All external dvd drives I can find are slim, I'd prefer not to use those to rip my CD collection.
What? Why may I ask?
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor (Purchased For $50.00)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (Purchased For $65.00)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($110.00)
Memory: Kingston Fury Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $50.00)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($356.13 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Commander G42 ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $70.00)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For $10.00)
Total: $711.13
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Hitachi.Looking for a 2+ GB hard drive for storing media. Looks like WD Blues don't go above 1TB and I'd like a reasonably quiet drive since performance isn't critical, making Blacks impractical.
Neither. Get this instead: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005ILWY9G/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Is liquid cooling necessary for a Pentium? That seems like overkill, but I'm no expert.
It's still like 300W of cooling for a 150W chip, even OC'd. There would be room in the budget to swap that for a 4670K with moving parts around, but it's already purchased.It's a Pentium K. They're planning to OC that sucker to 4.5GHz+ I bet.
The NZXT Grid is pretty close to what you're looking for.You know how some PC cases have a fan speed switch on the back that can control 2-3 case fans? Can you get those as an accessory? All I can find are 5.25" controllers which I can't fit on my prodigy
It's still like 300W of cooling for a 150W chip, even OC'd. There would be room in the budget to swap that for a 4670K with moving parts around, but it's already purchased.
Fear that it's less reliable for ripping and a bad DVD drive may even scratch discs, especially if it's a cheaply produced slim drive. I won't take that risk.
Thanks. Just bought it. Hopefully I can start assembling by weekend. Hyped.Neither. Get this instead: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005ILWY9G/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Is liquid cooling necessary for a Pentium? That seems like overkill, but I'm no expert.
I dont think im going to change your mind but heres some things to consider:
- Millions of these things get sold and im yet to hear a complaint in all my years of PC building. Reliable? It either works or it doesnt, i guess some drives maybe more forgiving if the CDs are in poor condition.
- After you ripped all your CDs then you have a redundant drive?
Samsung/Sony make drives for years, whats wrong with their offerings?
It's still like 300W of cooling for a 150W chip, even OC'd. There would be room in the budget to swap that for a 4670K with moving parts around, but it's already purchased.
The NZXT Grid is pretty close to what you're looking for.
I'm not sure, but probably.Thanks. Alternatively, is something like this safe to use?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Akasa-AK-CB002-PWM-splitter-smart/dp/B001J2YRUC
I guess I'm just paranoid and yes, once I've ripped everything I won't use it much except for the occasional new CD I buy (rarely). I keep it more as a back-up though as I still play the CDs often, so I'd hate to get them scratched. I can change my mind about this, would make picking a new PC easier.
I've been checking out the Intel NUC and that would be a poor choice for me. Can't fit a regular HDD (and not more than one), no VGA output (don't want to upgrade my monitor for another while), only 1 or no USB 3.0 ports on the <300 versions,...
The way I see it now I will choose between these 2 options:
- Mini ITX: AMD 5350 is most appealing but has no USB 3.0 headers rendering the USB 3.0 ports on most cases useless. There's an ASRock motherboard with USB 3.0 headers but I see a lot of reviews complaining about random rebooting every hour. What would be the best/cheapest Mini ITX motherboard/CPU combo that's not AM1?
- Micro ATX: much bigger case, but at least the Micro ATX AM1 motherboards have USB 3.0 headers and more SATA slots. Cheaper than a Mini ITX with Intel CPU. Shame about all the empty unused space in the case though.
Put it in the top one. It doesn't matter if it is nearly blocked, as long as it isn't blocked. There's no airflow or anything that happens there.GAF, last question I have for you guys.I hope
I have this motherboard ASUS Maximus VII Hero
Can I plug the GPU into either PCIe 3.0 slot? The PCIe 3.0 slot closest to the CPU is nearly blocked by the CM V8 GTS Heatsink
So it's a must? It looks like I have about an inch of room (maybe a little less) from the heatsink to the PCIe slot. I hope that's enough.Put it in the top one. It doesn't matter if it is nearly blocked, as long as it isn't blocked. There's no airflow or anything that happens there.
