Rran
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I pegged the first guy as being sincere, but that second quote has me genuinely asking the same question lol
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Jefferies Equity Analyst: Mario Kart 8D a "mega-hit on a different scale altogether"
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The Hermit
Member
this is a very good version of the meme
gregor7777
Banned
NeoGaf votes! Was this post satire? You decide!
BRocknRolla
Member
There's an embarrassment of embarrassing, yet wholly sincere posts in here.
Keep up the "Switch has no games" narrative, and you just might get it to stick. You got to want it people.
Keep up the "Switch has no games" narrative, and you just might get it to stick. You got to want it people.
GiantBreadbug
Member
"Well if we don't count indie games as clearly they aren't actual games"
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Dattebayo!!
PHOENIXZERO
Member
This is dumb, of course it sold ridiculously well, you got a couple million people out there who mainly bought the Switch for one game and after two months this Mario Kart game is probably the second really meaningful release on it and a lot of those people probably didn't play the WiiU version considering how small its install base was it might as well be considered an full on exclusive.
Sky Walker
Member
Empyrean Heaven
Member
Wasn't Mario Kart Wii the best selling game on Wii if you don't count Wii Sports or Wii Play?
I'd say this is not unexpected.
I'd say this is not unexpected.
Storm Kyleis
Member
Mario Kart Wii (which is now Nintendo's third best selling game of all time) came out during the peak of the Wii.
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is a port of a 2014 game, on a new console with an almost non-existent installed base.
The fact MK8D sold more at launch is incredible.
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is a port of a 2014 game, on a new console with an almost non-existent installed base.
The fact MK8D sold more at launch is incredible.
Its hard to tell anymore lol
Switch has games, just not a whole lot of them.
I mean, it has no games if you squint your eyes hard enough.
- Doesn't count because it's a port: Binding of Isaac, Shovel Knight, Splatoon
- Doesn't count because it's a glorified port: Fast RMX, Mario Kart 8: Deluxe
- Doesn't count because it's on other platforms: Zelda, Puyo Puyo Tetris, Wonder Boy, Snake Pass, Tumbleseed
- Doesn't count because I said so: Bomberman, Blaster Master Zero, Graceful Explosion Machine, Snipperclips
- Doesn't count because it's Vroom in the Night Sky: Vroom in the Night Sky
Triplicates
Member
This. There's a disconnect in the discussion. Obviously it's not surprising that a Mario Kart game is selling well, but this is not the news. On the other hand, it probably should be a surprise that MK8D has the biggest opening in franchise history. In all seriousness, if people truly projected that with any degree of certainty, they should take Atul Goyal's job.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Uh no, MKWii already sold something stupid like 25+m before it was bundled.
Hahaha, amazing
The "starving Switch owners" narrative still makes no sense in the context of a console that's only been out for two months from the beginning of March. (You'll understand later in this post.)
If Mario Kart 8 Deluxe did shit sales, no one would say Switch owners are starving. If the Wonderful​ 101 released instead of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, no one would say it would have done well in sales because Switch owners are starving since we know it released on the Wii U after a very long software drought but still did shit in sales.
Then there's the fact that AAA releases are few and far between now. Western 3rd parties release the majority of their AAA titles at the end of the calendar year to take advantage of sales during holidays especially with how front loaded their titles are since they always release a sequel annually, CoD anyone?
If Switch had launched during the holidays, there was always the possibility they would have had a western 3rd party AAA title at launch, whether there's actually going to be any announced for this year at E3? I don't know. The point is there would've been more games during a holiday launch due to western third parties as opposed to launching in March.
Following from how there are much less AAA games now because of the risks involved and it how destroyed studios for failures in the PS3/360 gen. Most of you should remember the effect of how Nintendo 3DS ended up with Five Double-Million Sellers for the Japanese Market in 6 months, the market is different now. There is less competition for AAA games because they will easily outdo all the B-tier games due to having more exposure from advertising.
The smaller publishers don't have $20 to $200 million to spend on advertising to get the most exposure for their games to the masses.
With less competition means that the bigger titles get even more sales as pointed out in the example above.
That same point can be said about Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, what else released physically during that week? Puyo Puyo Tetris. Tetris has brand power but I don't think Sega planned to spend multi-million​s on advertising to get the game sold. Of course some will say that is not a AAA title, but what other AAA titles would have released during that period? As I said, western 3rd parties release the majority of their AAA games at the end of the year to sell during the holidays and don't expect a port of a AAA game from last year to light up the charts for releasing in the same week as Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.
If Mario Kart 8 Deluxe did shit sales, no one would say Switch owners are starving. If the Wonderful​ 101 released instead of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, no one would say it would have done well in sales because Switch owners are starving since we know it released on the Wii U after a very long software drought but still did shit in sales.
