Thomasorus
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This. Remember Satou et Ruu in AC with their shitty low tier chars beating people with universal mechanics. <3
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Fighting Games Weekly | Dec 29 - Jan 4 | 2015: An Esports Odyssey
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This. Remember Satou et Ruu in AC with their shitty low tier chars beating people with universal mechanics. <3
Thanks. Yeah already thought it was something along those lines. Will try Blazblue one more time then and get CP if I get into it, else try Persona. Definitely looking to get into Xrd when it hits Europe, especially if I have a PS4 by that time.
atomic moth
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The newest iteration of Dead or Alive comes out in February. Unless you're absolutely against 3-d fighters, it has very easily understandable controls and mechanics and is fun at its highest levels. It also has boobs.
Karsticles
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I don't think combo breakers are good mechanics in general, because they tend to favor a particular kind of character. I am never keen on mechanics that happen without any reactive visual cue. If there were some kind of reactive visualization to play mind games with on both sides, it could be interesting as a game mechanic. Otherwise it is just guessing on both sides - no better than a TAC.
Xrd is region-free, right? You could always import.
Data East returns, with Fighter's History 3D!
People react to GG Blue Burst (the combo breaker burst) all the time. Once you can do your combos in your sleep, all your doing is looking for the burst.
Blue Burst is 18F startup. If you can block Millia 6K, you can jumpcancel/romancancel your combo and block/throw/recombo a burst.
Blue Burst is 18F startup. If you can block Millia 6K, you can jumpcancel/romancancel your combo and block/throw/recombo a burst.
Lostconfused
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The Gundam Build Fighters game we all deserve "Gundam Extreme vs. Breaker Try"
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
For me personally it's a bit of both. After a while you sort of just know people's burst habits and/or the points where people want to or tend to burst. With that in mind, it's a lot easier to react to it because you are actively looking for it.95% of people cant block that shit
And isn't what you're talking about more of a read than a reaction to the blue burst startup?
Run a netplay tournament of Chou Climax Heroes, tag groove only, through emulators :V
SloaneRisette
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When's Pokken
Enzo snubbing it, not enough Pokemon Company money coming his way I guess
Enzo snubbing it, not enough Pokemon Company money coming his way I guess
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
He's ok, has a bit of trouble opening people up. Treat his specials like normals
He does big boy damage95% of people cant block that shit
And isn't what you're talking about more of a read than a reaction to the blue burst startup?
Millia can do a lot of things besides 6K, which is what makes 6K hard to react to.
But once you hit someone, it's 99% single player from then on. If something happens that you didn't do, then it can only be a burst and you react accordingly. Character familiarity plays a large part in to your ability to reaction punish bursts. Ex: FAB.
For the rest of us, just randomly RC your combo, or intentionally drop it.
They seemed to of err on the strong side of things, when they made the console chars. I wouldn't be surprised if nerfs came as they get introduced to arcade.
Every time Sin hits me I sorta sigh a little and salute the half of my lifebar I lost.He's ok, has a bit of trouble opening people up. Treat his specials like normals
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Is the sigh from wondering why the fuck you got hit by something of his in the first place?
That's how I feel when I get anti aired by his overhead slam LOL
You don't even have to react to Blue Burst with experience (and it's generally not even expected for one to react to it). After playing good players after awhile, you'll recognize the key points in areas players want to Burst in your BNB combo. That's where the meta begins. Certain mind-states produce different types of reactions to Burst-able combos.
Just hit somebody with a retarded mixup one right after the other and you sense frustration? Expect a Burst after two hits. Baiting those are extra satisfying. Make the second hit of your combo something less than 18 frames (like 5P, or j. P) while holding back.
Just landed a hit. Where on the screen are we? How much meter do I have? What round is it? What does my opponent know about my character? What's his current mind state?
These are meta-analyses engaged by the conception of Burst and are hardly relatable to something as stupid as TACs.
Just hit somebody with a retarded mixup one right after the other and you sense frustration? Expect a Burst after two hits. Baiting those are extra satisfying. Make the second hit of your combo something less than 18 frames (like 5P, or j. P) while holding back.
Just landed a hit. Where on the screen are we? How much meter do I have? What round is it? What does my opponent know about my character? What's his current mind state?
These are meta-analyses engaged by the conception of Burst and are hardly relatable to something as stupid as TACs.
QisTopTier
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I found it kind of funny they took away Sol's super basic combo paths and gave him Ragna style combos.
