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Lightning Returns Final Fantasy XIII launches in Japan with low sales of 277k
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HolyBaikal
Banned
That was honestly one of the worst things about Tales of Xillia for me.
The towns are absolutely beautiful. But the outside terrain definitely did become repetitive.
It's still a great game, but I hope their future titles don't make that mistake. Especially since they should have the funding from the success of Tales of Xillia and Tales of Xillia 2.
I also felt like the overused crawling holes. Particular as most of them didn't lead anywhere and were identical to others.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Is that a different wagon from the one I've been on since FF7 released? Been disappointed in this series longer than some people here have been alive.
SoraanTribal
Member
Pretty much expected low sales for this game. Hopefully it will give SE the message that we don't want trilogies for our main series FF games.
In any case, I still plan on picking this up in Feb next year.
Who are we kidding, they probably still made a profit on this game considering the low budget it likely had.
In any case, I still plan on picking this up in Feb next year.
In Japan, GTAV sold more in one week than its incredibly-expensive predecessor sold in its entire lifetime. It wasn't being purchased just by fans of the original eagerly anticipating a sequel.
The market is changing.
Very elaborated response buddy. Might want to improve that rhetoric maybe?
Nah I'll just back out.
What do those have to do with LR's low first week sales?
GTA is a worldwide famous franchise. It sells better in the west, but that doesn't make it any smaller everywhere else.
Hnnnnnngggghh. The world needs an HD re-release of this game.Fighting those bombs was awesome.
decoyplatypus
Member
Galaxy 2 did just as well as Galaxy 1 in Japan. In fact, its week-one sales were better!
If you're talking about 3D World, that is a whole different generation, and it's the only 3D Mario on its platform, so it makes a poor comparison with the FFXIII trilogy. You could just as well include the 3DS and note that 3D Land ultimately sold more than either of the previous two 3D Mario games.
With Mario you're talking about a one-game dive for 3D World that is almost entirely attributable to its platform's tiny user base. With FF you're talking about a three-game sequence of radically diminishing sales for games on the same platform.
Didn't they do this because they said it was a big departure from previous FF games? That's why I don't think even SE put much credit in LR, and also why I think the sales' decline isn't that bad. If this had been called FFXIII-3 it probably would have received a lot more attention, a bigger budget and better marketing. But it didn't and it didn't sell well because everyone knew it wouldn't, but they probably went ahead with it since it allowed them to re-use a lot of assets from XIII and XIII-2 and thus spend less on developing while still turning out a profit despite lowered sales.
DrROBschiz
Member
Very elaborated response buddy. Might want to improve that rhetoric maybe?
3 releases of an extremely popular brand in Japan selling all together better than a western game (when bigger successes than ANY FF title worldwide have barely sold 1 mil in Japan overall) is not something worth mentioning.
As far as Final Fantasy games go, LR is a failure no matter how you spin it.
DigitalDevilSummoner
zero cognitive reasoning abilities
I'd say those are the most critical when you go and buy a game on its first week.
actually Square's rationalization for the name and marketing was completely different (but equally wrong)
Please, I am not crying, only forced to resolve that the title was in expectations and did not exceed them like I hoped. I would love to hear SE's take on it before calling it anything though.
Though there was one thing: If Xilia 3 was released, do you not think it would have the same decline 2 did from 1? Honest question.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
But he has Kitase support.
PaulExcellent
Member
Holy crap.
flatearthpandas
Member
Shocking news?
Maybe only to those who argued it wasn't a big deal that XIII-2 lost 2/3rds of the audience from XIII
Maybe only to those who argued it wasn't a big deal that XIII-2 lost 2/3rds of the audience from XIII
Which is bullshit smoke blowing. This is Final Fantasy XIII-3 as far as the story is concerned, yeah?
I imagine anyone that was interested in and liked the first two games will be buying LR because of the cliffhanger.
Not too much on Shartning
Itchy//Tasty
Member
Made me smile.
Good, they should force Toriyama to sells this shit in malls Gunpei Yokoi-style.