Then there's the fact that AAA releases are few and far between now. Western 3rd parties release the majority of their AAA titles at the end of the calendar year to take advantage of sales during holidays especially with how front loaded their titles are since they always release a sequel annually, CoD anyone?
If Switch had launched during the holidays, there was always the possibility they would have had a western 3rd party AAA title at launch, whether there's actually going to be any announced for this year at E3? I don't know. The point is there would've been more games during a holiday launch due to western third parties as opposed to launching in March.
Following from how there are much less AAA games now because of the risks involved and it how destroyed studios for failures in the PS3/360 gen. Most of you should remember the effect of how Nintendo 3DS ended up with Five Double-Million Sellers for the Japanese Market in 6 months, the market is different now. There is less competition for AAA games because they will easily outdo all the B-tier games due to having more exposure from advertising.
The smaller publishers don't have $20 to $200 million to spend on advertising to get the most exposure for their games to the masses.
With less competition means that the bigger titles get even more sales as pointed out in the example above.
That same point can be said about Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, what else released physically during that week? Puyo Puyo Tetris. Tetris has brand power but I don't think Sega planned to spend multi-million​s on advertising to get the game sold. Of course some will say that is not a AAA title, but what other AAA titles would have released during that period? As I said, western 3rd parties release the majority of their AAA games at the end of the year to sell during the holidays and don't expect a port of a AAA game from last year to light up the charts for releasing in the same week as Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.
Mass Appeal
Member
It's funny to me how much the Switch gets knocked for having no games.
In its first two months I have played arguably 2 of the best games in their respective series in Zelda and MK.
Thats pretty telling when in the first afew months of owning my ps4 and xb1, the best games I was playing were a third party BF4 and a indie ps4 exclusive in Resogun and xb1 exclusive on Dead Rising. I didn't even bother to play Ryse or Knack because well they just weren't very good.
In its first two months I have played arguably 2 of the best games in their respective series in Zelda and MK.
Thats pretty telling when in the first afew months of owning my ps4 and xb1, the best games I was playing were a third party BF4 and a indie ps4 exclusive in Resogun and xb1 exclusive on Dead Rising. I didn't even bother to play Ryse or Knack because well they just weren't very good.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
I think people are utilizing their rose tinted glasses when thinking about PS4. First year was not great.
Lionel Richie
Member
Seriously, Nintendo threads have become unbearable and at this point I'm not sure why I open them. I do not understand why there's such a discomfort at any good new regarding Nintendo, any fucking thing will be at least met with a "well, but the Vita did it better before!" nonsense bullshit. I get that Nintendo makes decisions that a lot of people dislike, but this insane cynicism towards anything regarding their consoles or games is completely ridiculous.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
Yup.
Infamous was cute for its time, everything else was butt or unremarkable. Knack notwithstanding of course, GOAT.
Seriously though, what games from the first two months of the X1/PS4 launch can compare?
MisterHero
Super Member
Hear me out, you also have to consider that once there was console and portable, and now there is only Switch.
So it's like MK8Deluxe has to perform in the place of MKWii AND MKDS
Well not that much but there isn't room for 2 games now. Maybe lots of DLC though...
Yeh but everyone knew every single third publisher was going to jump on board, even with the the ps3 and 599 they did. Thats not going to be the case with the switch.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
Lolno, third party on PS3 was sketch as hell till like 09 and the slim revision.
Pretty sure they still had a bigger library then switch though.
Buggy Loop
Member
Holy shit this thread turned the notch of insanity to 11.
Positive Nintendo news truely is some kind of DEET for some warriors.
Positive Nintendo news truely is some kind of DEET for some warriors.
Truth. PS4 and X1 basically had no releases from launch through March the following year. BF4, resogun and maybe Ryse/DR3. Then basically nothing until Second Son and Titanfall.
In comparison, Switch is killing it with solid exclusives.
NightwingRebirth
Member
You just don't get it. It's not about being meaningful or starving or whatever narrative you're trying to create here.
It's Mario Kart. People buy consoles for this game. People bought a Switch for this game. People bought Switches for all the games Nintendo showed off in January. We're talking a console with Zelda, Mario Kart, Splatoon, Mario, and Xenoblade. No one buys a console for only one game, if they wanted Zelda that much, they would've bought a Wii U, and the same applies to MK8D. Please stop trivializing a game's sales. That's just lame.
Of course, regardless of that, a success is a success and selling as well as this game did deserves praise, not being called "dumb." Save your drive by posts for something else.
titiklabingapat
Member
I recall that many on GAF predicted it would bomb. Funny how two months can change the narrative. 'Mario Kart selling well is not a surprise.' LOL.
Nintendo's success really bring out the crazy in people.
Nintendo's success really bring out the crazy in people.
Only if its about nintendo
Blaster Master is on 3DS!
