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Media Create Sales: June 28-July 4

16/10/08 [WII] Wii Music (Nintendo) - 50.000 (15%) / 98.865 / 402.539

08/07/10 [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 52.242 / 19,40%
08/07/10 [WII] Wii Party (Remote Set: Pink) (Nintendo) - 8.982 / 32,90%
08/07/10 [WII] Wii Party (Remote Set: White) (Nintendo) - 5.479 / 19,80%

Heh, funny resemblance, shipping 330k and ~325k respectively, with the game-only SKU on the ~50k. But something tells me that's as far as their resemblance will go.


A bit late about predictions but lots of releases, which ones should we pick? Bigger ones should be Fire Emblem, both Pawapuro and DQM Battle Road Victory. Then there's also Momotaro, Last Ranker, Beyblade, Odoru Daisousasen and Naruto Kizuna Drive. Also the usual problem of missing MC Top10. I'd probably go with the first 6 titles I mentioned and use Dengeki if needed.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Just noticed that sinobi has given numbers for the first 3 Fire Emblems we didn't have numbers. The list is now complete.

20/04/90 [NFC] Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light (Nintendo) - / 329.000
14/03/92 [NFC] Fire Emblem Gaiden (Nintendo) - / 325.000
21/01/94 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem (Nintendo) - / 776.000
14/05/96 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Holy War Story (Nintendo) - 228.578 / 429.763 (498.000 from sinobi)
28/08/99 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 (Nintendo) - 30.104 / 158.695
29/03/02 [GBA] Fire Emblem: The Sealed Sword (Nintendo) - 126.267 / 345.574
25/04/03 [GBA] Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword (Nintendo) - 109.429 / 265.286
07/10/04 [GBA] Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones (Nintendo) - 146.026 / 246.719
20/04/05 [GCN] Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (Nintendo) - 100.357 / 156.413
22/02/07 [WII] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn (Nintendo) - 73.337 / 171.924
07/08/08 [NDS] Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon (Nintendo) - 147.704 / 252.309
15/07/10 [NDS] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem - Hero of Light and Shadow (Nintendo) - ? / ?
 
Chris1964 said:
Just noticed that sinobi has given numbers for the first 3 Fire Emblems we didn't have numbers. The list is now complete.

20/04/90 [NFC] Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light (Nintendo) - / 329.000
14/03/92 [NFC] Fire Emblem Gaiden (Nintendo) - / 325.000
21/01/94 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem (Nintendo) - / 776.000
14/05/96 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Holy War Story (Nintendo) - 228.578 / 429.763 (498.000 from sinobi)
28/08/99 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 (Nintendo) - 30.104 / 158.695
29/03/02 [GBA] Fire Emblem: The Sealed Sword (Nintendo) - 126.267 / 345.574
25/04/03 [GBA] Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword (Nintendo) - 109.429 / 265.286
07/10/04 [GBA] Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones (Nintendo) - 146.026 / 246.719
20/04/05 [GCN] Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (Nintendo) - 100.357 / 156.413
22/02/07 [WII] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn (Nintendo) - 73.337 / 171.924
07/08/08 [NDS] Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon (Nintendo) - 147.704 / 252.309
15/07/10 [NDS] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem - Hero of Light and Shadow (Nintendo) - ? / ?
Nice find, thx! :)
 
Chris1964 said:
What I see selling more than 100k

Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010
Devil Kings 3
Another Century's Episode R
Class of Heroes 3 Eh.
Front Mission: Evolved Eh.
Vanquish Eh.
Metal Gear Solid: Rising
Castlevania: Lord of Shadow Eh.
Marvel Vs. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds
Naruto: Narutimate Storm 2 First only sold 80k
Dragon Ball: Raging Blast 2 The first only did 90k
Gran Turismo 5
Warriors: Legends of Troy
World Soccer Winning Eleven 11
Call of Duty: Black Ops

and maybe some MOVE titles

I don't see some of those going near 100k.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
thestopsign said:
Class of Heroes 3 Eh.
Front Mission: Evolved Eh. -> I'm 99% sure for this
Vanquish Eh. -> I'm 101% sure for this
Castlevania: Lord of Shadow Eh.
Naruto: Narutimate Storm 2 First only sold 80k
Dragon Ball: Raging Blast 2 The first only did 90k -> 103k at Media Create full year sales
I don't see any reason for Naruto: Narutimate Storm 2 and Dragon Ball: Raging Blast 2 not going up in sales.
 
