ThatOneMexican
Member
Does it really matter if it's going to be the same gameplay?
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Lily Bergamo was turned into Let It Die
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jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Well you've got good tastes in anime, I'll give you that much.
bobbychalkers
Member
Totally different situation.C'mon Nintendo, you've already done the same for two other games.
Save it!
radios shipping overview
Member
Well, with the experience Grasshopper will be getting with F2P, they'll be ready to be transitioned to 100% Puzzle & Dragons dev work by 2016.
I really don't think people come to Suda games for the gameplay.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Yeah, that announcement was the opposite of my 1st impression at E3. I thought "Oh, one more exclusive! Great!" now what I have in mind is "Shit, no more Lily Bergamo, and no interest on Let it Die! One game less... or maybe two!"
Woo-Fu
Banned
Can't really bet on the wrong horse when you kill one of the only two in the race.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I would have prefered Lily to be honest. I really wanted next gen anime cel shading.
Orniletter
Banned
...I´d agree with you If we were talking about...say...a Nintendo game.
But Suda´s titles have mediocre, in some cases even downright awful gameplay and you enjoy them for...like everything else (visuals, story etc.)
I'm with you. What if all they did was change it from a female protagonist to a 'build your own character' but the gameplay, which they didn't show of Lily, is the same. Maybe Lily really looked like this the whole time or maybe the colors and the gameplay didn't work together.
Trust these folks to make the game they want to make and one they enjoy playing and it should be good at a minimum. Rather this than getting a game with great art style that isn't good. Also, word is it's FTP which means if we played as Lily, then customization would have been limited. What could they sell us if character customization is limited? Less than if they allow players to create their own avatar.
Let them finish the game.
chrominance
Member
A bunch of comments follow this line of thinking and honestly, you're probably right to some extent. We didn't really know how Lily Bergamo would play, though it turns out Suda and GungHo did talk about the game in more detail. I guess it's just that the initial trailer set a tone that was at least unique and stylish, whereas the initial trailer for Let It Die seems tailored specifically to alienate everyone who thought Lily Bergamo looked neat. In the end, Suda51/GungHo may not have changed very much about the gameplay (though now we'll never know), but even the few things we know we lost like a set protagonist and the art style/sensibility are sorely missed.
I feel like I can point you to dozens of games that let you GRR RAR STOMP ON HEAD GET XP METALLLLLLLLLLL ANGRY. I can't think of a lot of games that Lily Bergamo resembled, even if it was just a trailer. We could've been disappointed down the road when Lily Bergamo got fleshed out, but we KNOW we're disappointed now that it's turned into Let It Die.
makingmusic476
Member
Yup, I'm still as disappointed by this as I was last night.
Neuromancer
Member
I'm not even sure how the game plays. Is it a fighting game or a 3rd person action game?
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Deleted member 80556
Unconfirmed Member
Crap, now I hate Let it Die more.
Bring Lily back, Suda! You bastards!
Bring Lily back, Suda! You bastards!
Bummer.
As much as I like Suda titles, I've learned to expect his games to have interesting/fun characters and/or stories but somewhat clunky mechanics.
With that in mind, I was looking forward to Lily Bergamo, as it seemed to fit the bill and (hopefully) have an at least an acceptable combat system. I was expecting another Remember Me.
Now, they killed the concept and visual style and turned it into an arena 3rd person shooter with generic zombie avatars? I'm outta here.
As much as I like Suda titles, I've learned to expect his games to have interesting/fun characters and/or stories but somewhat clunky mechanics.
With that in mind, I was looking forward to Lily Bergamo, as it seemed to fit the bill and (hopefully) have an at least an acceptable combat system. I was expecting another Remember Me.
Now, they killed the concept and visual style and turned it into an arena 3rd person shooter with generic zombie avatars? I'm outta here.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
For what exactly? The ship has completely sailed. That game didn't even show any gameplay, we have a gameplay trailer for this. You can't expect them to cancel this game and unless your planning to fund Lily you can't expect them to restart that game as well.
Starting a campaign would be more than a little ridiculous.
Krusenstern
Banned
No!
I already liked what I saw from that small trailer.
;_;
I already liked what I saw from that small trailer.
;_;
ShinobiMuramasa
Member
Very disappointed by this, I was really looking forward to Lily news. From what they showed of Let It Die I'm not interested at all.
For what? To change the art back to anime again and the name back to Lily Bergamo?
Elor_Nocudee
Member
Ah that would explain why i never heard about it then, dont like F2P anything (damn you Real Racing 3).
zeopower6
Member
Well, if the concept for this game was essentially the same as what Lily Bergamo was going to end up like... the suspicions that Lily was going to be F2P were correct. No idea if it was mentioned officially anywhere.
I wonder if they had any gameplay for Lily at all or if the switch to Let It Die happened before that was even made.
GayForMaster
Banned
Great, so it's F2P and its literally a moba, and there's no more lily bergamo.
Thank
you
Gungo
you
pieces
of
fucking
shit.
This is what happens when a FUCKING mobile company buys you out.
Sony is fortunate they have Bloodbourne, otherwise I wouldn't give 2 shits about buying PS4.
How is it possible to pass from what seemed to be a cel shaded single player action game with a female protagonist to a dark f2p shooter with custom characters?
Sorry but it's really hard for me to believe that this is Lily Bergamo, imo they just canned it and said that Let It Die is its new form.
Sorry but it's really hard for me to believe that this is Lily Bergamo, imo they just canned it and said that Let It Die is its new form.
King Gilga
Member
Suda is dead to me.
SemiHollowCarrot
Banned
This dang thread.
There wasn't enough information on Lily Bergamo for anyone to draw any conclusions from. All we saw was Generic Animu Trailer and a chick in cosplay.
Keep it in your pants, thread. Jeez.
There wasn't enough information on Lily Bergamo for anyone to draw any conclusions from. All we saw was Generic Animu Trailer and a chick in cosplay.
Keep it in your pants, thread. Jeez.
Stone Ocean
Member
The charm in Suda's games come mostly from the characterization. It's not because it was "generic animu", it's because we went from named character to generic avatar.
So excuse me if I'm not as excited for it as I was.
Paracelsus
Member
This is not NieR Gestalt/Replicant, this is like one guy anticipating the new cc2 Naruto game and it turns out to be Gears of War.
Elor_Nocudee
Member
Oh ok, thanks for the clarification.
The art for LB looked nice, but the change to Let it Die is very strange one. Anime style to dirty basement serial killer? I'd like it if Suda 51 would do an interview about all this.
Backfoggen
Banned
I'd bet Suda wanted to do Lily Bergamo and Gung Ho went "fuck that. F2P"
Let's hope this game is insane.
Let's hope this game is insane.
I doubt he'd talk. It's likely business decisions and they never go into that.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
You do know Tales are going to come to PS4 eventually right?
GayForMaster
Banned
Just read about that after reading your post. I was really only talking about what games were shown at E3 that would influence my PS4 purchase sooner than later. There wasn't really anything I cared about except for Bloodbourne and Let it Die (which made me think there were 2 suda exclusives).
