drugstore_cowboy
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The option to tweak at at that level would be great, Forza 4 is one of those games where I can't stop fiddling with the display settings.
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The option to tweak at at that level would be great, Forza 4 is one of those games where I can't stop fiddling with the display settings.
They should completely change how their color grading and light temperarure system works.
The Kojima Production presentation about Fox Engine and lighting engine is a great showcase of what games that goes for realistic lighthning should be doing.
Everything starts from grayscale white balance and building a color-grading through proper light-temperarure values. Once you have that 3 groups of parametres properly foundated, everyrhing will look as it should.
ok I see the graphics and physics will be great but pleas t10 if you won't tell us about cars/tracks/// please tell us about features
how will the best laps be counted in regard to stats per car? what stats will there? can I have a best lap for every car I run in the game based on class? Can I compare that to my friends cars and times of similar class?
are you adding more depth to those parts? details?
how will the best laps be counted in regard to stats per car? what stats will there? can I have a best lap for every car I run in the game based on class? Can I compare that to my friends cars and times of similar class?
are you adding more depth to those parts? details?
So, there is new (proper ingame?) loading screen. Looks good. Also Dan is good driver, all right. The part where he drives in 3rd person side-view and still perfectly passing all these corners...
Customizable color grading would be a welcome feature in general but like with film and photography, developers have their own distinctive look and feel for their games. In Forza4's case, Turn10 seems to like this "bleach bypass" look a lot (as evident in their promo shots)... It's a neat, stylistic approach for sure (one that photo retouchers like myself would sometimes use on portrait shots... and film directors with war movies) but the desaturated look detracts the realistic qualities from the graphics.
With GT5, Kazunori went the opposite direction and developed a look that mimicked "the best and most aesthetically pleasing conditions" that would make great lighting/temperature for phototaking and it really shows in a lot of screenshots taken of that game.
i laughed at that too.
touche!
this is one of the things I am more interested in upgrading from f4.
Please listen Helios, and forward this to the t10 team member that does the leaderboards:
I wanna know if my mk5 GTI class C, is the fastest golf gti class C in tsukuba.
and in another leaderboard, in laguna seca.
I dont care if an american muscle car that used a rear spoiler just to drop to class C, smokes everything because it has 100kgs of torque in C class. or maybe i care, but for sure I dont want the leaderboards to show that car only.
I want to know how MY GOLF does in relation to ALL OTHER GOLFS.
the same about my class D mini cooper works, and the same for my S class ferrari, etc.
or, I want to know if I am the best lamborghini tuner/driver.
will turn 10 make it happen?
will the leaderboards be UPGRADED to hold more information about the cars we prefer?
I mean, Dan has said numerous times that this time, the entire career is played out differently, just so you can hang on to your favorite car.
will the leaderboards show the same love to our favorites?
i mean, will the cloud power (servers) be put to full use here? book-keeping is serious business in racing
thx
eso76
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So, goes back to looking like a track from classic ridge racer like it did in fm3 ?
Eek, don't listen to this man, T10!
(I'm afraid the only treatment amalfi is getting is the axe :/ )
drugstore_cowboy
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I'm not talking about boosting the saturation like F3's Nurburgring GP, I just want more unique colours in there.
probably AI driving
you had better be wrong.
eso76
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You're right, reality has colours, but Forza apparently still struggles with lighting and correct color grading, to the point it needs to be desaturated to look a little more realistic.
at this point i think its safe to say that the art director behind forza's look isnt going for photorealism. forza has that CG movie , photoshoped vibrant stylized look to it. something beyond reality and i dont think its an accident.
turn 10, i need this in fm5. even if its DLC. i will pay good money.
turn 10, i need this in fm5. even if its DLC. i will pay good money.
Thanks Helios. If I worked for Turn 10 I think I'd be mightily disappointed that Microsoft have licensed clutchless FFB wheels, meaning he clutch will only be used by gamepad players*. It seems like a massive step backwards from the previous gen.
*not including pressing a button on the steering wheel, which is downright silly.
SatansReverence
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Eh, msoft had Halo promotions and FM3 promotions at bathurst in the past. Really means nothing.
What? Never heard of a hand operated clutch before?
While FM5's Forzavista is the best looking thing i've seen, I've also resigned to the fact that photo-realism(on track) isn't their aim.
For me, GT5 (photomode/replay) can look real life in so many ways and more often too than FM4. Again, FM4 looks great but there's hardly any confusion between reality and virtual.
Anyway, there's talk of some open wheel footage tomorrow....
TeamVVV part 5 - controller and new physics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3nkbAuOzqY
Mentions aliasing issues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3nkbAuOzqY
Mentions aliasing issues
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Hate to take it OT but didn't GT5 have a commercial with the line we love cars. Japanese one iirc.
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Man, even if they're having issues with aliasing and stuff now I'm not really worrying. I'm still hyped. I remember telling SarBear in the other thread about seeing the SVT Cobra's getting recorded for sound. I want to get a glimpse at dat car list and see if my dear SVT Cobra is going to be in the game finally ;-;
Just think. Forzavista 1080p SVT Cobra, plus that glorious new Audio hopefully emphasizing that delicious Eaton supercharger whine... Droollll
Just think. Forzavista 1080p SVT Cobra, plus that glorious new Audio hopefully emphasizing that delicious Eaton supercharger whine... Droollll
Racing the track in Prague on "Forza 5" made me remember those great times I had in the "Project Gotham Racing" series. Visually, I enjoyed that game a great deal. That was a series I loved to pieces. I am a super Forza fan... but I, too, loved PGR.
