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Lifelong consoleplayer needs help with buying a PC.

MrAlwaysRight said:
It's a great time to get into PC Gaming, just for the small price of a reasonable car you can get a mid tier gaming pc that will perform roughly equivalent to a PS5, also, no discs to worry about, there's zero physical games on PC, just think all that space with no clutter of game boxes to worry about, enjoy.

I forgot to mention the fact, you won't pay to play online, but the good news is, within hours you will get harrassed by cheaters so much, you won't even want to play online anymore! it's a win win.
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And this helps OP how? or you just thought you'd be a useless troll?
 
Arsic said:
Get a 5080 and lots of ram choom.
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5080 is just very expensive. A 5070Ti is more reasonable price wise (and I have a 5080).

Realistically 9070XT is by far best bang for the €, but I don't know how well it works for VR (I am sure friendly neighborhood AI chatbot could help with this).

Really, a pre-built on sale might be the best bet but I am not sure how prices are in SE (or maybe can drive to Denmark or Germany if prices are better there).
 
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Bojji said:
I think 5070 with 16GB of system memory would be a better "now" system. You can always add another RAM stick later, but I wonder how long 12GB of VRAM will be relevant...
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12GB is the issue here yeah. it's already the minimum spec for some pathtraced games, if it had 16gb it would be the obvious choice. while the 5070ti is a big jump in price over the 5060ti (basically more than double)
 
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StereoVsn said:
Maybe he is in US for World Cup! 😉

Not sure about SE prices so hard to recommend anything. For VR generally Nvidia is better I think so maybe 5070Ti is viable?
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Yea Nvidia is typically the go-to for VR. They have much better driver support for that. Infamously the 7000 series from AMD had worse performance than the 6000 series for like almost a year. Mind boggling stuffs

Also bandwidth actually matters in VR. 5090, while I don't recommend actually chasing that, actually showcased generational leap compared to 4090 in VR. Unlike desktop 2D gaming where peoples were not seeing the gains from the monster bandwidth it has.

If you go high resolution HMD, it becomes a monster and has no competition even near it.

 
simpatico said:
I would say this is true for current games, but the small price you pay for the x3D suffix could buy you an addition half gen at the EOL of this machine. More so than any other component.
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Depending where you live, the x3d tax is expensive. For example, a 7600x is $199 CAD right now. A 7600x3d is $439 CAD. A 7800x3d is $549 CAD.

In no way are either of the x3d variants worth over 2x the price.
 
rodrigolfp said:
So should everyone wait for SW2, PS5 and XSX to return to their launch prices too?? 🤡
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SW2 is the most competitive hardware out there by a mile, and everyone already has a current gen machine. What you said makes no sense. This generation is fine and nobody should be in a hurry to upgrade if you didn't in 2025. He already has his Nintendos, as he said himself, so he's served until 2033.
 
OLED_Gamer said:
Depending where you live, the x3d tax is expensive. For example, a 7600x is $199 CAD right now. A 7600x3d is $439 CAD. A 7800x3d is $549 CAD.

In no way are either of the x3d variants worth over 2x the price.
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Yeah, that's a huge price jump. 7600x is a perfectly serviceable chip. While 7800x3D is awesome, it's not $349 more awesome.
 
Radical_3d said:
SW2 is the most competitive hardware out there by a mile, and everyone already has a current gen machine. What you said makes no sense. This generation is fine and nobody should be in a hurry to upgrade if you didn't in 2025. He already has his Nintendos, as he said himself, so he's served until 2033.
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Cool. Has nothing to do with the thread.
 
Congratulations on getting into PC gaming during the best time! 🎉🥳

Very affordable hobby compared to consoles and if a component breaks you'll have no issue getting a replacement straight away. Enjoy!
 
Branded said:
Congratulations on getting into PC gaming during the best time! 🎉🥳

Very affordable hobby compared to consoles and if a component breaks you'll have no issue getting a replacement straight away. Enjoy!
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It is. Good back to your poor 30fps low res gaming.
 
Lately prices on parts other than memory have fluctuated quite a bit. I purchased a CPU on sale and then the one I actually wanted went on sale. So I returned the first one. Motherboards, I had one in mind, ended up cancelling it and then a much better board went on sale. It's infuriating unless you know exactly what you want/get out of it. That was during Amazon Prime days. You've got to commit to a build and then see what the upgrade path looks like from there. You could wind up with the parts you thought would be a nice upgrade. Unless of course you want an AMD Threadripper then good luck.
 
If you are gaming on the TV with controller (great experience nowadays btw - I switched from desk to couch OLED years ago) then you will need a keyboard and mouse on occasion to click through menus, look something up, change a Windows setting, etc. I recommend a wireless option that has a trackpad built in. Something like a Logitech K400 would work. I have an Arteck model off Amazon for around $30 and it has been more than enough.
 
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Look Whos Talking Now Omg GIF
 
no offense but if this is about the sony lack of physical that dosnt happen till 2028. Considering the current costs of hardware if your wanting to jump to PC woudnt it make sense to wait for prices to drop? The 50 series cards already got some mileage on em. We cant be super super far from the 60 series
 
corgiix3 said:
no offense but if this is about the sony lack of physical that dosnt happen till 2028. Considering the current costs of hardware if your wanting to jump to PC woudnt it make sense to wait for prices to drop? The 50 series cards already got some mileage on em. We cant be super super far from the 60 series
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Price drops might not happen (anytime soon).

