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Former Naughty Dog employee says he was sexually harassed by a lead in late 2015
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How many other Sony employees get $20,000 in hush money though? The guys at the top have to have some knowledge on where that money was coming from!
FlaygletheBagel
Banned
Can't believe it. I really hope some big outlets pick this story up. Sony deserves to take some serious heat over this shit.
Act how? Who was in charge of wws, soe, and naughty dog during the time?
psynergylover
Member
what a shitty thing to do Sony, y'all deserve all the bad publicity heading your way.
Sounds like you know a bunch of desperate nerds and none of you get out of the basement long enough to learn about the human experience and, you know, how to empathize with perspectives beyond your own.
it sure beats most of the boycotts people do here such as boycotting Gearbox games or games with loot boxes.
As a guy who is rather normal with offers...yes?
I have standards and don't really want offers from random creeps, kindly screw off with that mentality.
I don't care if you personally are willing to do stuff with anyone, it doesn't suddenly invalidate others and them not wanting to.
Serenitynow
Member
OK, that is NOT how you handle a sexual assault allegation in your company. WTF was HR thinking? Huge lawsuit right there.
Edit: Harassment, sorry. There is a huge difference. However, the rest of my post stands.
Edit: Harassment, sorry. There is a huge difference. However, the rest of my post stands.
Nah there is no question that its a bad person.
New investigation, statement, commitment to staff education and procedures so it doesn't happen again? Just to name a few, first logical steps to take...
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Same here. It's a tricky thing, if that's the right way to word it. I mean we now know about Ben Affleck, are we all going to boycott his movies from now on? I wasn't a big fan of his stuff but that's besides the point. Let's say a scandal comes out from LG, should we all boycott LG and get rid of our TVs and other devices? This isn't the first one to come out and certainly won't be the last one. I'm guessing more will follow and from different companies too.
I can definitely understand that people feel very odd about Sony and ND now though. For sure I can. But this "screw ND I'm done with them." is maybe a bit too soon, for all we know only a few at ND are in the know.
Thank you. Dont get why i get attacked for it. Alot of people said they were gonna boycott Weinstein movies from now on. But that was fine.
Holy shit, I thought Naughty Dog was a progressive environment to work at, considering their games. This is horrible, here's hoping this guy can move on from this shit and land a much better job. I also hope he has had support from friends and family through this ordeal.
gaming_noob
Member
You trying to deflect attention away from this story. Come the fuck on.
Monkeyball
Banned
We need more justice in this world. Too much horrible behaviour gets ignored and unpunished.
We don't even know who said person is. I believe the story. But you have people trying to vilify an entire dev company for the actions of one person. That person and the HR company should get heat.
But you have way too many comments in this thread hoping Sony gets bad press. Rather than encouraging more people to speak up.
This is bigger than ND, it's bigger than Sony. Shit like this happens way too much. The more people that speak out and put a light on it and it hopefully encourages some change.
Ghost Slayer
Member
Did you even read the OP before you posted?
From what fucking story.
Not everything is console war bs like you seem to be implying it is.
I simply said if people are shocked it happened at ND just imagine how much it's happening around the industry. How in the fuck is that deflecting?
This is a very gross attitude to have. Just because a guy is straight it doesn't mean he wants to have sex with any and all women out there. Without a consent, a woman's sexual overture towards a guy is a harassment.
Also, it's fucked up that Sony HR tried to cover this up. This person must be high in chain at ND. As someone who once got screwed by HR, I always always try to tell people never to trust your life in their hands. Their interest is in the company and not the employee's well-being.
But he wasn't trying to deflect, all Boke was doing is pointing out that harassment is everywhere and companies need to handle it better.
Impossible to know, but id venture if they had to pay over a million in hush money, a. someone would have noticed and b. They probably would have fired the person peoe were complaining about
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Yeah a goddamn shame too. The reason he told people why he left ND shouldn't even be all that relevant to potential future employers. You'd think he would be working at another big developer now. Real shame.
sublimit
Banned
Yup.And as i said before i'm sure some top dog lawyers would love to take this case and probably completely free of charge.
This is how HR pretty much handles most shit in regards to complaints. They don't have your best interest as an employee.
He told interviewers that he left ND because he was tired of the crunch work. Guess that's a big red flag.
Regardless of whether or not theres two sides to this story, the ball is in Sony and Naughty Dogs courts. They need to respond.
I'm not saying that sexual harassment in the workplace shouldn't be addressed, but boycotting something that is created by hundreds or thousands of people is definitely not the way to change anything.
And it seems to when it comes to business or services, sexual harassment is low on the totem poles of things to address, or we wouldn't have people like Donald Trump as president or Harvey Weinstein still producing movies.
He wasn't deflecting. This shit happens in a lot of companies. Maybe every company.
Jonneh3003
Banned
This is not how we support victims and encourage them to speak up about assaults. I wouldn't doubt anyone's sexual harassment claims.
Do you not know how these words work, or are you a terrible person?
You can be supportive without claiming the know the claims are absolutely true. Most people that make these claims aren't lying, but an attitude like yours, if it became widespread, could change how easy it is to get away with a lie.
Industry is all about who you know and not what you know. I imagine a Lead at somewhere like Naughty Dog has connections out the ass. Said Lead may have gotten the accuser blacklisted. Speculation of course.
Dash_Riprock
Member
Milkshake Ducks.
Milkshake Ducks everywhere.
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Milkshake Ducks everywhere.
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Or it's more common than we think and even they know it.
Why on earth would people not talk up about Jimmy Saville or about Harvey Weinstein even though it occurred over decades?
STFU and listen to him. I love how he's "lying until proven true".
agreed this is happening everywhere major companies just get more press. It's good that people are speaking up. People pushing a different agenda are sick.
His big connections are with Naughty Dog. He mentioned that the atmosphere at work became toxic after the assault. Its likely that his performance and reputation were affected by his breakdown. Its easy to see why hed be blacklisted.
Yeah im all for that but thats likely head of Sony corporations. Outside of adding a personal hr rep to every studio all that wont prevent it from occurring again imo
Dictator93
Member
Mods asleep?
THere are some trash posts in this thread.
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I am sorry that the person had to go through any of this, and I hope once its veracity is verified, that those responsible for cover up and for the actions themselves, are held accountable.
THere are some trash posts in this thread.
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I am sorry that the person had to go through any of this, and I hope once its veracity is verified, that those responsible for cover up and for the actions themselves, are held accountable.
I've been on the recieving end more than once, in the same scenario you describe, and not once did I feel like I was lucky. If it even matters, they were attractive too.
What's wild is that at first I'm like...oooook, haha, funny, but let's stop this pls. Then later I felt like dog shit.
Sony offered money to give silence and they shouldn't get any bad press or heat from it? Come on now.
This is about morals and decency not fanboy wars.
funkystudent
Member
Asking for a reference from your former employer is a thing and... Welp.
When something like this happens, the last thing on your mind is anger/revenge/attention. A good part of the reason, I imagine, that a lot of allegations and people coming forward years after something has happened is because it took that long to cope with their situation (depression, being out of work, etc.).
And when you look at the shape of the fanbase for games these days, do you really think a majority of them would go to bat for a man claiming sexual harassment against a major beloved video game studio?
Thats not what he said at all :/
absolutely this.
the victim spoke in plain terms with nouns and verbs.
yes, it's sony/ND turn to speak up but shit has hit the fan and it's flung straight at them, they have to explain themselves and take actions.