Damn you to those monsters who crushed you.
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Damn you to those monsters who crushed you.
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drugstore_cowboy
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TeamVVV part 5 - controller and new physics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3nkbAuOzqY
Mentions aliasing issues
Can't possibly be worse than what we've been used to.
TeamVVV part 5 - controller and new physics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3nkbAuOzqY
Mentions aliasing issues
he mentions aliasing and flicker in menus, and that aliasing is less when in race.
maybe Alan can chip in when he sees this.
1080p does not provide for a completely jaggies-free visual environment.
personally I have noticed jaggies in places like the honeycomb rear grates and the parts where the door touches the frame, mainly inside the garage in closeups or the pre-race screen.
while racing, it seems to be clear enough. as clear as 1920x1080 should be anyway.
do we know what AA solution they will be using?
haha that would make Dan and the gang a whole lot less credible, as they have stated it is 1920x1080 numerous times.
i dont think so
and of course, if you can have the racing part of the game 1080p/60, i dont see one reason why you cant have a static room with a single car running at half the framerate with double the AA, and more.
eso76
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1080p without ANY AA at all has jaggies. i expect forza to have some decent form of AA.
Yeah I meant in the menus and stuff, which seems weird, it's got to be AA plus some weird form scaling issue.
NOOOO! dont say shit like that, or this generation is doomed from day 1!!
the difference is there, and its is more than double the pixel density.
0.9 megapixel to 2.1 megapixel is quite significant.
NOOOO! dont say shit like that, or this generation is doomed from day 1!!
the difference is there, and its is more than double the pixel density.
0.9 megapixel to 2.1 megapixel is quite significant.
I'm pretty sure you can't tell the difference either. 10 feet is a LOT.
I usually game either in a 27" pc monitor in my face, a 42" tv led ~2m, or a 60 plasma ~3.5m.
all occasions, big difference. even 1600x is noticeable to 1920x.
drugstore_cowboy
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100" at 5 feet here, fucking love the jaggys.
The more the merrier.
The more the merrier.
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drugstore_cowboy
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Forza 1 on it is disgusting, going back to F4 after an hour is like going 4K, literally cannot see aliasing (unless you go looking for it) for a good half hour.
Racing games like this are best experienced closer up, I think. More immersive and you can usually drive better.
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It's worth remembering that the Xbox One GPU supports three separate display planes, each of which can be in a different resolution, color space or precision.
drugstore_cowboy
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New rewards are up for F4 if anyone is interested.
what is this reward system? I never paid any attention before
do you have a link or something about this rewards system and what it does?
drugstore_cowboy
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It's a tab on the FM site.
You log in and depending on your tier you can claim in game money and unicorns for FH/FM4.
Claiming them doesn't affect next month's rewards but you might have missed out on the Mines R34 and a few million credits, this time I got the M3 GTR and another GT500.
You log in and depending on your tier you can claim in game money and unicorns for FH/FM4.
Claiming them doesn't affect next month's rewards but you might have missed out on the Mines R34 and a few million credits, this time I got the M3 GTR and another GT500.
Well, it is cutting edge.
well, fuck!! it says I'm driving since 2007!!! now that is offensive
should it also bring my forza 1 og xbox data,or is it 360 only?
it says tier 5, but I'm missing a little stuff from f3, f4 and fh. only forza 2 gives full marks.
still top of my f/l, but McKane, Diablohead and masscot are close. I'm like 4582pts gross.
is that good? what do I get?
p.s.
oh, you can drill down some stuff... haha nice..
from a first look, apparently, Russtic has put double(!) the time in horizon than me,
and a good 40(!) people on my current f/l got full marks for F4 days, mileage, level etc. 8)
so what do we win?
drugstore_cowboy
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well, fuck!! it says I'm driving since 2007!!! now that is offensive
should it also bring my forza 1 og xbox data,or is it 360 only?
it says tier 5, but I'm missing a little stuff from f3, f4 and fh. only forza 2 gives full marks.
still top of my f/l, but McKane, Diablohead and masscot are close. I'm like 4582pts gross.
is that good? what do I get?
p.s.
oh, you can drill down some stuff... haha nice..
from a first look, apparently, Russtic has put double(!) the time in horizon than me,
and a good 40(!) people on my current f/l got full marks for F4 days, mileage, level etc. 8)
so what do we win?
Think you are tier 5 by the score.
2m F4 credits
2m FH credits
M3 GTR
GT500
CRX (Horizon)
SL65 AMG Black (Horizon)
Hoping to see the 360 CS soon, it's the only unicorn I wanted.
ONLY 2+2 million credits??? what is this? Scrooge McDuck Reward System?
Come turn10, dont be a cheap son of a bitch!!
)players leaving the 360 with a top tier level should leave it as BILLIONAIRES, and buy & gift expensive cars worth 2 million each left and right!!
my combined f2/3/4/h garage/funds is in billions of credits, easily. I cant even put gas in them cars with this petty change you are rewarding us with 8)
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Forza Rewards doesn't even work for me.
Click on redeem and it just spins endlessly...
Click on redeem and it just spins endlessly...
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