HOLY FUCK
HOLY FUCK
Too bad for you then, that they are already implying it will have sequels just like XIII.
DrROBschiz
Member
Yes please
Although I am not a big fan of them butchering their classic games in the Mobile space....
Well FF5 anyways. The FFTactics Visual upgrade for IOS looked nice. Is that even out yet?
HolyBaikal
Banned
I don't understand the meanness toward Toriyama and Lightning that comes out of these threads. Lighting could be a more interesting character, and she is certainly given more spotlight than many would enjoy for someone of her characterization. And Toriyama may be a poor influence in Square Enix more than a help. And I know it's mostly a joke but it seems like there's probably a bit too much earnest negativity toward Toriyama that goes around.
I think that people's dissatisfaction can be expressed better than this. There always seems to be so much malice in topics like this.
I think that people's dissatisfaction can be expressed better than this. There always seems to be so much malice in topics like this.
Should it not be? He was talking gameplay.
Came out months ago. It was on sale recently.
I think she's a cool looking character, so no hate from me, but if a character I hated was featured in the only FF games on a console in a generation, I might be a bit frustrated.
DrROBschiz
Member
I wish they would make that available on Vita or something
They ever fix the slowdown?
What was the reason? I'm trying to remember but I can't and am to lazy to search. I still think this isn't as much as a big deal as people are making it out to be, but I'm curious.
It is.
iOS version has no slowdown unless you play on old hardware.
This won't cause them to take a hard look at themselves, this will only push them more toward mobile development. The only thing that will make them look at themselves as a company is if FF15 sells VERY well.
People seem to believe FF13 trilogy took SE's time from developing other, better games.
When really it was FF14 that did that.
Sammy Samusu
Member
OMFG :lol
THE MOOGLE SUIT HAS FAILED
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DrROBschiz
Member
Ewww
Guess Ill play WOTL 1.3 mod then if I ever want to replay it
Can't believe a modder fixed that bug so fast and SE themselves releases the game several times with all of these other updates and yet cannot fix THAT.
Its VERY annoying
TheJollyCorner
Member
Bwahahah... she done.
Time to dump Toriyama, Kitase.
Get back on the horse and find that old FFVI/VII/VIII mojo again.
He may be talking gameplay, but that's missing the point: As far as fans are concerned, it's "Final Fantasy XIII-3" naming it something else because of the different gameplay elements is bullshit.
GrandHarrier
Member
Lightning is a shit character in a shit series and I am manifesting actual physical signs of pleasure at the news that she continues to ride the bomba into the ground.
Go away and never return, Lightning, you were never wanted.
Go away and never return, Lightning, you were never wanted.
flatearthpandas
Member
The hostage mindset that we need to buy shitty games in the hope of getting good ones angers me. If this is the best Square Enix can do then fuck 'em, they should go mobile.
It's both.
FF14 shouldn't have ever been an MMO. But Square did it because 11 is the only thing making them regular cash.
13 bombing should've sent alarm bells ringing at Square to get vs13 out and then get to work on KH3 and FF14/15 ASAP.
Like I said they did fix the slowdown!
I think you're taking this too seriously.
It's almost a shame really.. watching the stream yesterday, they showed they can make things right.
The towns actually have living and breathing NPC's, plenty of small (music) easter eggs even, and a gameplay that looks somewhat engaging.
I really don't know what went wrong with XIII. If someone els had written it, and if it had not been a permanent corridor, then maybe this game might have sold more.
The towns actually have living and breathing NPC's, plenty of small (music) easter eggs even, and a gameplay that looks somewhat engaging.
I really don't know what went wrong with XIII. If someone els had written it, and if it had not been a permanent corridor, then maybe this game might have sold more.
Jimmyfenix
Member
I am more surprised it beat Super Mario 3D world.
super-famicom
Member
Hold up, let's not let our dislikes overwrite facts here.
13 sold very well. It didn't fare well critically but it sold comparably to other mainline titles.