AcademicSaucer
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I was waiting for IndieGamerChick leaks.
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IndieGamerChick: NX more powerful than PS4/XB1, easy to develop for [rumor]
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If they were we wouldn't be refering to them by these names.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Agreed. Then when the PS5 and XBox Two comes out, it will be significantly weaker again. I think Nintendo should try to make the NX significantly more powerful than the XBox One and PS4 to remain relevant throughout this generation and possibly even the next specification-wise. Honestly though, the issue is probably more with third party support than power I think, especially if Nintendo fans neglect third party offering again.
Chie Satonaka
Member
I absolutely think that the lack of power hurt Nintendo in this generation (among other things), and while "power" isn't especially important to me, it seems foolish not to come out the gate with a strong console, especially considering that XBO.5/PS4.5 are apparently a thing.
That said (and I'm not giving this particular rumor credibility, just speaking in general) if the NX is really easy to develop for, that might make it as appealing as the new current gen upgrades.
tl;dr I agree with you. But who fucking knows what's going to happen. It's goddamned Nintendo.
The speculation is getting fun, though.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I absolutely think that the lack of power hurt Nintendo in this generation (among other things), and while "power" isn't especially important to me, it seems foolish not to come out the gate with a strong console, especially considering that XBO.5/PS4.5 are apparently a thing.
That said (and I'm not giving this particular rumor credibility, just speaking in general) if the NX is really easy to develop for, that might make it as appealing as the new current gen upgrades.
tl;dr I agree with you. But who fucking knows what's going to happen. It's goddamned Nintendo.
The speculation is getting fun, though.
Wait. There is an XBox One2? First PS4.5 and now another XBox? I thought the upgradeable XBox system was rumored to be their next generation system?
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
Sony and Microsoft are going VERY upmarket, especially PlayStation, with VR and 4K. Those are not mass market propositions.
I think the regular PS4 will still be the main unit.
It's a great opportunity for Nintendo now.
prob on par with those, I hope people dont think those are about to be a generational type leap in power lol
And more in one way to play NX is pretty much the same as Wii and Wiiu so not a shocker
Ricerocket
Member
Yes but not in a modular way (it'd basically be a w10 PC...), a brand new system with more recent tech like iPhone 6 ---> iPhone6s.
wonderful103
Member
Guys power is not very high up on the problem spectrum of Wii u. It's probably not even top 10. It is insignificant compared to the other issues that Nintendo had with the console, some of which are even addressed in these rumours.
People who actually give a damn about power aren't using consoles as their primary gaming platform.
People who actually give a damn about power aren't using consoles as their primary gaming platform.
Confused Cheeseburger
Member
I think this thread is indicative of what I'm talking about. There is a notion here that the NX will immediately fall begin because the ps4k and xb1.5 are allegedly on the way, and place it a wiiu position again in terms of horsepower. I dont think the gap will blow us away, logistically that's just a bad move for Sony in particular given that PSVR is already an uphill battle. Have to wait and see.
Type_Raver
Member
Tell us something new...
Its basically regurgitated information which is very easy to repeat and make a statement of, EG: bogus controller reports recently. If that had come out BEFORE the trollers came forward then it might be something.
On the other hand, some of you raise a good point. Now that the PS4.5K rumors are getting a head of steam, will NX be a match or more for that? I think it would quickly take the wind out of Nintendo's sails if it were more powerful than PS4, only then for the PS4.5K be announced and devs stat its more powerful than NX.
The NX needs to have something thats a clear step up. I think something like it having 16GB RAM as opposed to 8GB like the current gen systems would be a good indicator.
Its basically regurgitated information which is very easy to repeat and make a statement of, EG: bogus controller reports recently. If that had come out BEFORE the trollers came forward then it might be something.
On the other hand, some of you raise a good point. Now that the PS4.5K rumors are getting a head of steam, will NX be a match or more for that? I think it would quickly take the wind out of Nintendo's sails if it were more powerful than PS4, only then for the PS4.5K be announced and devs stat its more powerful than NX.
The NX needs to have something thats a clear step up. I think something like it having 16GB RAM as opposed to 8GB like the current gen systems would be a good indicator.
I'm confused why people are spreading that devs will focus on the PS4K and Xbox 1.5. I figured these wernt huge jumps and the main PS4/XBONE would be your main systems.
Lol one guy even said they wont develop for NX becouse its weaker then PS4K and Xbox 1.5, LOL so do they really think devs are gonna abandon Xbox one and PS4 too
sevenchaos
Banned
Imagine a Nintendo console that rivaled in power to the 4k and One.5, and allowed the games to cross-pollinate to a handheld of Wii U proportions so you can game any time, anywhere.
It would be so magical.
It would be so magical.
Okay first the Xbox One and PS4 are a couple years old. Second, NX is competing with Xbox One and PS4. It's incredibly risky to try and create a console that is next gen like more powerful than those two.
Also, it's possible that this gen could last 4 or 5 more years. That wouldn't hurt Nintendo.
As for Nintendo fans neglecting 3rd party offerings...I mean it's such a poor argument considering 3rd party offerings for Wii U were largely crap ports. I mean didn't a couple ports not have features that were in the PS360 versions?
Head.spawn
Junior Member
MS actually came out and said upgrading hardware is their intention like a month ago or so.