Chris1964 said:
I don't see any reason for Naruto: Narutimate Storm 2 and Dragon Ball: Raging Blast 2 not going up in sales.

Naruto, maybe. It came out before PS3's slim bump last year. Raging Blast came out in the middle of it, in November last year, and still bombed compared to the other Dragon Ball game on the system Burst Limit. I doubt a sequel will improve on that.
 

Oxx

Member
Chris1964 said:
Just noticed that sinobi has given numbers for the first 3 Fire Emblems we didn't have numbers. The list is now complete.

20/04/90 [NFC] Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light (Nintendo) - / 329.000
14/03/92 [NFC] Fire Emblem Gaiden (Nintendo) - / 325.000
21/01/94 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem (Nintendo) - / 776.000
14/05/96 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Holy War Story (Nintendo) - 228.578 / 429.763 (498.000 from sinobi)
28/08/99 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 (Nintendo) - 30.104 / 158.695
29/03/02 [GBA] Fire Emblem: The Sealed Sword (Nintendo) - 126.267 / 345.574
25/04/03 [GBA] Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword (Nintendo) - 109.429 / 265.286
07/10/04 [GBA] Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones (Nintendo) - 146.026 / 246.719
20/04/05 [GCN] Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (Nintendo) - 100.357 / 156.413
22/02/07 [WII] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn (Nintendo) - 73.337 / 171.924
07/08/08 [NDS] Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon (Nintendo) - 147.704 / 252.309
15/07/10 [NDS] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem - Hero of Light and Shadow (Nintendo) - ? / ?

Did Nintendo name Thracia 776 after the sales of the best-selling game in the series?
 
Feel free to predict...

Prediction League 07/12-07/18

[NDS] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem (Nintendo) -
[PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) -
[PSP] Last Ranker (Capcom) -
[PSP] Momotaro Dentetsu Tag Match (Hudson) -
[WII] Dragon Quest: Monster Battle Road Victory (Square Enix) -
[PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) -
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Comgnet ranking 05/07/10-11/07/10

01. [PS3] White Knight Chronicles: Awakening of Light and Darkness (SCE) - 414pt
02. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 273pt
03. [NDS] Harvest Moon: Twin Villages (Marvelous Entertainment) - 214pt
04. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! Spark (Level 5) - 93pt
05. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! Bomber (Level 5) - 71pt
06. [NDS] Taiko Drum Master DS: Dororon! Battle With the Ghouls!! (Bandai Namco) - 63pt
07. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo) - 50pt
08. [NDS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2 (Square Enix) - 39pt
09. [NDS] Digimon Story: Lost Evolution (Bandai Namco) - 37pt
10. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010: Blue Samurai Challenge (Konami) - 36pt
11. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010: Blue Samurai Challenge (Konami) - 30pt
12. [WII] Wii Party (Remote Set: Pink) (Nintendo) - 29pt
13. [PSP] My Summer Vacation Portable 2: The Mysterious Sisters and the Secrets of the Sunken Ship (SCE) - 28pt
14. [WII] Wii Party (Remote Set: White) (Nintendo) - 27pt
15. [NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo) - 27pt
16. [NDS] Tokimeki Memorial: Girl's Side 3rd Story (Konami) - 25pt
17. [WII] Xenoblade (Nintendo) - 24pt
18. [PS3] Atelier Totori: Alchemist of Arland 2 (Gust) - 22pt
19. [NDS] Art Academy (Nintendo) - 22pt
20. [NDS] Love Plus + (Konami) - 20pt
 