Man, you GG vets scare the shit out of me :3
I think reducing blockstun so as to allow more chances of interrupts could probably make offense less relentlesss. That would probably change the structure of existing combos and hinder accessibility, so maybe you add an input buffer... and you're back to square one.
You can reduce block stun quite a bit. Tap back
But honestly one of the major things to learn in GG is when to FD and what moves you can just defend easy for counters.
On top of that Blitz shield fucks over a lot of really telegraphed attacks that are not being covered by something else.
True. I've yet to utilize the game's defensive options fully, so I'm not complaining just yet
QisTopTier
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You can reduce block stun quite a bit. Tap back
But honestly one of the major things to learn in GG is when to FD and what moves you can just defend easy for counters.
On top of that Blitz shield fucks over a lot of really telegraphed attacks that are not being covered by something else.
For instance, if you are fighting a ky throwing out stun dippers like crazy you can block the first hit *if he did it sorta close* and just blitz shield the second and go to town on his ass
I don't miss sidewinder really. Sure his midscreen damage was more insane because of it, and it made wild throw more scary due to the damage potential, but I much prefer the more traditional combos now. Too much pressure not to drop it in tournament, and I dropped a lot in tournament which forfeits knockdown and puts Sol in a pretty bad position.
Professor Beef
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I was a Lucario/DK main for like, 2 weeks. Then I discovered Villager.
Damn, that's too bad =/
I'm looking for a ps4/ps3 stick, since I'll buy a ps4 in the near future, are there any others?
Brawl continued to sell through 2014 and has to date sold 12 million copies. Say what you want about how the mechanics of Brawl makes it a worse game, but focusing on making sure casual play can be had is not the wrong move.
Hardcore games are inheritly niche by definition, which is why I understand why companies, especially large companies who are targeting large demographics in order to make back its budget and profit from the game.
I wished Smash 4 did some things differently, namely more offensive options and limited air dodge, but its still a fantastic game in its own right and can be a competitive fighter if allowed to.
Now let me turn off stage hazards Samurai. <-<
Thank you for this.
Had a ft10 exhibition in the dead game called UMvC3 against one of the Hawaii players here the other day, was pretty amusingly hype despite both of us being rusty after not playing it for months.
In a couple days, taking vacation back home to Vegas for a few weeks so I'll probably check out the scenes for Ultra SF4, Smash, and GGXrd while I'm around.
All this GG talk makes me sad Xrd isn't on PC :/ At this point I don't even necessarily care about fighting other players online, I'm just interesting in going full training mode on a GG game and learning the mechanics and messing around with different characters. X2 #reload and Isuka are available on steam. No point, I'm guessing?
Yeah, it's a part of net culture at this point really. It's also the reason why a lot of things get blown way out of proportion when a simple acknowledgement of the other side's points would be more than enough to move things along.
Karst said it a while back; people are more interested in protecting their own perspectives.
I'm guilty of it too. So now I mostly play
non-fighting
If you want mechanics and messing around, it's good enough for those purposes, at least reload.
RIP Dahbomb
Have no fear, I am confident that Xrd will come to PC.
I just got my TE2, so I need to take it home and see if my PC recognizes it or if I have to download some drivers to make it work.
ayy lmao
Eh, it wasn't another melee vs. Brawl argument but more of a Nintendo did make the right decision trying to target a large demographic for this series. Now the choices to get there...
Tried to go ham like Infiltration, ended up Infailtration instead.
I do view the stream releases of GG as an OST release.
GG at Next Level
http://www.twitch.tv/nycfurby
http://www.twitch.tv/nycfurby
Theres the MadCatz stick though I'm not sure when it comes out.
The Kuro's are manageable....Just not that good. They don't get stuck though, but depending on how unlucky you are with the condition your buttons come in, one or more of them may begin to have a very slight wedged in feel to them. Sorta like if a small piece of food got in between the button and the rim. The squeaking is also up to how unlucky you are with the condition of your buttons.
Pretty much, the Kuro's main problem is you're essentially going to the lottery in terms of the condition of your buttons. You may get a set with no problems whatsoever, or you may get a set with the two problems I mentioned above. You could be like me and just replace all the buttons with Gamerfingers, which ends you up with a gdlk stick.
Single handedly the reason why character design discussions tend to be not fun around these parts. Remember, if I don't like a thing that means it's pandering to something else.
I think that's what I'm planning to do. Buy the HRAP 4 and use buttons from my old stick.