Doctor_Thomas
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This still makes me sad.
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Metal Gear Solid V final box art (A Hideo Kojima Game/Kojima Productions removed)
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To what games are you referring? Metal Gear games are special. I'm not saying they're better or worse than other games or that Kojima is better or worse than other game makers; I'm just saying Metal Gear games are pretty much one man's vision. Or am I wrong?
If you don't care, why post?
brandonh83
Banned
Yep. They're actively trying to make me not buy this game. A company trying to make a consumer not invest in a product? Well, that's Konami for you!
On the debate of why his name is on other covers, just because other games don't necessarily do it doesn't mean they can't or that it's some ego trip. Are movie directors egotistical for "a Steven Spielberg film" for example being on their covers or posters? They made the movies as Kojima made the games.
A big part of it is marketing and brand recognition.
"Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six"
"Sid Meier's Civilization"
"American McGee's Alice"
Leaving Kojima's name and Studio off the covers and advertisements is a weird thing from a business side of things.
Would a company like Konami resort to pettiness, or is this perhaps a legal thing?
GreyOcelot
Member
To be fair, he puts his staff out there front and center in trailers. He also had the actor's names prominently featured. I think it would be great if more game designers did this. Why the hell not? The games should be associated with his name. Why can't games feature there talent like movies do
I agree with everything except for the last bolded part.
Kojima retweeted stuff like this so you can tell he is pretty damn heart broken about all of this
and who could blame him, he wanted to leave Metal Gear after MGS2 but he always came back and always did his very best to make sure each and every Metal Gear game adds some fresh new ideas and MGSV blows it out of the water, he totally went out with this, new graphic engine, open world, 60 fps, dynamic weather and day & night cycle, multiplayer infiltration where every single player has their own different base, enemies adept and react to your tactics so every replay of a mission feels completely different, buddy system, limitless options to finish your missions, tons of content etc. etc.
Just look how much Kojima Productions care about their fans.
I'm a lurker on twitter with zero posts yet Ken followed me back.
Reading tweets like this just breaks my heart.
For me Kojima Productions was the most amazing developer in this industry.
RIP
brandonh83
Banned
If it's a legal thing or there's some other sensible reason, that's fine. I'd just like to know.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
The Kojima Productions logo is just as bad, they're being disbanded, but it's still their game.
Luckily, even in the latest footage, they've thrown caution to the wind and got KJP logos into trailers and the game. Kojima's name will be heavily featured.
The box art may erase them, but it's still their game and still Kojima's legacy.
It may not seem like a big deal but this is Hideo Kojima's last Metal Gear game, it's the last game Kojima Productions will ever work on. They have gone out of their way to make the most amazing game possible and Kojima and the rest of the staff continue to work in rough conditions not because they have to, but because they want this game to be a true testament to the studio and a love letter to fans.
Kojima Productions dies on 1st September. Until then they are alive and they are working on " Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain - A Hideo Kojima Game - Developed by Kojima Productions".
Luckily, even in the latest footage, they've thrown caution to the wind and got KJP logos into trailers and the game. Kojima's name will be heavily featured.
The box art may erase them, but it's still their game and still Kojima's legacy.
It may not seem like a big deal but this is Hideo Kojima's last Metal Gear game, it's the last game Kojima Productions will ever work on. They have gone out of their way to make the most amazing game possible and Kojima and the rest of the staff continue to work in rough conditions not because they have to, but because they want this game to be a true testament to the studio and a love letter to fans.
Kojima Productions dies on 1st September. Until then they are alive and they are working on " Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain - A Hideo Kojima Game - Developed by Kojima Productions".
Sword Of Doom
Member
No matter what happened between Kojima and Konami, Kojima deserves better than this. Its fucked up
Doesn't matter why. It's just always been that way
Doesn't matter why. It's just always been that way
dukeoflegs
Member
I didn't request them, but those are fantastic. Thanks for sharing.Since Shy requested it in the OT, I made a custom Steam header for Windows tiles. PC users like myself aren't forgotten!
So are any artistic/photoshop types making custom insets restoring the proper credits for us to put in our copies? If anyone is tweeting pictures of their games it would be a nice show of support to print restored inserts and tweet those pictures letting Konami know they can't erase Kojima from Metal Gear.
Or have morals and stand up for something and not buy the game, but I know I ain't doing that so I hope someone makes alternate boxart for me to print
Or have morals and stand up for something and not buy the game, but I know I ain't doing that so I hope someone makes alternate boxart for me to print
lol at Konami's "I'm already a demon". Yes yes you are.
for those who don't know Robin is the actual voice actor of Kaz who says those lines in the game.
