cryptosporidium
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any popular Youtubers come out in defense of this yet?
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JonTron (youtuber) speaks against demographic "invasion" of America by nonwhites
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Body shaming goes beyond the specific target of the attack. I'm not defending Jon.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Eh, him and Danny still say some pretty off color shit. It's more that they know the backlash and what's at stake that they keep their opinions private than "maturing" from what I've seen. They still cry pretty consistently about "backlash" before it even happens and SJW and people being too uppity.
Fragile ego + persecution complex + I'm one of the good ones
Of course. It's not the topic. We can move on.
I'm already looking forward to reaction videos from some prominent Youtubers, reactions to the reactions, JonTron's response, and then a compilation of all of these things in a summary of events video.
Basically, I don't think JonTron is escaping this controversy anytime soon.
Basically, I don't think JonTron is escaping this controversy anytime soon.
"Evidence from my ass" is the new go to political movement.
I'm gonna need some receipts on this because he's never come across to me as being the same as someone like Jon. Not 100% liberal, sure, but nowhere near alt-right.
It wasn't really a "both sides" thing (if you're talking about that Trump game video) but more just showing Hillary as the flip-flopping opportunist she was. It was literally just quick clips of her in interviews, they were her words. As a Bernie supporter, I definitely agreed with his stance there.
Obviously Hillary wasn't the best candidate, but she was leagues better than Trump, and I really hope Dunkey doesn't think Trump is anything more than a vile piece of shit
Bright-Light
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Can you provide a source for this?
Just before we start throwing different people under the bus without proof.
They say off color stuff from time to time but they've also been explicit in terms of accepting people as they are. Let's not go on witch hunts. Jon is our target here.
I don't know. I saw a Muslim guy flip off a seagull for nicking his chips the other day. Basically a riot.
i was so upset when i found that one outused to think he was so funny.
A lot of his videos as of late feature moments like that. His Arkham City had a bit of whataboutism going on, his review of Dex had him take shots at women in STEM fields, every time a game has a female protagonist he cracks about it.
And while he certainly makes fun of everyone, it just felt, I dunno, different. Like it was way more venomous. It's entirely possible I'm looking into things that aren't there, but that's how it comes off to me.
It just stands in contrast to that Black Ops episode he did where he lampooned the whole idea of white whining to the point of flat out saying that "people who were lucky enough to be born white are the most privileged motherfuckers on the face of the earth."
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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Yep this is a significant factor in the rise of the alt-right and gators.
Some people aren't big enough people to accept having their shit called out without going fucking crazy. They aren't really thinking too much about anything or showing much interest in the plights or causes of others, and sure enough they say or do something fucking dumb and get blindsided by someone not willing to put up with that shit. So instead of actually thinking about what just happened with some modicum of humility and interest in how other people feel, they lash out. From there it's a slippery slope into the mad reality of someone like JonTron right now.
Evil Monkey DTT
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Well there's a massive different between not being a Hillary supporter and being a Nazi. I need some receipts from this thread.
Seagulls are the real menace here. They're the wasps of the avian world.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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:lol there is no target and I called for no witch hunt. I'm saying the weird posts in here that keep elevating Arin and Co. to some celestial space when they also have said slurs, done racial impressions that are pretty gross, and said other off-color shit. Again, it's more been that they whine about "backlash" so they silence themselves rather than giving their view, that's not maturity and probably still hold pretty shitty views on stuff. They're just afraid of losing their career and hurting their friends. They're not shining beacons.
Also, just because you say something doesn't make it true. You can't be saying off color shit and then hand wave it away saying "but we love everyone!!!". That's some "my best friend is black" levels of bullshit.
Europe supposedly being taken over and ruined by those scary Muslims is the go-to argument for alt-righters with absolutely no factual evidence other than regurgitated horse shit from Fox News and Breitbart.
Just straight up hate speech disguised as statistics that don't exist.
They're referring to "media I disagree with."
It wasn't said on stream, he posted about it on Twitter.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Considering he did an interview for Breitbart.... are we actually shocked that's where he gets all his news?
KojiKnight
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This. It's like when Fox News says "the main stream media" when they are one of the three largest news organizations.
They're referring to the mainstream media like CNN/MSNBC/NBC/ABC/NYT etc (ignoring Fox usually, huh), aka the MSM aka big business owned by a few companies aka paid off by the CIA aka shills aka owned by the shadow government aka deep state propaganda, depending on how many layers of stupidity you want to go down.
Oh no. Gonna need some info on this as well. I've been watching Zero Punctuation since 2007. We're really gonna need some evidence of this.
There's definitely a very clear picture being painted each time something like this happens with JonTron.
Dude is alt-right through and through. It's out in the open.
Angry Fork
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Will be interesting to see h3h3's reaction to this considering they are/were good friends with jontron. I consider them good people but lately they've been on this false equivalent both sides shit and downplaying a lot of the anti-trump stuff. They're going to have to pick sides at some point so we'll see. Will be sad if they defend the white supremacist shit.
