mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I'm hoping there's ONLY a PS5 digital. But that they release a disc add-on for us physical media people for an extra $50. That way the PS5 Pro can be $600. Because $700 just isn't gonna work.
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Hideki Yasuda (JP Analyst) - The Sony Group may see PS5 as a failure and the envisioned goals are unattainable.
I'm hoping there's ONLY a PS5 digital. But that they release a disc add-on for us physical media people for an extra $50. That way the PS5 Pro can be $600. Because $700 just isn't gonna work.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Kokoloko85
Member
I think its only recently they are back to supporting studio. Bluepoint had more engeneers and artists on SOTC and Demons Souls. And they were meant to be working on orginal content. The remakes were done from the ground up
nial
Gold Member
By SIEJ.
Mibu no ookami
Member
Given's Sony's focus on margins, I'm expecting this to be more expensive than many had hoped. Would love to be wrong there.
Audiophile
Member
Sony is basically one-third PlayStation, there's no way they'll exit.
Kokoloko85
Member
Most the engineers and artists were Bluepoint I think
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
The is is a nothing sushi.
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TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Probably because other studios got back to work and are on production of their second or 3rd title in the same period
nial
Gold Member
Sony Interactive Entertainment Worldwide Studios: Development Team
| Creative Director | Gavin Moore |
Sony Interactive Entertainment Worldwide Studios: Development Team - Production
| Producer | Teruyuki Toriyama |
| Assistant Producer | Kazuma Kizuka |
| Global Coordination Director | June Miki |
| Global Project Coordinators | Brendon Pritchard, Edward Saito |
| Senior Producer | Kentaro Motomura |
| Executive Producer | Yasutaka Asakura |
Sony Interactive Entertainment Worldwide Studios: Development Team - Art
| Lead 3D Artist | Kivi Wakisaka |
| 3D Artist | Saori Kurono |
| Lead Animator | Stephen Anri Marshall |
| Animators | Kazuhiko Matsunaga, Yuki Miyata, Son Taii, Shunan Sukawa, Keita Usami |
| Outsourcing / Animator | Takeshi Hasegawa |
Sony Interactive Entertainment Worldwide Studios: Development Team - Game Designers
| Game Designers | Sho Akimoto, Yoshimi Eguchi, Masashi Kudo, Kenji Tokumaru |
Sony Interactive Entertainment Worldwide Studios: Development Team - Tech Support
| Lead Programmer | Toshitake Tsuchikura |
| Programmer | Tomohito Ito |
Sony Interactive Entertainment Worldwide Studios: Development Team - Audio
| Audio Director | Jeremie Voillot |
| Creative Lead | Derrick Espino |
| Technical Lead | Roel Sanchez |
| Dialogue Lead | Dedrick Sarzaba |
| Sound Manager (JAPAN Studio) | Keiichi Kitahara |
| Sound Lead (JAPAN Studio) | Tomohiro Imura |
| Music Producers | Keith Leary, Peter Scaturro |
| Music Arranger | Bill Hemstapat |
| Music Implementation | Monty Mudd |
| Orchestrator | James Charles Fowler |
| Score Mixer | Kellogg Boynton |
| Original Music | Shunsuke Kida |
| Audio Test Lead | Morgan Fryer-McCulloch |
| Audio Test Analyst | Carissa Winters |
Skifi28
Member
Aion002
Member
Don't buy that PlayStation
It's overpriced and has no online access, and hardly any good games are available to play on it.
www.salon.com
Analyst: "I cannot imagine a PlayStation 4"
Nomura Securities' Yuta Sakurai believes the PS3 will be Sony's last console; sees Hirai appointment as Segalike shift to software.
www.gamespot.com
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Now I'm curious who the main investors in that company are.
Don't buy that PlayStation
It's overpriced and has no online access, and hardly any good games are available to play on it.
Analyst: "I cannot imagine a PlayStation 4"
Nomura Securities' Yuta Sakurai believes the PS3 will be Sony's last console; sees Hirai appointment as Segalike shift to software.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Remember I ain't saying the same studio should be announcing something in the time frame
But didn't they just announced a new Doom.
Kokoloko85
Member
Like I said, most the programers and artists were Bluepoint. They done most the grunt work
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nial
Gold Member
In comparison, this was their role in God of War Ragnarok.