Deserted Maniac Island
Member
I'm so sick of NX rumors and "leaks" ... *Sigh*
Confused Cheeseburger
Member
Yup, but the narrative of significant power is taking off now apparently without proof.
I'd like to think that that would make her a reputable source.
Gormless Noodle
Member
I sincerely doubt the NX is going to be on par with the Xbone/PS4, let alone the upgraded versions of those systems. Although I guess the PS4K and Xbone.5 will be sort of a pre-emptive measure just in case Nintendo actually did lose their minds and attempted to capture the "core" market again for the first time since the Wii.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Maybe you read me wrong, but I'd expect the NX to fall in line with whatever MS/Sony are cooking up next as far as power goes, if not better. I was referring to the current PS4/XBO as "the established".
If they released something similar to what MS and Sony released three years ago, I'm not going to lie, I'd be a bit disappointed because we know they could easily do better.
An upgraded PS4 puts PSVR in a potentially better spot, since better specs will absolutely lead to a better experience.
Yekshemesh
Member
Pls let this be a joke post lol
Regarding the rumor.. I never expected Nintendo to go beyond PS4 levels so *if* this is true then color me surprised. For Nintendo games (basically the only reason why I get their consoles) should be way more than enough to produce some pretty games.
Third party support etc is good but not a priority for me.
neurosisxeno
Member
You're gonna have a bad time.
Fredrik
Member
You think they'll ignore a userbase of 40 million PS4 and 20 million XB1 owners and claim that those consoles are too weak too? No way. At this point it doesn't matter how powerful XB1.5 and PS4K is, PS4 will still be the dev target platform on consoles until this generation is over, if NX hits that power bullet point then third parties will have to make up new excuses, my guess is that they'll use the ancient excuse that Nintendo's customers are all kids or only buy Nintendo games.
potatohead
Member
2 and a 1/2 years does not several make.
You're gonna be surprised.
Matching the PS4 or exceeding it doesn't mean Nintendo went crazy, it's necessary to have power to succeed in the console market now.
cartographer
Member
Has this turned into the random NX speculation thread yet.
I don't know her track record. However, this seems like pretty routine stuff that could be passed around freely if you know people.
As always though vague claims like this don't mean much until we see how it works in practice.
True or not doesn't really affect how I view the NX.
I don't know her track record. However, this seems like pretty routine stuff that could be passed around freely if you know people.
As always though vague claims like this don't mean much until we see how it works in practice.
True or not doesn't really affect how I view the NX.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Well, if the console isn't releasing for over another 1/2 a year, so that'd definitely make it several when it actually releases.
Initial rumors were putting it around the Xbox One, comparatively. All the rumors around Microsoft and Sony looking at more frequently iterated hardware started making the prospect of a singular NX with an X1's power all the more tragic.
wonderful103
Member
And this is why the hardcore segment on neogaf isn't representative of the entire market nor is it understood. The ps4 (which isn't even powerful) is a great product with full support, better pricing and mindshare and great marketing and messaging, and it doing decently is (in general) not because it is the more powerful device of the 3.
pixelation
Member
Well it better be. I am most interested in the controller, please go with an orthodox type this time.
potatohead
Member
3 years does not several make.
Has anyone heard of "a few?" Any takers? I will accept this answer.
neurosisxeno
Member
The tech in them is older than the consoles themselves. The GPU's are first gen GCN cores which launched commercially in 2011, and the CPU uses AMD Jaguar cores which first came to be around 2013. So the parts range from 3 years to 5 years old--several is the correct term.
reelbigtink
Member
As a big Nintendo fan I've started to believe every "worst case scenario" rumor about NX, after being burned so often. So the X1 power rumor is probably true.
reelbigtink
Member
A Playstation 4K upgrade isn't going to be why (if) the NX fails.
Fredrik
Member
Barely even 2 years ago in Japan, launched in feb 2014, and XB1 launched 1.5 years ago in many countries, sep 2014. Several years ago... heh
You don't know what either of them are yet.
But it's the most powerful console, and they've used it in their marketing.
The point is people need to stop being surprised or automatically wrote off anything that suggests Nintendo will release a console on par with the other two companies. It's ivcous that gimped hardware with a gimmick isn't working anymore, as Wii U and 3DS are proving.
I bet if the rumor was the NX was a bit weaker than the XB1, then people would take the rumor more openly and not doubt it as much.
You mean fangirl, you misogynist!
GameAddict411
Member
I doubt it, and the way she uses language is obviously biased. "Best tools ever" lol. I think it's just a fanboy's wet dream.
potatohead
Member
And yet that same rule applies to the tech in the NX.
If you make that addition to years to the PS4 tech, then the same will apply to the NX. Now what is the difference in years?
3 years.
Do people not get this?
I always find this amazing... so easy to point out the flaw in others logic yet ironically cannot find it in their own lol. Let alone this qualifier wasn't in the original statement but I digress. Oh reading comprehension what happened to thee?
Gormless Noodle
Member
I'm pretty confident I won't be. You're daydreaming if you think Nintendo is going that high spec. And for what reason would they do that? You honestly think they're gonna waltz in during the middle of the generation and expect core gamers to jump ship to the NX? These people aren't interested in Nintendo and Nintendo isn't interested in them. They wanna fish in that big blue ocean again like they did with the Wii and the DS. You just need acceptable performance for that, anything more is a waste of time and money.