Hypereides

Gold Member
Chris1964 said:
Comgnet ranking 05/07/10-11/07/10

01. [PS3] White Knight Chronicles: Awakening of Light and Darkness (SCE) - 414pt
02. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 273pt
03. [NDS] Harvest Moon: Twin Villages (Marvelous Entertainment) - 214pt
04. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! Spark (Level 5) - 93pt
05. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! Bomber (Level 5) - 71pt
06. [NDS] Taiko Drum Master DS: Dororon! Battle With the Ghouls!! (Bandai Namco) - 63pt
07. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo) - 50pt
08. [NDS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2 (Square Enix) - 39pt
09. [NDS] Digimon Story: Lost Evolution (Bandai Namco) - 37pt
10. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010: Blue Samurai Challenge (Konami) - 36pt
11. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010: Blue Samurai Challenge (Konami) - 30pt
12. [WII] Wii Party (Remote Set: Pink) (Nintendo) - 29pt
13. [PSP] My Summer Vacation Portable 2: The Mysterious Sisters and the Secrets of the Sunken Ship (SCE) - 28pt
14. [WII] Wii Party (Remote Set: White) (Nintendo) - 27pt
15. [NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo) - 27pt
16. [NDS] Tokimeki Memorial: Girl's Side 3rd Story (Konami) - 25pt
17. [WII] Xenoblade (Nintendo) - 24pt
18. [PS3] Atelier Totori: Alchemist of Arland 2 (Gust) - 22pt
19. [NDS] Art Academy (Nintendo) - 22pt
20. [NDS] Love Plus + (Konami) - 20pt

Is each point a 1k preorder?

Because if it is WKC2 might be performing beyond expectations.
 

cvxfreak

Member
Chris1964 said:
You are right. I mixed them.

The problem is that the original Sengoku Basara was drastically altered for the Western release so it little-resembled the original Japanese game. Basara 3 on the other hand is going to be intact, so calling it Devil Kings 3 doesn't make any sense. It would be like calling the original Japanese Pokemon games Pokemon Red and Blue, even though Red and Green is far more appropriate. :p
 

Mrbob

Member
highluxury said:
Is each point a 1k preorder?

Because if it is WKC2 might be performing beyond expectations.

Might have been a genius move bundling the first game with the second. I wonder if more companies will do that to stimulate sequel sales of average selling first editions.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
highluxury said:
Is each point a 1k preorder?

Because if it is WKC2 might be performing beyond expectations.


It's usually not wise to project such accuracy onto comgnet. I have seen certain titles seem to have a 1k=1 point ratio, but they usually seem to be Nintendo or other expanded audience type stuff.
 

donny2112

Member
highluxury said:
Is each point a 1k preorder?

Absolutely not. This is the sales from one retail chain in Japan. They have their own method of determining points, and it could not be what you suggest. Comgnet also does preorders, but those also are not directly extractable to total Japanese preorders/sales.

schuelma said:
I have seen certain titles seem to have a 1k=1 point ratio,

It would still never be 1 point = 1K sales at Comgnet, though.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
donny2112 said:
It would still never be 1 point = 1K sales at Comgnet, though.


Yeah, obviously not literally- I just meant that sometimes for some software the that's what the ratio roughly ends up being.
 

Road

Member
You should only compare COMGNET with themselves, even then, there still isn't a perfect correlation.

Chris1964 said:
Comgnet ranking 05/07/10-11/07/10

01. [PS3] White Knight Chronicles: Awakening of Light and Darkness (SCE) - 414pt
02. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 273pt

2008-12-29
[PS3] White Knight Chronicles - 606pt


All we can conclude is WKC2 probably sold less than the 1st iteration (which is no surprise given first day sales). Also, it may have sold more than Wii Party (casual titles are usually underrepresented on COMGNET).
 

donny2112

Member
schuelma said:
Yeah, obviously not literally-

For the regulars, yeah, but there seems to be a bit of misunderstanding of what exactly Comgnet rankings are. Just trying to stop any wrong ideas from being formed. :)

Edit:
Predictions

[NDS] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem (Nintendo) - 160K
[PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) - 100K
[PSP] Last Ranker (Capcom) - 20K
[PSP] Momotaro Dentetsu Tag Match (Hudson) - 40K
[WII] Dragon Quest: Monster Battle Road Victory (Square Enix) - 225K
[PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) - 90K
 

Orgen

Member
Predictions

[NDS] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem (Nintendo) - 178.000
[PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) - 61.000
[PSP] Last Ranker (Capcom) - 57.000
[PSP] Momotaro Dentetsu Tag Match (Hudson) - 42.000
[WII] Dragon Quest: Monster Battle Road Victory (Square Enix) - 124.000
[PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) - 86.000
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Predictions