I think the second one is only x8.
You only need a mm of clearance, so that's plenty.So it's a must? It looks like I have about an inch of room (maybe a little less) from the heatsink to the PCIe slot. I hope that's enough.
In the MOBO specs it says 2 (single at x16 or dual at x8/x8 mode). So they aren't both x16?
This is actually the thing holding me up on X99. I don't like any of the mATX X99 boards. The EVGA one has some weird quirky design decisions. Supposedly Gigabyte will have one coming soonish.Well it's finally time to build a new PC aftter holding off a year. Only thing is Z97 or X99. I'm going mATX, but X99 only has ASrock and eVga mATX. I prefer Gigabyte or Asus.
How are eVga boards?
So it's a must? It looks like I have about an inch of room (maybe a little less) from the heatsink to the PCIe slot. I hope that's enough.
In the MOBO specs it says 2 (single at x16 or dual at x8/x8 mode). So they aren't both x16?
Whats the PC being used for and whats the requirements you need? Link me to your original post as i think ive missed it.
Ok, thanks.You only need a mm of clearance, so that's plenty.
That's great just in case it does not fit, thank you.Wouldnt say its a must, since even the best GPUs dont see an advantage from PCIE 3.0, let alone x8 vs x16. We see a very insignificant difference even between PCIE 2.0 x8 and x16. If it really doesnt fit just use the other slot. Inch of room is more than enough.
You only need a mm of clearance, so that's plenty.
This is actually the thing holding me up on X99. I don't like any of the mATX X99 boards. The EVGA one has some weird quirky design decisions. Supposedly Gigabyte will have one coming soonish.
What's the BSOD error?
I'd make sure you have a backup then give CCleaner and DDU a shot.
Usually a memory or Windows installation / HDD problem. First thing to do is update your Flash and Java and Browsers.
Do a backup and give Memtest a run then Spinrite (Falcon Four or other resource CD will have it).
Never tried it before but I think a couple of programs like Nvidia Inspector and Dxtory have frame limiting optionsHoly shit. The difference between my 660 Ti and 980 is unbelievable. Before I would heavily struggle with a mix of High / Ultra on Far Cry 3, now it's just decimates it at complete Ultra.
Edit: Is there a program that can limit FPS on certain games, without a need to be actively recording, like Fraps or whatever.
Even a single 970 should work well for a lot of games outSo for 120/144 FPS (even at med graphics) I will probably need 2x 970s?
What type of connection port and cable would I want to use for max FPS?
Nope. I haven't met a game I couldn't keep at at least 100 FPS with the 290, let alone the 780 Ti. A single 970 would suffice.So for 120/144 FPS (even at med graphics) I will probably need 2x 970s?
What type of connection port and cable would I want to use for max FPS?
Nope. I haven't met a game I couldn't keep at at least 100 FPS with the 290, let alone the 780 Ti. A single 970 would suffice.
I'm curious mkenyon, do CPU limitations not become a bit of an issue at such high framerates?Nope. I haven't met a game I couldn't keep at at least 100 FPS with the 290, let alone the 780 Ti. A single 970 would suffice.
They do. It's really important to have a high clocked Intel i5/i7 in order to maintain the smooth rate. You get a lot more dips when the processors are in the 3.0-3.8 range. At around 4.2-4.4, all is well.I'm curious mkenyon, do CPU limitations not become a bit of an issue at such high framerates?
Just don't run Furmark and Prime 95 at the same time, and it should be fine.Tell me GAF, am I about to make a huge mistake.
GTX 970 SLI + 3570k overclocked to 4.2Ghz + Super Flower 650W Golden King Platinum (it's a quality PSU, you haven't heard of it because they aren't really available in the US).
Some people are telling me it's fine. Some people are telling me it's not going to work. I'm hoping the latter are people who just see SLI and start talking about 800W+ without knowing about the 9xx series power usage...
Should I give it a go or is something going to break?
