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Important new Pokemon announcement coming on Jan 8 [Up: Hyped By NA Twitter]
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Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
That and psychics already have Miracle Eye move which is like Foreseight and Odor Sleuth except for psychic -> dark. And it's because of dark types' pragmatism being full on non-predictability that makes them immune to psychic.
It's been 3 years. It's always 3-4 years between Gens.
3 - 4 years between gens. Perfect time for Gen 6.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
You guys have got it all wrong. The reason Psychic-types are weak to Bug, Dark and Ghost is because Entomophobia, Nyktophobia and Ectophobia are the three most common fears, and thus make it hard for Psychic-types to concentrate. Psychic doesn't affect Dark-type because the fear completely overtakes their minds, and it's not very effective against Steel-types because they rely on their bodies rather than their minds to fight.
There's also typically a lot of grass Pokemon on early routes, often with absorb or vine whip. It could work if they don't start the game with a rival battle, since that would be somewhat unfair.
You could argue then why it is effective agains Fighting
But B2/W2 came out in 2012!
That's more like the 3rd version of BW which has no barring on when a new game comes out.
Organized fighters have to have as much mental focus as they do physical strength. Combat pragmatism just takes the cheap shots, fighters maintain a stance and fight with finesse, which is easily lost when they're being bombarded mentally.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I thought the bug weakness was more of bug minds being super complex or something, but that explanation works.
I think he means fighting being weak to psychic
Fighters tend to be easy to pluck mentally.
That's just the typical third version put out in a new way. Since the first B/W it's been quite a while.
JordanN
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Edit: I think it comes down to a battle of wits. Fighting types aren't smart enough to resist a psychic so they can easily be caught off guard/manipulated.
Think of it as Fighting types having an IQ of 100 whereas a Psychic is several times that.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Martial artists need to focus in order to be effective in battle, and thus would be very vulnerable if that focus was broken.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
With that said go blame the machamp line for propagating that. Many new fighting types tend to be "attuned" despite being non psychic (see Lucario) or are actually pretty smart despite non psychic (Conkeldurr).
That's what I was talking about
(though I had to edit it because I wasn't being very clear)
so THAT'S why most fighting types are brown
Bulbagarden
Member
*resists temptation to pull out a Shinken Brown picture in response to this*
WiiRevolution1
Member
It seems like its a new mainline game which is good. Whether its 6th Gen, B&W3, or R/S remakes I'm there...even if its on DS again :lol
I still haven't gotten around to B&W2 yet >_< I honesly hope its R/S remakes since I wanna catch them all and its hard on the GBA versions since no DS style sleep mode really kills it. Its also about time for a remake of R/B again. I fully expect that within the next 3 years so it'll be interesting to see how its done.
I'd rather have it be 2D but it seems like its gonna be in 3D. Hope they pull it off.
I still haven't gotten around to B&W2 yet >_< I honesly hope its R/S remakes since I wanna catch them all and its hard on the GBA versions since no DS style sleep mode really kills it. Its also about time for a remake of R/B again. I fully expect that within the next 3 years so it'll be interesting to see how its done.
I'd rather have it be 2D but it seems like its gonna be in 3D. Hope they pull it off.
Seeing this reminded me that the west needs a break.
2006: -
2007: Diamond / Pearl
2008: -
2009: Platinum
2010: Heart Gold / Superior Silver
2011: Black / White
2012: Black 2 / White 2
2013: ?
Even with the simultaneous announcement surely they'll slide Gen VI to March '14 in the west right? I guess we'll see just how badly NoA & NoE need a 3DS seller...
I think the pkmn'll still be sprites. Not only do sprites rule but they gotta sell them console Staoloution "now battle your pkmn in 3d!" games somehow!
ColtraineGF
Member
If Japan gets it fall 2013, we'll get it spring 2014 - nothing is due this year for the west.
StreetsAhead
Member
ALthough 3rd versions have usually been handled by the same team as the main games, BW2 was developed by the 'remake' or second team, leaving the main team free to have been developing Gen 6 the whole time. Given the release schedules, it may have been a conscious decision not to delay the 3DS games too long by burdening the team and not wanting RS remakes to be the first games on 3DS.
Exterminieren
Banned
I reckon it will be like the Black and White confirmation; names, mascots and very rough launch window.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I wonder if it will be science vs magic
BuggyDClown
Member
Yeah.. but we have the Pokedex 3D models. They have every pokemon made and modeled already, they just need to make the new ones.
StreetsAhead
Member
Self-indulgent drivel by a self-important hack on the internet.
B2/W2 was the speediest localization & exception to finally get the DS outta the way in the west then?
Those were all used in Battle Revolution / PokéPark / PokéPark 2. Not like they made 'em specifically for that application. And since those were all spinoffs, did Game Freak even make those models? I doubt they'd use old outsourced materials for their revolution!
StreetsAhead
Member
IIRC, the older Pokemon were remodelled for the first time ever and I think Creatures is credited with their production.
Exterminieren
Banned
Yeah. Some Battle Revolution Pokemon were still sporting their Stadium models.
So your average NeoGAF post?
BuggyDClown
Member
Yes. No streetpass, and it's tougher for trading and battling on the go. It's a staple of the series and part of why they make two versions.
If we ever get a console pokemon it will be a very differnt experiance, I welcome that and there's many narratives it can take but I don't want the same game ported to a console. I would like it to be a unique experiance.
ColtraineGF
Member
It was fast (about 4 months vs. 6 months). But again, we'll definitely see it in 2014 if Japan gets it in the fall (they've been getting the main pair released in September for a while now).
I mean, if Nintendo actually manages to get it out over here before Christmas... whoa.
Well, most of the old models are newly remodeled in Dex 3D Pro. Also, I suspect they'll get used again, and again, and again... for next gen in any Pokemon game, spinoff or no, 3DS or Wii U. They aren't gonna ignore all those models for sprites in the next games, I can almost guarantee it.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
Capcom have no stake in pushing 3DS sales. Nintendo do need to do so in the west and Pokemon is the trump in doing so.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
I noticed recently that there's like only one pure Flying. let's go for it.
I could see that happening, especially since this reveal is being hyped up worldwide, wouldn't really want it to be just names I guess.
I wonder what they'll name this next pair.
Game Freak built the game around it being handheld only and I don't think they're going to change it any time soon.
BuggyDClown
Member
They need to get it out here this fall, spring '14 at the absolute latest. It would help give the 3DS the boost it needs. Also totally agree with the 3D models, vs sprites.
Ae they really going to ignore 3D models ready to go, just to make new high res sprites. Since they would need new sprite models at a higher resolution for the 3DS.
PaineReign
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Hype killer: could it literally be nothing more than a new Pokemon Movie? I assume they still make those, and a single twitter post does not sound like PR enough for a new mainline game.
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