[NDS] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem (Nintendo) - 123.456
[PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) - 54.321
[PSP] Last Ranker (Capcom) - 43.210
[PSP] Momotaro Dentetsu Tag Match (Hudson) - 23.456
[WII] Dragon Quest: Monster Battle Road Victory (Square Enix) - 234.567
[PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) - 98.765
 

duckroll

Member
Predictions

[NDS] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem (Nintendo) - 112k
[PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) - 61k
[PSP] Last Ranker (Capcom) - 51k
[PSP] Momotaro Dentetsu Tag Match (Hudson) - 32k
[WII] Dragon Quest: Monster Battle Road Victory (Square Enix) - 256k
[PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) - 98k
 
Predictions

[NDS] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem (Nintendo) - 130,000
[PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) - 60,000
[PSP] Last Ranker (Capcom) - 55,000
[PSP] Momotaro Dentetsu Tag Match (Hudson) - 25,000
[WII] Dragon Quest: Monster Battle Road Victory (Square Enix) - 210,000
[PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) - 105,000
 

Mrbob

Member
Road said:
You should only compare COMGNET with themselves, even then, there still isn't a perfect correlation.



2008-12-29
[PS3] White Knight Chronicles - 606pt


All we can conclude is WKC2 probably sold less than the 1st iteration (which is no surprise given first day sales). Also, it may have sold more than Wii Party (casual titles are usually underrepresented on COMGNET).

Heh, guess bundling the first game didn't help.
 

Road

Member
So many games I have no idea.

Predictions

[NDS] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem (Nintendo) - 122,222
[PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) - 55,555
[PSP] Last Ranker (Capcom) - 44,444
[PSP] Momotaro Dentetsu Tag Match (Hudson) - 22,222
[WII] Dragon Quest: Monster Battle Road Victory (Square Enix) - 244,444
[PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) - 88,888
 

Hypereides

Gold Member
donny2112 said:
Absolutely not. This is the sales from one retail chain in Japan. They have their own method of determining points, and it could not be what you suggest. Comgnet also does preorders, but those also are not directly extractable to total Japanese preorders/sales.

It would still never be 1 point = 1K sales at Comgnet, though.

At least I know that now. I didnt understand this point system which basically made me wonder. Its still kind of confusing. No one knows what 1pt measures?
 

donny2112

Member
Dragon Quest X re-confirmed for Wii.

From watching the Iwata Asks videos on the Nintendo Channel, it seems like the series really belongs on portables, though. Like going to consoles would be a step back. Usually DQ isn't multi-platform, but with Nintendo owning both platforms, I wouldn't rule out a dual Wii/3DS release. It's definitely still for Wii, though.
 

jj984jj

He's a pretty swell guy in my books anyway.
Predictions:
[NDS] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem (Nintendo) - 130k
[PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) - 47k
[PSP] Last Ranker (Capcom) - 50k
[PSP] Momotaro Dentetsu Tag Match (Hudson) - 27k
[WII] Dragon Quest: Monster Battle Road Victory (Square Enix) - 189k
[PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) - 96k
 

duckroll

Member
donny2112 said:
From watching the Iwata Asks videos on the Nintendo Channel, it seems like the series really belongs on portables, though. Like going to consoles would be a step back. Usually DQ isn't multi-platform, but with Nintendo owning both platforms, I wouldn't rule out a dual Wii/3DS release.

Stop talking nonsense.
 

dolemite

Member
donny2112 said:
Dragon Quest X re-confirmed for Wii.

From watching the Iwata Asks videos on the Nintendo Channel, it seems like the series really belongs on portables, though. Like going to consoles would be a step back. Usually DQ isn't multi-platform, but with Nintendo owning both platforms, I wouldn't rule out a dual Wii/3DS release. It's definitely still for Wii, though.
blasphemy
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Famitsu top 10: 05/07/10-11/07/10

01. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
02. [PS3] White Knight Chronicles: Awakening of Light and Darkness (SCE)
03. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! Spark / Bomber (Level 5)
04. [NDS] Harvest Moon: Twin Villages (Marvelous Entertainment)
05. [NDS] Taiko Drum Master DS: Dororon! Battle With the Ghouls!! (Bandai Namco)
06. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
07. [NDS] Pokemon Heart Gold / Soul Silver (Pokemon Co.)
08. [360] Crackdown 2 (Microsoft Game Studios)
09. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010: Blue Samurai Challenge (Konami)
10. [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
 
donny2112 said:
Dragon Quest X re-confirmed for Wii.

