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LTTP: Uncharted: The Lost Legacy is some of the best of Naughty Dog
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RJMacready73
Simps for Amouranth
Don't knock UC4, like I said I recently completed it again and it had some equally spectacular levels AND a lot more diversity of locales, the whole sunken ruined pirate city was incredible to explore and play through and that set piece with jeep down through the city.. fucking hell, insanely good..
semiconscious
Gold Member
i agree that lost legacy's an improvement over uncharted 4. but it's nowhere as good as either the original trilogy, or the last of us. i thought the chloe/nadine 'frenemy' thing was a bit too try hard, & the surprise 'guest appearance' of the all-time worst uncharted character of'm all, sam? ugh...
TropicanaTwista
Member
Great game. I liked uncharted 4 alot, but by the time I was done with it, I felt the franchise itself was just getting a little stale. I remember not being all that hyped for LL, and it was fucking awesome. Loved how they incorporated the semi open world type of map and made it shorter. Changed up the series just enough to make it feel more fresh, but then also didn't overstay it's welcome.
If I had to rank all the games, I would probably go:
2 > 4 = LL > 3 > 1
If I had to rank all the games, I would probably go:
2 > 4 = LL > 3 > 1
consoul
Member
They didn't "remove" and "replace" white men in Lost Legacy. It's a side story that was never intended to star Nate & Sully.
Not every game that doesn't have a white male protag is some woke conspiracy. If they were so deadset on being woke, they wouldn't have hired Laura Bailey.
Dr.Morris79
Member
That's bollocks and you know it.
Stop this.
The 1st is the best.
Stop this.
The 1st is the best.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Lost legacy, 2, and 4 all compete for the best uncharted game.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
I reinstalled for proof
Look at this hunchbacked vegetable armed thing
As soon as I saw this character model, (not even five minutes in, upon its initial release back in 2017) I dropped it immediately.
Chloe and Nadine were never strong enough to hold their own in some adventure to me anyway. It reeked of diversity checkboxes then and it still does now.
Didnt one of the devs say later on the choice to switch from Sam & Sully was a direct shot to male fans?
Look at this hunchbacked vegetable armed thing
As soon as I saw this character model, (not even five minutes in, upon its initial release back in 2017) I dropped it immediately.
Chloe and Nadine were never strong enough to hold their own in some adventure to me anyway. It reeked of diversity checkboxes then and it still does now.
Didnt one of the devs say later on the choice to switch from Sam & Sully was a direct shot to male fans?
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semiconscious
Gold Member
'y'know, honey, your mom & i, we've ended up doing pretty well, all things considered. but it wasn't always easy. as several thousand dead men would arrest to. if they only could...'
consoul
Member
No.
Probably because there wasn't a switch from Sam & Sully.
If you've got a quote from Naughty Dog saying this was a Sam & Sully game and they switched it to women as a direct shot to male fans, let's fucking see it.
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elbourreau
Member
ND was at the top when they released LL.
Fahdis
Member
I reinstalled for proof
Look at this hunchbacked vegetable armed thing
As soon as I saw this character model, (not even five minutes in, upon its initial release back in 2017) I dropped it immediately.
Chloe and Nadine were never strong enough to hold their own in some adventure to me anyway. It reeked of diversity checkboxes then and it still does now.
Didnt one of the devs say later on the choice to switch from Sam & Sully was a direct shot to male fans?
Lmao, I have never seen someone as insecure as you
The Cockatrice
Banned
I reinstalled for proof
Look at this hunchbacked vegetable armed thing
As soon as I saw this character model, (not even five minutes in, upon its initial release back in 2017) I dropped it immediately.
Chloe and Nadine were never strong enough to hold their own in some adventure to me anyway. It reeked of diversity checkboxes then and it still does now.
Didnt one of the devs say later on the choice to switch from Sam & Sully was a direct shot to male fans?
Thats just a weird idle animation you silly goose. Unless you're very gay, I see 0 reasons why you'd avoid missing out on this
Woopah
Member
How would you make a none wokeness game staring the same characters?
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Just wait til SBI has their way with her the next time we see her.It's ok to be gay, man
Ugly non-white women? First of all Indian women are hot AF, second she's half and half anyway
Madserb2023
Member
In regards to pacing it's arguably their best game next to Uncharted 2. Exploration was their but you could go quickly from A to B with very little forced walking sections if you want to. Played all their games recently from Uncharted 1 to Last of Us 2, and it was like fresh of breath air compared to Uncharted 4's uneven pacing and indulgent slow sequences. Sadly they seemed to back to it with Last of Us 2, which took filler to a whole new level. I would like their next game to have the complexity and ambition of the Last of Us 2 with the pacing of Lost Legacy. I know most people wouldn't be happy with a game with the length of Lost Legacy but even though I think it's fine, they could make their next game 2 to 3 hours longer but no more. These cinematic games do not lend themselves to being 16 hours+.
Majormaxxx
Member
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Thats just a weird idle animation you silly goose. Unless you're very gay, I see 0 reasons why you'd avoid missing out on this
Yes I’m very gay. You figured it out Cockasucker.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Hence the question mark. I was asking, not stating.
The Cockatrice
Banned
Sucking dick aint gay as long as they or I say nohomo.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Regardless, that idle pose looks terrible and retarded. And especially for ND standards.
