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Forza Motorsport 6 Announced for Xbox One
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It's still more diversified than COD or AC
I'm not seeing that as much of a Game changer, 1080p@60fps is expensive for the X1. They should do weather, 3d crowds, day/night cycles, actually having some form of AA (Forza 5 had no AA). It would be better to keep 60 fps and drop resolution, it would still look better than Forza 5 by simply adding AA.
Edit: GT5 was @ 1280x1080 and looked really good.
As a fan, I agree with that. But I kinda doubt that is going to happen because of the massive bad press they will get for that. And that would be terrible
LukasTaves
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Forza 5 had MSAA2X, on top of 1080p and a locked 60fps... That's impressive on its own for a launch title. Yeah there were some downgrades compared to the E3 reveal, but there were also some improvements. I don't doubt that with more time they will be able to surpass the E3 demo and then some, at the same resolution/framerate.
(And going by the SDK docs, on Xbone, if you manage to hit MSAA 2X, upping it to 4X comes almost free if you use the esram properly, so perhaps they could even hit that)
Colonel Nasty
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Those headlights sure do imply night driving.
Shpeshal Nick
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I don't think you got the point of my post. I'm not arguing either way. I don't like racing games much and I definitely dont' like Sim racers, so Forza/GT aren't my thing.
While I'm well aware how different they are (I said so in my post), I was simply saying I can see where the milking argument comes from.
In the end, J6P just sees a "Forza" game every year. In the same way they see a "CoD" game every year. Now while each CoD game isn't vastly different from the last, they're still different, but they're also still CoD.
transformer
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Weather and day/night cycles would be fantastic. I'm hoping these are included. Also, forza 5 does indeed have post processing AA (at least according to my eyes and digital foundry). One thing is for sure, it is certainly much smoother and less jaggy that forza 3/4 and gt 5/6 which, I agree, look quite good.
Sure I see you point. The thing is that the only common thing between Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon is the "Forza" part in the name. Other than that it's two completely different franchises.
I don't think releasing a new game in a franchise every 2 years is considered milking it.
Surface of Me
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This is what I thought of.
They had headlights turned on in Forza 5
Elfforkusu
Member
I think Forza 4 and 5 did more to harm the brand than Horizon did. Took the franchise into Madden/Gran Turismo territory of iterative cash-ins.
Tidus_Great
Banned
they sure release these fast. I'm getting guitar hero vibes
JayhawkerStL
Banned
I wonder if they find the dozen or so Driveclub threads annoying?
Two years sure is fast in today's market!
Two years is abnormal to you?
... They've been releasing a new Forza game every 2 years exactly for the last 10 years. They haven't changed the schedule or the rythym of releases.
son of a Sven
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Because the cover car was revealed today
Got this vibe as well.
Grasping at straws? Sure. But I'd be surprised if there wasn't nighttime/weather.
SEGAvangelist
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Why not. E3 demo looked close to the reveal trailer. It's 2 years later, the Kinect reserve is available and the dev tools are way better. I expect it to look pretty damn good and run at 1080p 60fps.
Hugh Swank
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Agreed. It's a well known fact that the SDK for the X1 was pretty generic at launch, and Turn-10 still did a nice job with Forza-5. Playground Games did an amazing job with FH2, and clearly they did not have access to the latest SDK, being that it was released in December.
I would expect with further SDK improvements and implementation of D3D12, Forza-6 should be impressive.
Is this a comment born from ignorance, thinking that the 2 horizon entries are even similar racing games?
Or is it just an excuse to try to downplay something because it isn't on one's preferred platform?
It feels like when I hear people complain about Apple releasing a new ipad or iPhone every year, and say that is why they like Android (even though there is a new flagship android phone almost every month).
I think racing games are rare enough on the market that you don't need to worry about over saturation...
I just watched the E3 trailer again and outside of the IQ it doesn't look unreasonable. The reveal trailer shouldn't even be considered though.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Forza 4 (91 MC)
Forza 5 (79 MC)
Forza Horizon 1 (85 MC)
Forza Horizon 2 (86 MC)
are some of the best rated racing games and critically acclaimed.
Yea, I meant the initial reveal trailer.
R3TRODYCE
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FM5 has a 79mc rating?
Forza 4 (91 MC)
Forza 5 (79 MC)
Forza Horizon 1 (85 MC)
Forza Horizon 2 (86 MC)
are some of the best rated racing games and critically acclaimed.
I didn't know it dropped that low.
Tidus_Great
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if it was FF they have forza versus 13 teased for a decade then rename it.
Not that surprising considering the state the game came out. It's a much different game nowadays.
RespectThySole
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How did Forza 4 harm the brand when it's the best one? lol
GoldenCrow
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For this kind of driving game yeah, but FM6 is needed as FM5 was obviously rushed to hit that launch window so it should be the game people wanted from the series. What the team have done with FM is fantastic and it is the type of game if you properly get into you can play for years, the tracks are pretty much the same from game to game and the cars are pretty much the same as well so what's under the hood really makes the difference and a release date every two years doesn't really give enough time to make this meaningful and starts to feel like a FIFA or Maddden game.
The flaws for me started to become noticeable in FM4 and the series is now relegated to the wait until they fix them just like GT (PD they still haven't fixed the flaws) or buy them every few releases.
Black_Stride
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What was wrong with the micro transactions, as long as how much you earn in CRs is okay then whats the problem with micro transactions?
P.S Drivatars need to return with avengence.
That's the best one doe
RespectThySole
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Some later reviews really ragged on it for the microtransactions. I don't blame them they were awful.
Deviousx
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As long as Turn 10 keep it at locked 60FPS, then a slight resolution drop is fine with me. I don't think a resolution drop will receive that bad of a reception from people as long as the features like night racing and weather look good. Couple that with MSAA and/or decent post-AA and the image-quality should not take that bad of a hit.
But I am pretty sure Turn 10/MS will push for native 1080p @ 60FPS no matter what.
It was actually one of the highest rated launch titles on either PS4 or XB1 though. Surprisingly Battlefield 4 has an 81 mc rating.
GoldenCrow
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Indeed it is, though I put far more time into FM3.
It got shit on real hard for it's original stupid ass micro transaction design. However they basically fixed all of that and more but with MC original reviews are all that count.
To be fair Drivatars are super ymmv. I was watching a friend play a while back and one of the bastards just straight plowed into him. It was fucking insane we really thought it was a real person just trolling the shit out of him.
It'd be interesting to see them bring Forza 6 to PC. Especially with Project Cars still not out yet. If they announced that at the Windows X event which is... what... next week? Next month? It'd be hilarious for a competition sake.
Though, I'd personally want them to bring Horizon 2/3 to PC over Motorsport.
Fatehehhhh
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By the looks of it, I'd say that Microsoft finally pulled their dev support for the 360.
I think PC should just get it's own Forza Motorsport titles, separate from the console releases. Forza Universe or something with more customizability than you can offer on a console (mods, track customization, etc.) There is clearly demand for racing sims on PC with high production values.
Then again, I think Polyphony should do the same thing. It would be cool to see.
KnightHart
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I can see them doing Motorsport and Horizon for XBOne only, and then another different title for PC. Maybe not a Forza game, but another new racing game
Don't forget Turn10 is a big studio, like Ubisoft big, them releasing a new driving game where is main template is basicly the same seems fine to me. What annoys me is that some forget that in relation to Polyphony, there is no way they can produce games as fast when they're like half the size.
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