If you think about it you could easily compare those words to the fallout that happened between Kojima and Konami.
for those who don't know Robin is the actual voice actor of Kaz who says those lines in the game.
If you think about it you could easily compare those words to the fallout that happened between Kojima and Konami.
Sammy Samusu
Member
That is one ugly ass boxart.
It's hard to say whether Kojima deserved it or not without knowing what happened. It's sad for sure that it's come to this but without knowing almost impossible to take any form of sides objectively.
#AHideoKojimaGame is a thing again on twitter.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ahideokojimagame?src=hash&vertical=default&f=tweets
brandonh83
Banned
You're right, of course. It's just easy to be upset about it.
Heart of Black
Member
Only art that matters
RevolverRoden
Member
Hmmm. So you're mad that Konami screwed Kojima over but you're going to screw him over too by not buying his game. Because Kojima and KojiPro would love to see the game they worked on forever not sell well, as long as Konami doesn't get a dime.
Thanks for this post. For whatever reason some people think that not buying the game or buying it used won't hurt KojiPro. As if the sales don't matter at all to KojiPro money-wise and prestige-wise.
#AHideoKojimaGame is a thing again on twitter.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ahideokojimagame?src=hash&vertical=default&f=tweets
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I'd give Konami every cent I have if it means KojiPro getting what they deserve for their hard work and masterpiece.
Metal Gear Online is presumably a modern game and not that ramshackle shit from the previous games that forced you to authenticate on servers using a separate user ID.
Unless they used servers to host actual matches too(which i somehow doubt), in which case we're all doomed.
There is no way I can not get this game Day 1. Kojima and his team just have this way with the 'little things' that just make the MGS games such a joy to play and re-play. It's one of the reasons I have no faith in any further MGS sequels that aren't being overseen by Kojima or his team.
brandonh83
Banned
Bad cover aside I've always been weirded out by how lazy and just uninspired the logo is. The original logos were cool and the MGS4 logo was especially neat. This one is just the title and subtitle in a boring font placed together like the designer fucked up but didn't correct it. Even the GZ logo is great by comparison. The spine in the OP is particularly jarring, looking at it is like your eyeballs being in a blender with thumbtacks.
RevolverRoden
Member
Last I heard there are no plans. Sucks because GZ had amazing reversible art.
The best we have now is the fan made box art (tbh it doesn't get much better than the one Kindekuma made anyway)
brandonh83
Banned
I tweeted to @Konami asking for a reversible cover. Maybe should've included #BetterMGSVcover. Hell why not, Twitter campaigns are the new stuff.
Pankratous
Member
Ugh, if it wasn't for Metal Gear Online 3, I definitely wouldn't be buying this.
Kojima Productions is not an existing entity within Konami anymore.
An in-game audio tape of Kojima going IN.
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Mandatory (Update).
I fail to understand what you mean by this, even if it were true; the operations of the multiplayer service likely require some kind of backbone to function properly in the sense of a master server list for quick matches.
I suppose multiplayer could function and work with an "invite your friend" option that would require no such master server, but it's unlikely to me.
They should also cut out the Konami logo for good measure.
TacticalHotdog
Member
I doubt there will be many, if any Konami games to buy in the future. Except for mobile games and PES.
MGS6 F2P on mobile!
Nah they might try to still put Metal Gear on consoles for a bit, plus would give the Fox Engine some more use (did PES started using it?).
UrbanDandy
Member
Mandatory (Update).
Looks like those 2 are blacklisted from Konami. Who are those reporters?
Which means that they will be banned from covering PES preview events. It seems like that's all Konami makes now.
Serpens007
Member
So this is the "Director's Cutted Edition"?
I hope it has a back cover like Ground Zeroes. If not, will print the awesome GAF cover.
I hope it has a back cover like Ground Zeroes. If not, will print the awesome GAF cover.
FF Seraphim
Member
Fuck it, getting this game used, want to play the game but I don't want to support Konami....
You're seriously not going to buy a game that you were, I assume, looking forward to because a company fired/didn't renew an employee's contract? And because they removed a FORMER employee's name from promotional materials? Alright then. Your prerogative.
Watch out folks, we have a man with rock solid principles here. He's taking a stand by buying the game used! If you really had a statement to make, you wouldn't play the game at all. What is this wishy-washy, "I hate Konami but I want to play the game that Konami made so I'm buying it used. I am a man of principle!"
Get out.
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