Y’all folx Enjoy your Hunchback of Lost Gold game. Especially you, my #1 fan
Fahdis
The Cockatrice
Banned
Regardless, that idle pose looks terrible and retarded. And especially for ND standards.
Y’all folx Enjoy your Hunchback of Lost Gold game. Especially you, my #1 fan
TheGodfather07
Member
I enjoyed it and it was nice to have chloe return, but I would have preferred if they focused on the original 3 characters. Doesn't feel like uncharted without drake, sully or elena. Don't like nadine and don't really care about Sam either.
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LordOfChaos
Member
Odd cope going on here. There's like one scene when she looks hunched because she's trying to keep a low profile and look small lol. That's not part of her model and proportions.
yurinka
Member
For the next Uncharted:
The daughter is investigating Atlantis (her playable during a 6th part of the game) and finds Sully, who is doing the same. He tells her stories of his begginings as treasure hunter and also his first adventures with Nate (Sully playable in flashbacks for a third of the game). They dissapear for a while, Nate and Elena think something went wrong goes to find and help them (Nate playable for a third of the game). At the end you have small portions playing as each one of them but mainly the daughter (a sixth part of the game).
As jokes the flashback gameplay includes Sully (and in smaller portion Nate) doing non-woke friendly stuff but Sully (as narrator voice) tells the story trying to use a modern woke-friendly language for a modern day teenager, also including some mistakes showing he didn't really adapt to the wokeness. Similar to what they did at the start of Kobra Kai.
The ethnicities of the npcs and most enemy characters would match the region of each location. In case of mercenaries, varied stuff. No "all bad guys/traitor characters are white males". No "hey I'm a LGTB character" forced scene (unless it's a joke about Sully talking about 'very friendly and welcoming Thai ladies' when talking about ladyboys). No "here's a long portion of some random NPC characters getting dialogs that adds nothing to the story and breaks the pace of the game just to have another check in the DEI woke censorship checklist".
No "I'm a stronger/smarter/faster/more talented/better/etc. than you" gotcha scene showing a woman is more capable than a man or a non-white more capable than a white. No weird pronouns or "inclusive" language. No "this character is removed / replaced / killed" as main character for being a white / heterosexual / male character to put a "more diverse" character on his place. Not uglified, not manlified female characters: let them be pretty, sexy, heterosexual (maybe with a husbando/male crush), have curves in their body, being emotional, unsecure, not the smartest / stronger / thoughest / etc one in town, let them liking to have a man helping/protecting them, etc.
Kat from Gravity Rush is a great female character. Chloe was cool in U2, but in Lost Legacy is instead Nate with a wig, and Nadine her black reskinned version.
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Duchess
Member
Would be great if that rumoured sci-fi game turns out to be real. I'd love to see them try their hand at a space opera.
Fahdis
Member
Regardless, that idle pose looks terrible and retarded. And especially for ND standards.
Y’all folx Enjoy your Hunchback of Lost Gold game. Especially you, my #1 fan
Hahaha I'll be your #1 Fan when you stop talking about 1 idle animation that has a hunchback
why are you so antagonistic with yourself bro?
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Hahaha I'll be your #1 Fan when you stop talking about 1 idle animation that has a hunchback
Because that’s how I get through life
MALpractice311
Member
Regarding 1 being on my personal bottom, as much as I liked the characters, the gameplay was so fucking bare bones that I can't imagine playing it ever again in my life. I'm glad it was only like 6 hours long, because it's limited gameplay had completely run its course by the end.
Regarding Sam, agree to disagree. I loved him. I felt like he fit perfectly in the Drake family. And as an older brother, I related to him and Nate's relationship more than any other relationship in the series, besides Nate and Elena. I could not imagine him as the villain.
Regarding the soundtrack, agree to disagree. UC4 is my favorite soundtrack of the series.
Regarding 4 having the best in free roam, gunplay, and climbing, I agree. Which is why it's the only UC game I've played through more than twice. Because it has the best gameplay.
Woopah
Member
Thank you for the details.
I disagree that Chloe and Nadine are ugly Nate copies. They are normal looking people with their own flaws and character arcs.
Plus Lost Legacy avoids a lot of the other things you talk about. Not all the villains are white men, there's no random npc dialoyge, the mentions of sexuality aren't noticeably different from how sexuality was handled in previous games, and we see Nadine being saved by a white man.
For a potential Uncharted 5, I think it's completely fine for Cassie to be the only playable character. You could still have Nate and Elena being the people she calls for advice.
yurinka
Member
Yep, I made a list of typical woke stuff. I didn't mean that Lost Legacy included all of them, many are from other games like TLOU2.
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
It's nice to feel welcome on this site, thanks. People need to not believe everything they see / read online especially that red pill youtube shite. I'm a big bender and guess what I laugh at gay jokes / words and I'm not obsessed with my sexuality or proliferating it or gay values to others. In short gay people are just like straight guys except we like dick and we're certainly not like those resetera types. Those are mentally ill... not like 99% of gay / bi / trans people in the real World.It's ok to be gay, man
Ugly non-white women? First of all Indian women are hot AF, second she's half and half anyway
U4 is my favorite in the series. Best shooting / climbing mechanics, good story / cut scenes, amazing visuals and crazy big set pieces.
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Woopah
Member
Makes sense!
I think gaming is now much better at including different type of people than it used to be, but it needs to be done in a non-token way. That's the trap to be avoided.