Nah, because this false narrative existed long before that and is something people actually believe.
ZoltanXerxes
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What a shame. I used to watch Jon's videos a lot back in the day. He was a very entertaining dude. It really sucks he had to get all caught up in this mess.
He didn't get caught up in it, he went out of his way to insert himself and defend insanely abhorrent ideals.
Muslim riots
French neighborhoods and busisness where women aren't allowed
Sharia law on the UK
Belgium basically a middle eastern dictartoship right now
I'll say, it is a pretty scary world if you believe all the scary lies.
You don't get "caught up" in this, it would be like looking outside and seeing a march with Nazi paraphernalia everywhere and then joining in and when you get stopped by the cops your defense is "I got caught up in it, I don't even associate with these people!".
DorkLord54
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The Molyneux comparison is apt, since he started off as just a typical run-of-the-mill ancap/egotistical wannabe cult leader before descending into his final form as a gibbering, xenophobic fascist-MRA-racist chimera with a tail made out of pure shit.
Death Penalty
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This doesn't feel sufficient to start putting the guy in the same category as JonTron if you ask me. It's not even sufficient to label him "alt-right". Is there something more going on here that I'm missing?
PhilipDoesMatter
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Hey you fucking You Tuber (this is the very expression that will label this current generation), have you seen the "13th Amendment" on Netflix. If not I urge you to do it. People like you are silently killing black and foreign men.
I still can see you attracting audience to your mediocre channel by saying shit.
I still can see you attracting audience to your mediocre channel by saying shit.
When he was doing his weekend streams (the lets drown out series), some of the topics got kind of....alt-rightish. Mostly centering around Gamergate, "SJW's", and gamer culture being young, white, and wealthy.
But it was nothing like this. Hell, he was often the voice of reason in said conversations.
Captain Fish
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Regardless of what stances Jon has had, the one thing I've pretty much always known is he's dumb as hell. He was always terrible at describing and defining his positions let alone defending them outside of just doing jokes. It's even worse now that his positions are about important concepts.
I honestly feel like he got really upset by some people coming at him on some of his politically incorrect jokes and in his search for fans to make him feel better he fell into some vile shit. And apparently he now believes it wholeheartedly. He very much fits the profile for someone who would fall for that nonsense, just based on how simple he sounds conveying his arguments. I feel bad that 3 million people, mostly kids I imagine, follow him and might also fall into the same traps.
Anyway, I'm glad to hear Destiny completely dunk* on him and talk circles around him as he fails to even muster an argument. Not only because it's awesome on its own, but Destiny was maybe the first streamer I ever watched back in the Starcraft 2 days, and it feels good knowing he's still an okay dude (perhaps even better now than before) who can think critically and convey a coherent thought.
*It's crazy that just hearing someone state positions and quote facts and statistics is now dunking, but I guess that's where we're at.
I honestly feel like he got really upset by some people coming at him on some of his politically incorrect jokes and in his search for fans to make him feel better he fell into some vile shit. And apparently he now believes it wholeheartedly. He very much fits the profile for someone who would fall for that nonsense, just based on how simple he sounds conveying his arguments. I feel bad that 3 million people, mostly kids I imagine, follow him and might also fall into the same traps.
Anyway, I'm glad to hear Destiny completely dunk* on him and talk circles around him as he fails to even muster an argument. Not only because it's awesome on its own, but Destiny was maybe the first streamer I ever watched back in the Starcraft 2 days, and it feels good knowing he's still an okay dude (perhaps even better now than before) who can think critically and convey a coherent thought.
*It's crazy that just hearing someone state positions and quote facts and statistics is now dunking, but I guess that's where we're at.
xaosslug
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Well like I said, it's possible that I'm looking far too deep into this, honestly I'd be happy if this was just me overreacting. It's just weird to me.
DorkLord54
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That's what I took away from it, especially after he began saying how rich African-Americans commit more crimes than poor whites.
TheRealTalker
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what makes people to believe lies?
what makes people to assume that everything is some other persons fault and that your superior and what not?
what makes one to just toss in and believe rumors and blank out reality?
what makes one to trust memes more then articles with links, evidence and proof?
what makes one into a douche?
I wonder time and time again when I see this but trying to understand them makes you drown in the cesspool that is their hate.
what makes people to assume that everything is some other persons fault and that your superior and what not?
what makes one to just toss in and believe rumors and blank out reality?
what makes one to trust memes more then articles with links, evidence and proof?
what makes one into a douche?
I wonder time and time again when I see this but trying to understand them makes you drown in the cesspool that is their hate.
I don't think anyone here is calling Dunkey a Nazi, to my knowledge he's never given any reason for people to do so. We are mostly all just praying it isnt another case of a "video game representative" being a completely shitbag, because lots of people really enjoy what he does
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