DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
Withholding payments for months... sounds familiar...
Wow... MS going third world country on us...
Wow... MS going third world country on us...
The post in the OP mentions 64 and that they're 19 days over that. If that's incorrect then I apologize.
Regardless, I'm not making excuses for Microsoft. I'm just trying to piece together what happened. This problem only seems to have come to light at the end of October/early November with the issue being narrowed down and worked on in Early-Mid November which is why payments are delayed so much. It's still unacceptable but it lines up with what Charla said. Not seeing anything here that would make Microsoft look shady in their dealings.
The biggest takeaway from this is that the support for XBLIG is inadequate. Hopefully Microsoft has realized that now and does something to rectify the situation in the future.
developers still haven’t been paid meaning Microsoft is 64 days late on payment a full 19 days beyond the rather generous "Acceptable" delay period they gave themselves.
Please... Learn basic math before you comment on other peoples opinions.
Though I will give it to you, the grammar isn't perfect.
So that's 64 days since they were supposed to be paid.
And 19 days after their grace period
64 - 19 = 45
So if they have known since November, shouldn't... Like a memo gone out? What if that article was not written today?We've known about the issue and been working on a fix for a while - since sometime in November. This is not at all how we want to treat developers.
Well, my apologies then. I misread obviously.
Regardless, rest of what I said still holds up fine.
So if they have known since November, shouldn't... Like a memo gone out? What if that article was not written today?
A simple 'hey, flaw in the system, checks will be late' is better than being kept in the dark
Wish we could pay you but ssssooorrryyy.
Other than the fact you seem to think this is a one off, it's not it's happened before.
Not really relevant to either my posts honestly.
I was talking about what we know about this situation currently and what's happening right now.
I'm not an indie dev. I'm not involved in the XBLIG program. And I'm not going to make assumptions based on what's happened in the past based on offhand comments. If you want to, that's fine.
ID@Xbox parity clause wasn't fucking bad enough for indies Microsoft? Fucking pay them.
Taking advantage of the most vulnerable devs in the community.
Disgusting.
I'm not assuming anything, I'm merely pointing you towards the obvious facts of how they act when it comes to this system.
Exhibit one
Exhibit Two
Exhibit Three
Exhibit Four < This one is even a petition.
You can goto Exhibit 1 and 2, browse and forums and find quite a few threads on this issue mate.
Now I'm going to sleep, It's 2:30.
I'm not assuming anything, I'm merely pointing you towards the obvious facts of how they act when it comes to this system.
Exhibit one
Exhibit Two
Exhibit Three
Exhibit Four < This one is even a petition.
You can goto Exhibit 1 and 2, browse and forums and find quite a few threads on this issue mate.
Now I'm going to sleep, It's 2:30.
Yeah, they haven't paid us either.
This is becoming a real issue.
Makes us question ever returning to a Microsoft release again, I can tell you that.
We haven't gotten paid either. Unfortunately, this is nothing new for Microsoft - it feel like half the time they're late with XBLIG payments.
This is true, I have yet to get paid.
I mailed their services, and they assured me "it would be solved in the coming weeks", but I need that money now, not in months when they finally figured how to input my fucking account numbers in their system.
It's been a complete train-wreck ruled by crass incompetence. The contrast with Valve's handling of such matters is stark. The money should've been wired in fucking October, what a bloody joke.
Any updates on this? Has MS said anything?
I do try to update the OP, maybe I should have moved their responses to the top of that post which I will do now!
LOL technical issue that takes a further two weeks to solve.
Hey MS, here's how you solve that technical issue.
1. Call bank
2. Say I need to wire this amount to that account
3. Hang up
4. ???
5. Lose money!!!
Shoulda been drinking surge dude.Pretty sure you owe me a new keyboard. Gonna have to spend some time cleaning Dr Pepper out of this one now.
They had to wait for all of that Black Friday money to roll in.
Welcome to February. Where some devs still haven't been paid. Including us.
Here's the official forums for reference's sake.
We've been pretty patient, used the boards to communicate, tried emailing back and forth with them, but nothing of substance ever materializes and we're left with nothing but empty rhetoric.
I don't even know what to do at this point.
So this is since September correct?
Welcome to February. Where some devs still haven't been paid. Including us.
Here's the official forums for reference's sake.
We've been pretty patient, used the boards to communicate, tried emailing back and forth with them, but nothing of substance ever materializes and we're left with nothing but empty rhetoric.
I don't even know what to do at this point.
Welcome to February. Where some devs still haven't been paid. Including us.
Here's the official forums for reference's sake.
We've been pretty patient, used the boards to communicate, tried emailing back and forth with them, but nothing of substance ever materializes and we're left with nothing but empty rhetoric.
I don't even know what to do at this point.
Welcome to February. Where some devs still haven't been paid. Including us.
Here's the official forums for reference's sake.
We've been pretty patient, used the boards to communicate, tried emailing back and forth with them, but nothing of substance ever materializes and we're left with nothing but empty rhetoric.
I don't even know what to do at this point.
Welcome to February. Where some devs still haven't been paid. Including us.
Here's the official forums for reference's sake.
We've been pretty patient, used the boards to communicate, tried emailing back and forth with them, but nothing of substance ever materializes and we're left with nothing but empty rhetoric.
I don't even know what to do at this point.
Welcome to February. Where some devs still haven't been paid. Including us.
Here's the official forums for reference's sake.
We've been pretty patient, used the boards to communicate, tried emailing back and forth with them, but nothing of substance ever materializes and we're left with nothing but empty rhetoric.
I don't even know what to do at this point.
Sounds about rightWhat the fuck? So the PR shitstorm blew over and Microsoft just went straight back to not giving a shit?
What the fuck? So the PR shitstorm blew over and Microsoft just went straight back to not giving a shit?
God damn this is some BS...
I hope you are able to get your money and this isn't hindering you being able to make games.
Welcome to February. Where some devs still haven't been paid. Including us.
Here's the official forums for reference's sake.
We've been pretty patient, used the boards to communicate, tried emailing back and forth with them, but nothing of substance ever materializes and we're left with nothing but empty rhetoric.
I don't even know what to do at this point.