From watching the Iwata Asks videos on the Nintendo Channel, it seems like the series really belongs on portables, though. Like going to consoles would be a step back. Usually DQ isn't multi-platform, but with Nintendo owning both platforms, I wouldn't rule out a dual Wii/3DS release. It's definitely still for Wii, though.
Deserves a new thread. Isn't this the first news we've heard on this since the original announcement?
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
TheKingsCrown said:
Deserves a new thread. Isn't this the first news we've heard on this since the original announcement?
No.
thestopsign said:
Any bets on how far off those "first day" sales were? Either that or a major comeback victory for Wii Party.
Not off at all. Typical rise for a potential Nintendo evergreen title.
 
donny2112 said:
Dragon Quest X re-confirmed for Wii.

From watching the Iwata Asks videos on the Nintendo Channel, it seems like the series really belongs on portables, though. Like going to consoles would be a step back. Usually DQ isn't multi-platform, but with Nintendo owning both platforms, I wouldn't rule out a dual Wii/3DS release. It's definitely still for Wii, though.

Dragon Quest goes to the system with the biggest active userbase. That's how it always works.
 

donny2112

Member
Pureauthor said:
Dragon Quest goes to the system with the biggest active userbase. That's how it always works.

How far after launch did DS hit 10m? If DQX comes late enough, they could be about the same. :lol

Edit:
It'll likely be a Wii exclusive, but with how they lauded the "get together and play" nature of DQIX, it seems like they'd have to give that up some to stay on a console with DQX.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Pureauthor said:
Dragon Quest goes to the system with the biggest active userbase. That's how it always works.

Wouldnt be on Wii if thats what the case - but they will sell their +3 million on Wii. Big IPs which cater to core and casual audiences tend to sell well on Wii.
 

KingDizzi

Banned
Pureauthor said:
Dragon Quest goes to the system with the biggest active userbase. That's how it always works.

3DS will have a larger install base than the Wii by the time DQ X releases, I bet you absolutely nothing that will be the case.

Edit - Beaten :lol

cw_sasuke said:
Wouldnt be on Wii if thats what the case - but they will sell their +3 million on Wii. Big IPs which cater to core and casual audiences tend to sell well on Wii.

DQ X would sell millions on any console but the 360, even on that it would probably do a million.
I get immense joy pulling numbers out the arse
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
KingDizzi said:
3DS will have a larger install base than the Wii by the time DQX releases, I bet you absolutely nothing that will be the case.
Horii said DQX for Wii isnt "that far off" - so if its an holiday 2011 or early 2012 launch Wii would still be "way" ahead of the 3DS.

donny2112 said:
It'll likely be a Wii exclusive, but with how they lauded the "get together and play" nature of DQIX, it seems like they'd have to give that up some to stay on a console with DQX.
There is nothing wrong with a more singleplayer focused DQ main game like..... every title besides of DQ IX .
 
thestopsign said:
Any bets on how far off those "first day" sales were? Either that or a major comeback victory for Wii Party.
Two weeks ago leak was also fishy but it was right in the end, with some incredible discrepancies between trackers. Now this is Famitsu vs Famitsu but still must be both a case of WKC2 collapsing on the weekend and Wii Party booming up.
 
donny2112 said:
It'll likely be a Wii exclusive, but with how they lauded the "get together and play" nature of DQIX, it seems like they'd have to give that up some to stay on a console with DQX.

According to that release list, the DQ series will be on the 3DS in some form. Maybe they can refine some of the newly-introduced social elements of IX into whatever it is they end up bringing out on the DS. A FFXIII/FFXIII Agito type deal would be amazing.
 

king zell

Member
is't just me or this is not a good second week number for Inazuma? if the game didn't show great legs in the upcoming weeks it well have hard time selling it's initial shipment (920k).
 
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