Partner Studios: Bluepoint Games
| Head of Studio | Marco Thrush |
Partner Studios: Bluepoint Games - Engineering
| Head of Technology | Peter Dalton |
| Engineers | John McCoy, Drew Burden, Ted Chauviere, Gregory Allen Roth, Bruce Woodard, Vitor Menezes, Luis Torres, Dak Babcock, Martin Brownlow |
Partner Studios: Bluepoint Games - Design
| Lead Designer | Howard Tang |
| Designers | Alex Gold, Gabriel Amadeo Garcia |
Partner Studios: Bluepoint Games - Art
| Art Director | Mark Skelton |
| Lead Concept Artist | Adam Rehmann |
| Environment Artists | Justin Wagner, Alexis Boyer, Pat Sullivan, Sterling Brucks, Willow Hermoso, Urban McLafferty, Audrey Born, Brianna Gibson, Rebecca Migl, Ryne Shearin |
| Leading Lights Artist | Michael Kahn-Rose |
| Lighting Artists | Myriah Higgins, Katie Houston |
| Visual Effects Artists | James Mestemaker, Dane Shannon-Sparks, Sean Lantis, Dallas Glowka |
| Lead Character Artist | Bob Wallace |
| Character Artists | Alvaro Buendia, Ryan Todd |
| Technical Artists / Destruction | Chris Voellmann, Ben House |
| Lead Technical Animator | Chris Torres |
| Character Technical Artists | David Keating, Trey Lynne, Michael Pezok, Tom Whitzer |
| UI Artist | Michael Veroni |
| Lead Outsourcing Artist | Elben Schafers |
Partner Studios: Bluepoint Games - Production
| Production Director | Daryl Allison |
| Producers | Randall W. Lowe, Hector Aranda, Steven Schaefer, Kinloch Gill IV |
Partner Studios: Bluepoint Games - Quality Assurance
| QA Manager | Jared LaCombe |
| Quality Assurance Analysts | Jeremy Lio, Aaron Davis, Israel Rey, David Dodge, Chris Lyerly, Guadalupe DeLaCruz |
Partner Studios: Bluepoint Games - Additional Dev Support
| Art | Justin Dewey, Kurt Williams, Christian De Los Santos, Seth Baldwin, Anthony Mann, Matthew Via, Raymond Torres |
| QA | Brandon Caunday |
Partner Studios: Bluepoint Games - Studio
| Director of Business & Legal Affairs | Gavino Morin |
| Business Finance & Operations | June Miki |
| HR Manager | Tanya Clarkson |
| Facilities | Nessa Waters |
| Director of Information Technology | Ronald Jason Clarkson |
| IT Administrators | Mike Benedict, Brian Cramer, Raymond Rubio |
Partner Studios: Bluepoint Games - Special Thanks
| Production Babies | Grayson Sage Rubio, Huxley Walter Lynne, Miles Elijah Waters-Gilbert, Oliver Jacob Mathews, Randy Scott Rehmann |
| In Memory of | Ronald Jason Clarkson (23rd January 1971 - 11th December 2021) |
| Special Thanks | To everyone who has been part of our journey, the great relationships we've forged and the great games we've built together, thank you for being part of our growth and welcoming us into the PlayStation Studios family! |
And the cherry on top is the fact that the game credits Sony Interactive Entertainment Inc., the JP branch, instead of Sony Interactive Entertainment LLC, the US branch that produces every single title developed in North America, in-house or externally. It's not mainly a Bluepoint project.
Plus, we already got SIE explicitly referring to them as a support studio, so it's pointless to expect anything relevant from them anytime soon.
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Totoki can do whatever he wants: sell 150m PS5s, sell less than the PS4 and make $20 billion, or something in between.
LTD (Launch Aligned)
PS4 60.1 m ($299)
PS5 59.3 m
PS2 53.85 m ($149)
There's always a target on SIE's back: the price of success.
PlayStation makes the difference between Sony and Panasonic.
All profits are not created equal ... PlayStation profits create more value for shareholders.
PlayStation is having a stellar year: no matter how hard you try, you can't please everyone
According to Totoki
LTD (Launch Aligned)
PS4 60.1 m ($299)
PS5 59.3 m
PS2 53.85 m ($149)
Don't buy that PlayStation
It's overpriced and has no online access, and hardly any good games are available to play on it.
Analyst: "I cannot imagine a PlayStation 4"
Nomura Securities' Yuta Sakurai believes the PS3 will be Sony's last console; sees Hirai appointment as Segalike shift to software.
There's always a target on SIE's back: the price of success.
PlayStation makes the difference between Sony and Panasonic.
All profits are not created equal ... PlayStation profits create more value for shareholders.
PlayStation is having a stellar year: no matter how hard you try, you can't please everyone
According to Totoki
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
We know, this article even says they're making profit.
This isn't the point.
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A.Romero
Member
Wow, what an article.
Do they really think Sony suddenly forget what they are doing? They would need to believe value for shareholders is created out of thin air instead of a result in order to completely unlink profit made from products created to sell.
I mean, Sony has always been looking to make a profit and they do it through selling games and services. How does this guy think Sony will achieve the first without acomplishing the second?
Do they really think Sony suddenly forget what they are doing? They would need to believe value for shareholders is created out of thin air instead of a result in order to completely unlink profit made from products created to sell.
I mean, Sony has always been looking to make a profit and they do it through selling games and services. How does this guy think Sony will achieve the first without acomplishing the second?
Astray
Member
I think the fact that Microsoft felt safe to price that 2TB Series X at $600 says a lot about how confident they are that Sony will price the PS5 Pro above that.