Quick question: My old-ish PC (like 2+ years) runs on an i7 2600 (sandy bridge iirc), am I correct in assuming this is still fine for gaming? My GPU is a Radeon 6870, which is definitely getting long in the tooth, but is it worth upgrading just the GPU with this processor or is it gonna be a bottleneck anyways?
2600 or 2600k? If it's the former and not capable of being overclocked then it's a little long in the tooth. If it's the K version and can be overclocked, you'll be fine with a new GPU.
Browsing and music (VLC/Spotify/EAC to rip CDs), that's it. I want it to be as cheap as possible (<$120 for CPU/mobo combo) and future proof enough that I can still browse and play music smoothly in 5 years. I want to be able to connect 1 optical drive and 2 HDDs to the motherboard, so 3 SATA slots will be enough (even 2 is enough if I opt for an external DVD drive). I want front USB 3.0 ports, so USB 3.0 headers are another requirement.
I'm either getting a microATX mini tower or a miniITX Antec case with included PSU. I'd like to know what the best cheap options for CPU/mobo are in both cases. I'm also wondering if the PSUs that Antec include in their miniITX cases are decent/reliable.
non-K, I think. No K in the dxdiag screen, anyway. But I haven't got the box anymore.
Welp, I literally can't do anything on my PC. Can't install windows updates because it blue screens...can't install any kind of nvidia updates because it blue screens. Great intro to the PC gaming world. Can't even return my gpu because it's out of warranty already I guess
I have a gtx 780 ti sli config right now and am tempted to sell them to do 980 SLi. I'll probably break even with the exchange but not sure if it's worth the hassle. Thoughts?
Overclocking the 970 (gigabyte):
I'm using Precision-X. My factory gpu clock is (1329 in gpu-z, 1380 in benchmark) . The voltage slider is grayed out so I'm assuming I don't need to mess with it unlike my gtx 670 ftw (don't want to use K-boost or overvoltage). I'm also guessing I don't need a custom fan profile since the gigabyte is insanely cool (maintaining around 60C at benchmark full load w/ no OC).
Anyone else here overclock this card? Did you only mess with power target, gpu clock offset, and mem clock offset? This card is phenomenal so far, almost silent even under full load. My hyper 212 drowns it out completely and that's not even loud at all.
Slightly over budget at $150, but have you considered a Pentium G3258 and ASRock H97M-ITX motherboard? Board has built in Wifi, 5 SATA 3 ports, 6 USB 3.0 (2 Front, 4 Rear), 4 USB 2.0 (2 Front, 2 Rear)
For the case consider a Coolermaster Elite 130, it has 2x front USB 3.0 ports and full size optical disk drive bay. Up to 3 HDDs too.
This machine could be turned into a gaming PC by adding a GPU any time down the line, and in a few years swapping the CPU out all the way up to a i7 4790K. So great future proofing as well.
As for a PSU, if you have no intention of ever adding a GPU then a 350W would be enough. If you want a mid range GPU, then 450W, and high end GPU, 550W.
Lastly, you can add an SSD for that super performance boost feeling as you will no longer be waiting for any of you Audio ripping programs to open, or VLC application to load up. Everything OS wise will be super snappy. Crucial MX100 is recommended if you are to buy today.
If you go with anything that has a preinstalled CPU, then you will be out of luck in a year or so. That is a bad strategy if you want any kind of upgrade path.
Non K can still be overclocked a few multipliers. Its only when Haswell released Intel stopped this. I have my 3770 non-K at 4.2Ghz with a 41x Multiplier and 102Mhz bclk. Hyper 212 Evo will be enough for such an overclock and will be very beneficial.
Download BSOD Viewer and double click on a few different BSODs in the list. Take a screenshot of the resulting pop up window and post here.
If you can break even then its 100% worth it. When is free performance not worth it? lol
That's a really interesting idea, thanks. I think Pentium G3220 would be enough for me already? As far as I can see the Pentium beats any AMD A4 and A6 CPU, right?