with considerably more financial risk for Capcom than the remakes of 2,3, and 4 did (and 5 would seem a much safer bet on yielding a big return). But maybe they're so confident in anything RE selling at the moment that they're prepared to go for it?
Code Veronica 3 million copies, Zero 5.5 million (by comparison RE4 and RE5 both over 20 million).
I think these remakes would come with considerably more financial risk for Capcom than the remakes of 2,3, and 4 did (and 5 would seem a much safer bet on yielding a big return). But maybe they're so confident in anything RE selling at the moment that they're prepared to go for it?
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
A little disingenuous
Zero was locked on the GCN for 20 years
RE4 & 5 got multiple ports over that time frame.
If anything that 3 Million & 5.5 million suggest it will sell to a bigger crowd if Remade
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ShirAhava
Plays with kids toys, in the adult gaming world
This game was so bad and so broken it really pissed me off
I powered through RE 1-3 wasn't the biggest fan but it was early 3D days so I gave a lot a pass
Veronica is when I started to legit hate RE (Other than 6)
Nothing needs a remake more than this game
I powered through RE 1-3 wasn't the biggest fan but it was early 3D days so I gave a lot a pass
Veronica is when I started to legit hate RE (Other than 6)
Nothing needs a remake more than this game
SEGAvangelist
Member
Best Resident Evil since it was a Dreamcast exclusive.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
There will be very little left of the original in this day and age.
But considering this is one of the worst RE ever, it’s all up to Capcom to miss the chance to make a better game. If the anime cringe, the horrible VA and the disasterrific global design of the old CV are wiped out like they should for a game aimed at the current western audience, it would require some colossal effort to make something worse than the original.
FWIW, I first played CVX on PS2 around 2001 or 2002, and I hated it from my first playthrough. The changes made to the DC version somehow managed to make the game even worse. I guess playing it on DC in 1999 must have been mindblowing, but once you got past them graphicz, the game is flawed to its core.
But considering this is one of the worst RE ever, it’s all up to Capcom to miss the chance to make a better game. If the anime cringe, the horrible VA and the disasterrific global design of the old CV are wiped out like they should for a game aimed at the current western audience, it would require some colossal effort to make something worse than the original.
FWIW, I first played CVX on PS2 around 2001 or 2002, and I hated it from my first playthrough. The changes made to the DC version somehow managed to make the game even worse. I guess playing it on DC in 1999 must have been mindblowing, but once you got past them graphicz, the game is flawed to its core.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
I find it way hard to believe they'd waste so much time and money on two remakes of arguably the two blackest sheep of the franchise.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
As long as they stay away from Dino Crisis, I’m good.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Chiggs
Gold Member
I disagree completely. The backtracking does indeed suck, but 3 is a mess...the bullshit dodge system, the choices that mean nothing, the crappy bosses. I feel like I could go on and on.
Badlucktroll
Member
They’ll do a good remake and fix alot of problems and present it as a sequel/prequel to re2/4 remakes
Gambit2483
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fart town usa
Gold Member
C:VX is top 3 classic-style RE all day. This is not open for discussion.
The PS2 version on PS4/PS5 is the best. Visuals look great. On PS+ Classics you can stream the PS3 remaster that uses MT Framework for lighting but the modern PS2 version still looks better, even compared to a disc-based copy of C:VX on PS3. I played through each version the other year.
C:VX is dope. Yes it has some unfair spots that gatekeep players and the story serves as the origins of RE completely jumping the shark in a bad way, but when it comes to the classic-style elements that people love with the OG trilogy, C:VX delivers in spades. People talk about backtracking like it's a bad thing and not an intentional and intrinsic design choice. Backtracking is an absolute requirement for a survival horror, you're supposed to become familiar with the layout of the place you're trapped in. I effing love the way good backtracking makes me think; planning routes, remembering which enemies are still around, it also usually results in some kind of effective jump scare that you weren't expecting at all because you're focused on the puzzle/path in front of you. The change in layout for Alfred's Island and Antarctica are so damn good, turns backtracking on it's head and forces you to find new routes and then backtrack through those. It's some of the best backtracking in the genre. The game is also filled to the brim with puzzles and inventory management. I effing love C:VX. Top 3 classic-RE for me but not for the faint of heart, you have to be a master at RE1-3 to be able to properly appreciate C:VX. Beating C:VX is a gaming achievement you can be absolutely proud of.
Zero is no joke either, it's the most difficult RE IMO, especially if you play as Rebecca whenever possible. I hope the remake ditches Billy and the leaches and just tells Bravo Teams story. That would be GOAT-tier RE storytelling. Give me a VR mode too, holy shit that would be amazing to experience.