PS5 and Pro will get price increases (most likely), PS6 will be 1000$+...
 
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I've been seeing a lot of good deals on prebuilts lately, to the point where some of them are cheaper than building yourself.
My only real advice is getting a GPU with 16GB of VRAM.
 
I bought pre-build but it's a local online store so not available in your region probably. I have no complaints so far.
 
coffinbirth said:
I've been seeing a lot of good deals on prebuilts lately, to the point where some of them are cheaper than building yourself.
My only real advice is getting a GPU with 16GB of VRAM.
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The above is really tricky right now with laptops. There is a 5070 now with 12GB of VRAM but only in a very few machines and for 16GB you have to go for a 5080 mobile which in US is $2500 minimum.
 
StereoVsn said:
The above is really tricky right now with laptops. There is a 5070 now with 12GB of VRAM but only in a very few machines and for 16GB you have to go for a 5080 mobile which in US is $2500 minimum.
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Personally, I would NEVER recommend a laptop for that level of gaming unless it's a secondary/travel machine.
 
I would just go to a vendor and let them build one to my specs. They would stress test the rig before shipping. There is usually a workers fee baked into the overall cost but my pc have been pretty smooth sailing since I got it.
 
Buggy Loop said:
Well he's right for desktop 2D gaming but doubly so if OP is interested in VR. No competition there, Nvidia is better for VR.
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About VR I won't comment because is a niche segment and I don't use VR.
In general PC usage/gaming is on par with Nvidia, some things can be better some can be worse. Well, if you want to use SteamOS now AMD is way better (no Nvidia support currently).
I've been using Nvidia cards for the last decade and got an AMD card late last year. No complaints with the sofware or hardware so far, and to be honest I think it would be dumb to pay around the same or more for a 5060Ti 8GB than stick to a cheaper 9060XT 16GB. That was the pricing situation in my region.
 
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AltruisticFormality said:
About VR I won't comment because is a niche segment and I don't use VR.
In general PC usage/gaming is on par with Nvidia, some things can be better some can be worse. Well, if you want to use SteamOS now AMD is way better (no Nvidia support currently).
I've been using Nvidia cards for the last decade and got an AMD card late last year. No complaints with the sofware or hardware so far, and to be honest I think it would be dumb to pay around the same or more for a 5060Ti 8GB than stick to a cheaper 9060XT 16GB. That was the pricing situation in my region.
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I wouldn't go under 5070 Ti personally

I think also for overall technology advancements and specifically for path tracing that I think the price tag difference is worth it. AMD has a lot in development but its always like that, they're late to the party. Path tracing is like playing the next generation. I don't need 200+ fps for raster, I need the latest tech (PT) to be performant.

For VR it's heavily skewed towards Nvidia. The encoders for streaming. Or UEVR without DLSS 4.0 is almost unthinkable. Also historically better driver support. VR games with high resolution also benefit more from bandwidth which Nvidia typically has the advantage of. See the 5090 video I included before, unlike desktop 2D games, 5090 is a generational leap over even the strong 4090 just because of bandwidth.

You're right for Linux/SteamOS. I wish / hope Nvidia will catch up, there's rumours they're cooking something but when they do, I might switch to Linux. I have no idea what OP intends here though, OS wise.

And of course, it always depends on region. For me the 5070 Ti was like a tad pricier than the 9700 XT so it was worth it in Canada at launch. If the prices in Sweden where OP lives makes nvidia that much more expensive then it's not worth it. Even for VR. I mean there's peoples playing VR with 9700 XT fine too. It's just a factor among many other choices to consider.
 
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Just remember, you're going to run into issues and errors that are inherent to PC gaming at a level you haven't never experienced as a console gamer. The good news is that if you Google the error, someone has already encountered it and you can do what they did to fix the problem. Good luck!
 
Osthyvel said:
I dont know if this is ok, i hope so, and bare with me as english aint my native language.

Well then, i bought my first console 40 years ago, i always loved playing on console and still do, never had any interest in PC until now.

I am giving up consoles in the future except Nintendos.

So i am trying to read and learn as much as i can, i dont know that much about all the components etc and it feels like a jungle, and my first question is; i dont need it right now, maybe in 2-3 year, is it smart to wait or is it better to buy one asap? Some say prices will go down but I dont know about that...

I know that memory etc cost a lot now because of ai.

I am sure there is a lot of talented people here that can give me some tips on what to buy.

I am really deep in VR since +10 years that is one thing, it has to be really good for vrgaming, i have both psvr2 and Quest 3 so the plan is to use probably q3 with the PC.

Budget around 2000$

I am very happy if you want to guide me into this new path in my life : )
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Wait patiently till at least mid 2027, by then zen6 cpus and both nvidias 6000 family and amd's rdna5 gpus will be launched into the market, on top its highly probable we will have official specs/launch date/price of ps6, so with all that data infront of u(and gaf's helping hand) u will be able to build proper gaming mashine not worse from ps6 and in many aspects 4sure better.
Till then u can watch/ read on pc tech to get accustomed urself with it so u wont be going in blind.

Pro tip here- basically what u wanna do with ur pc gaming mashine, u want at least keep it on pair/bit above baseline currentgen console coz usually thats what most AAA games target to look decently.
As an example of current gen entry lvl mashine rtx 5050(290$) +r5 5500(81$) can offer right now, aka how games look and run on that combo:

U can see resolution, settings and direct gameplay footage with fps, so no bamboozling there.
 
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