Kokoloko85
Member
Your comparing God of War Ragnarok mostly made from Santa Monica to a remake. Bluepoint was the main portion behind SOTC and Demons Souls. Yes they are a support studio now, but they can make important games. Sony would of been wise to have the same people making SOTC and Demons Souls on another remake, or give Bluepoint some more support to make another remake. Since 2020 theres no reason why they couldnt produce a game
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nial
Gold Member
I already showed you that SIEJ led development on these remakes.
They have so few designers to even make a remake by their own, let alone a new game.
Sorry to tell you this, but they're currently just a support studio, and nothing is going to change that.
Mibu no ookami
Member
Same unfortunately.
ProtoByte
Gold Member
And third parties don't actually outprofit successful platform holders.
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
It's a good time to be picking up Ps3 games. So many cheap games right now, that's a lot of what I've been scooping up over the past year. Ps3, 360, even Ps4 titles. Bargain bin prices, library exploded.
fudgybrownie
Neo Member
The special edition will only be available in select markets in limited quantities. The price is that high because of the extra storage.
Astray
Member
Lmao no.
The price of nvme ssds has gone down since the 2020.
Also there's nothing stopping them from making it an ongoing part of the Xbox hardware lineup.
Kamina
Golden Boy
“No. The PS2 is not the revolutionary device that Sony's marketing department would have you believe.”Don't buy that PlayStation
It's overpriced and has no online access, and hardly any good games are available to play on it.
Analyst: "I cannot imagine a PlayStation 4"
Nomura Securities' Yuta Sakurai believes the PS3 will be Sony's last console; sees Hirai appointment as Segalike shift to software.
Angry_Megalodon
Gold Member
I expect a major shake-up at PS Studios within 3-4 years. Hermen Hulst's job depends on the success of the new SM and ND's new IPs. If they are not hits like GOW or TLOU, he will be in serious trouble. Also, studios like Bend, MM, Haven, and Firesprite are all question marks.
Only Insomniac, Guerrilla and Sucker Punch are safe bets right now. Asobi and Housemarque too, but those are niche compared to the others.
Only Insomniac, Guerrilla and Sucker Punch are safe bets right now. Asobi and Housemarque too, but those are niche compared to the others.
fudgybrownie
Neo Member
They will stop when it sits on the store shelf collecting dust.
From the xbox website - "Xbox Series X – 2TB Galaxy Black Special Edition will be available in limited quantities in select markets."
And Xbox uses the proprietary ones. And those are still expensive. So they priced it accordingly with the price of their ssds.
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Astray
Member
The internal ones are regular m.2 2230 drives. Those are getting cheaper too (because of adoption in the new pc handhelds). The add-on drives are the proprietary ones.
Also they can call it limited however they like, if it sells they will keep it, it's literally a bump on SSD size and some paint splatter on the regular Series X shell.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Don't forget MS also priced the Xbox One at $500, when the PS4 was priced at $400. So are you believing MS was confident that the PS4 would have been $500 too back then? Or just over confident that they could out sale the PS4 even though it's $100 cheaper?
So you also think the PS5 Pro will be $700 or more?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Pro, $500 tops.
Bet.
Bet.
nial
Gold Member
Forgetting Polyphony Digital is a crime. SIE SMS is already a safe bet due to the next God of War, oh and there's also SIE SDS, I guess.
Sushi_Combo
Member
mayham2199
Member
No way. i think it's $600 at least.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Mibu no ookami
Member
I think we could see a digital version for 600-650 and a non digital version for 650-700.
I think that makes more sense for the margins Sony is probably looking to get.
I had initially hoped that the PS5 Pro would launch for 500 and that the PS5 would drop to 400 and the digital to 350. I just don't see that happening this year. With no price cut, the minimum I think we would see a Pro for is 600.
Given that the PS5 is still losing money, and they probably want to make money on the Pro, I think it would need to be more than 600 without some cost savings, hence 600 for a digital version. If it maintains the same price structure of the PS5, the disc version would be 50 dollars more.
That's obviously assuming they keep two versions like the normal skus.
Astray
Member
They thought they were having a technological edge thru the Kinect (which also brought their costs up).
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Remember, pricing threshold still has to appeal to people to not say "fuck it at this point" and just go PC.
Approaching $700-$800 is cutting it very, very close to that.
It's just not in their design philosophy. But I guess we will see.
Approaching $700-$800 is cutting it very, very close to that.
It's just not in their design philosophy. But I guess we will see.
Skifi28
Member
It'll also depend on what the leather jacket dude prices the 5xx series and I assume it won't be pretty. If you can get an entire system for 700 that matches a decent PC and also has AI upscaling you're looking at a pretty good deal. A "basic" 4070 alone costed me 650 euros last year and I imagine it's only going up with the next series. If there was a pro back then for 700, I probably wouldn't have even bothered with the gpu.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I still think it's cutting it close when you have 3 series systems and the like that are in that full PC pricing wheelhouse.
And a 3 series DLSS is still running circles around these current machines.
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Skifi28
Member
For the record, I'm betting on 550-600 myself, but the value will probably be there even a little higher. 700 seems like a worst case scenario if chip prices go out of control or Sony completely loses touch with reality.