CaviarMeths
Member
LOL @ people for real in this thread saying that fuckin' Mario Kart is selling so well because people who just bought a Switch 2 months ago are desperate for new games.
Even if we weren't talking about one of the most consistent system sellers of the last 30 years, the Switch doesn't exist in a bubble. If there's no games to buy for it, people will just, you know, play with something else.
Even if we weren't talking about one of the most consistent system sellers of the last 30 years, the Switch doesn't exist in a bubble. If there's no games to buy for it, people will just, you know, play with something else.
RobRSG
Member
Why so vulgar?
Im glad a few posters in this thread are mentioning this.
I dont even own a Switch yet but the double standards are amusing.
When PS4 first launched where were the good games?
I bought a PS4 on launch only to be extremely disappointed in Killzone: Tech Demo and Knack. Had it not been for Battlefield 4 (which had its share of online issues) and Assassins Creed Black Flag the launch would have been a complete disaster in terms of having anything to play.
It wasnt until Infamous and Bloodborne did things start to pick up.
The Switch launches and after only two months already has two very high profile games that received extremely good reviews. But yet people keep saying there is "absolutely nothing" to play.
People arent buying MK8D because they are "starved", its because it happens to be the definitive version of one of the best games in a huge franchise.
SporeCrawler
Member
i think the point here is that mario kart 8D is a re-release and launched on a small userbase yet managed to sell more day one than a game that is amongst the best selling games ever (mario kart wii)
I remember all the "BUT IT'S JUST A PORT WHO WANTS A PORT" and the "MARIO MAKER 3DS IS INFERIOR WHY DOES IT EXIST WHY" and "3DS IS DEAD NOW THAT SWITCH IS OUT" posts.
Fun times.
phantasmic_glaive
Member
..uhh, I was being sarcastic.
Since I've had the Switch I've, maybe, played it docked twice. It's very much a handheld to me.
Everybody doesn't feel like you do about the Switch.
"Hilarious", "pathetic", "whine and bitch"... "drivel"
Like, you would've sworn they were trying to hurt YOU or something. Don't worry about a couple of hecklers or people that dare challenge a claim from the internet.
It's Mario Kart it'll probably sell another 8 million just like the wiiu version.
What's really sad is anytime, anyone says anything in the slightest non positive way related to anything Nintendo, this community loses its fucking mind.
I skim these threads a lot (I like reading them more than actually posting) and almost always it's a Switch fan(?) with some passive-aggressive post, spurring negativity even further.
it would be great
But unfortunally nintendo has this sad habit of "wow nintendo should really make this obvious thing" and they simply never do
Even on Wii U MK8 was able to move 8.3 million units. It's a very popular series no matter what, whether there are tons of games like on the Wii or DS where it sold nearly 40 million, each, or on a new console. It's a series people love and will buy a console for.
Mr.Deadshot
Member
Both sides (Nintendo Fans and Haters) have become a bit unbearable to be honest. On the one side the haters that downplay Nintendo's success and claim that there are no games at all. On the other side the fans that celebrate Wii U ports as the second coming of christ and try to tell people that portable gaming is the only way to play games now.
@topic: no surprise here. Mario Kart always was a system seller and it fits really well on the switch with it's split-screen-modes and accessibility. Easiy to pick up and share with (non-gamer) friends.
Herb Alpert
Banned
Yep, that should be interesting. The fact of hating a goddamn brand is incredible. Are there people that have this kind of relation with ketchup makers, or fast food chains?
edit : and I agree with the post above. I play nintendo games and love them since my childhood (this is kind of my madeleine de proust) but some posters are really too much involved and embarrassing to read sometimes. Hey I remember some times ago a thread claiming that the WiiU was the best console of all time, I mean, huuuugh
You're projecting.
Pancakes R Us
Member
Hahahahaha.
I know there's a bit of a generalization arms race going on in this thread, but a simple "Switch fans are sensitive to criticism" would have sufficed here.
DecoReturns
Member
After reading this thread.
I think people forget just how popular Mario Kart is to a casual audience.
Anyways, yeah perfect time for Mario Kart to be out, it's gonna have legs, then it's gonna be a bundle for sure. Mario Kart always becomes a bundle game.
I think people forget just how popular Mario Kart is to a casual audience.
Anyways, yeah perfect time for Mario Kart to be out, it's gonna have legs, then it's gonna be a bundle for sure. Mario Kart always becomes a bundle game.
openrob
Member
Why would i downplay it??
It's about having a discussion about the factors that are contributing to it's success.
GiantBreadbug
Member
Gotta be frank, I see like almost none of this. I see obnoxious, hyperbolic Nintendo fans of course. But I really don't see this widespread attitude that some poster describe the community as having.
CJY
Banned
Lol