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near
Gold Member
Kamiya is cooking he’s own thoughts since he is legally not allowed to work in the industry for a year, followings he’s departure from Platinum. So maybe we’ll hear what he has decided to do for work towards the end of this year.Yeah leave that to whatever Mikami and Kamiya are cookin
Gambit2483
Member
Hopefully he can pull a Kojima.
near
Gold Member
“Oh Capgods, please lend me your RE Engine” - Hideki Kamiya
Killer8
Member
Remaking Zero but not the original game feels like they are leaving content (and money) on the table. I know that REmake already exists (and is still the best damn remake of all time), but that game is itself around 22 years old now and doesn't gel with the over the shoulder perspective which the rest of the remakes have been using. Maybe they are reserving it for the 30th anniversary.
Odd how he mentions they did Seperate Ways and just neglects to mention they did the RE3 remake
Odd how he mentions they did Seperate Ways and just neglects to mention they did the RE3 remake
which was a great game that i'll defend to the grave.
Draugoth
Gold Member
Yes, they are a smaller team, so this game will also disappoint
that is the bad but the good they will make steve cool and not a whiny shit.
killatopak
Member
Big stuff like announcements,yes. He does miss on details though. I remember him saying a lot of stuff about RE3R that didn't end up being true. Like proper replacement for the live selection, huge sprawling city, asking if jill will say the iconic line to Nemesis at the final battle etc.
Astray
Member
Now we get into the actually risky part of Capcom's strategy.. When they run out of the unequivocally good stuff (RE1-4) and have to turn into the most mixed period of RE's history.
It's gonna be the most interesting remake of them all for me.
It's very.. hit and miss, has some of the best ideas and puzzles of the series, but also has some seriously bad and annoying things about it too.
It's gonna be the most interesting remake of them all for me.
Alfred needs a change imo, the voice acting really undermined how creepy he is in the og game.
keepthemeyesopen
Member
It's the minorities and exaggerators that think it's trash. I'm with you though, I enjoyed as a kid and still do to this day despite is cheesy, cringe worthy moments.
2-3-4 are done we need to complete that little quadrilogy. whats with the avoidance of switching it to the modern new engine :-( it's not like its not going to sell
Astral Dog
Member
people really need to get over that Capcom could remake(god forbid pay attention to) their not so favorite games, both CV and RE Zero could get great reimaginings if done well like RE2.on the other hand when they took over RE3 it wasn't perfect so fanboys complained.
CVX has potential great settings,characters,soundtrack and atmosphere to make a good survival horror, they would need to redesign the levels but its good news they are willing to do so
RE Zero came out at a time when the fans were tired of the old formula and it was more of the same .biggest sin was coming out after the acclaimed Remake it has flaws,but its still a solid survival horror game on its own i realized when i replayed the lovely remaster, after the likes of RE6 itl thought "damn, Zero was pretty good after all" people complain about the partner system but its just changing the green boxes for whatever room you pick and higher difficulty (but still better than Sheva AI in RE5
)They did a great job with Alfred on the Darkside Chronicles imo he's a psycho
As for why they focus so much on Remakes, if they do end up making these,i think Capcom figured out completing the Remake lineup is less risky than say continuing the Revelations line, , updating their old games, the new first person titles , mixing old school design or modern action elements, so far it worked very well for them and keeps the fans happy, if they want multiple RE games, but a new Revelations would require the same attention as a mainline game,(or else it will get mixed reviews), with Remakes at least they have a template to work on without needing to start from nothing(figuring out new mechanics, plot,characters,setting ,level design,music etc.)
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Astray
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I'm not against remaking CV, I actually think that remaking that one is a far more interesting idea than most remakes.people really need to get over that Capcom could remake(god forbid pay attention to) their not so favorite games, both CV and RE Zero could get great reimaginings if done well like RE2.on the other hand when they took over RE3 it wasn't perfect so fanboys complained.
CVX has potential great settings,characters,soundtrack and atmosphere to make a good survival horror, they would need to redesign the levels but its good news they are willing to do so
RE Zero came out at a time when the fans were tired of the old formula and it was more of the same .biggest sin was coming out after the acclaimed Remake it has flaws,but its still a solid survival horror game on its own i realized when i replayed the lovely remaster, after the likes of RE6 itl thought "damn, Zero was pretty good after all" people complain about the partner system but its just changing the green boxes for whatever room you pick and higher difficulty (but still better than Sheva AI in RE5
They did a great job with Alfred on the Darkside Chronicles imo he's a psycho
As for why they focus so much on Remakes, if they do end up making these,i think Capcom figured out completing the Remake lineup is less risky than say continuing the Revelations line, , updating their old games, the new first person titles , mixing old school design or modern action elements, so far it worked very well for them and keeps the fans happy, if they want multiple RE games, but a new Revelations would require the same attention as a mainline game,(or else it will get mixed reviews), with Remakes at least they have a template to work on without needing to start from nothing(figuring out new mechanics, plot,characters,setting ,level design,music etc.)
Agree with you on most of the rest.
justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
Man, I want them to maintain the same tone just for meltdowns. But if they cut the robotic arm scene, we riot!
cinnamonandgravy
Member
do em all
then do a killer 7 sequel.
then do a killer 7 sequel.