Eh not strictly true... You get access to Xbox live friends in their cross platform minecraft
It's definitely Xbox live
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Minecraft CEO confirms Xbox Live login on Switch, really wants Sony cross-play.
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Eh not strictly true... You get access to Xbox live friends in their cross platform minecraft
It's definitely Xbox live
Huge Succeeded
Banned
Do you have a Microsoft account tied to any of your email addresses?
If so, please log-in and let me know just how much promotional material you've received for Xbox.
I just checked my gmail account that I've been using with Xbox Live and PSN for years.
Searched Xbox. Got over fifty results.
All in reference to authentication.
Searched Playstation. Got over fifty results.
All in reference to authentication.
so where is this assumption about concern over trojan horsing into people's emails to send promotional material coming from?
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
You are right, but you focus on something impractical and a favour that MS like other companies would very likely not return to a direct competitor of theirs. Sure, you can hold it against Sony all you want and sure it would be great to have cross platform gaming even when you are the top dog and have the largest user base (it would have been good when Xbox 360 dominated earlier on).
PrivateWHudson
Member
They signed up to an MS service, why shouldn't they be able to reach out to their audience?
The Artisan
Member
This isn't a favor that Sony loses money on. They don't have to pay mS for this update, it comes free; Nintendo is in on it as well. Also, Sony doesn't have the largest user base of Minecraft.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Why would it be stupid to make the most of your acquisition budget?
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Corporations do not generally like helping their direct competitors financially or marketing wise. Sony has the largest user base period, Nintendo has still no online service, and MS is trying to actively boost their potential LIVE user base numbers.
The Artisan
Member
I still get emails from Ubisoft for signing up for that For Honor beta that I never even got to play
I don't care that mS is trying to boost their LIVE user base in fact according to Huge Succeeded that is a misconception as well. Also this helps not just mS but Sony as they would get the most up to date version of Minecraft which is clearly something their user base would want.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Exactly, they should be able to send them e-mails.
They should be able, but that's obviously an issue for Sony.
Huge Succeeded
Banned
And yet I've had this Microsoft account tied to my main email acct for years and I'm not exactly drowning in promotional material - quite the opposite actually
The Pet of the Month
Member
I disagree, this reality is quite comfortable. The consumer has convinced Microsoft to remove their DRM check from the Xbox One before launch, and this won't be the last time the consumer can change the mind of a company.
Must be strange, having Microsoft promotional emails being sent to iOS and Android users largely about devices and products that Sony does not compete with. Not to mention, Minecraft being a Microsoft IP and all, would want to reach out to their playerbase.
Not to mention, you can opt out of these emails during the sign up process.
The Artisan
Member
getting promo emails from mS isn't going to make me not want to play on my Ps4 though.
I wish I got the Xbox newsletter, lol. Never works.
NoctisVsStar
Member
That's you though.
Huge Succeeded
Banned
I just looked through all of my email accts, several have associated Microsoft accounts, two with associated Xbox Live gamertags, and yet... no promotional email whatsoever beyond Bing Rewards on my trash account
Well, that's enough empirical evidence if you ask me
It's all I need to dispute this hypothetical. The onus for producing evidence for that hypothetical is on you guys.
The fact that I've got no promo material at all from Microsoft after years of using MS accounts (and playing Minecraft for that manner) is a stronger point than the nebulous assertion that Microsoft will certainly bombard Minecraft players with promotional material without basis or precedent to point to.
This is what I'm reading:
"MS could easily just send everybody promotional material, clearly a trojan horse"
- but they don't do that, check your emails, I already checked mine
"lol nice evidence you got there"
like, where is yours? Where does the confidence in this hypothetical stem from? I at least bothered to provide an avenue by which you guys can self-verify the assumed pervasiveness of this 'promo material' yourselves, but it seems like you're not interested in doing that.
I mean, shit, you might actually be up to your knees in promo bullshit from MS, invalidating my argument, y'know? It ain't empirical evidence, but it's something to check.
Are Sony that insecure about what they offer that they don't want enable cross-play because of promotional emails no one reads?
The Artisan
Member
exactly...that's me, a consumer who bought a Ps4, telling you that I wouldn't have a problem with it.
Even if such emails existed...it does not detriment from my gaming experience.
Convinced? They realized that their brand would be ruined forever if they don't. That was the last minute gasp for breath decision, because they had no other choise.
Excuse me?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Thanks for your contribution to this discussion lol.
The Artisan
Member
Not necessarily. If my memory serves me correctly, the drm stuff was revealed at e3 2013, after that week when mS saw that preorders for the xbone were low, that's when they did xbox 180
Artificial boost?
The game is played on MS services. It's been that way since the acquisition.
Whether or not Sony allows crossplay, everyone who plays Minecraft on any system is boosting MS' statistics- because they are using MS services.
The only reason an 'MS account' is needed, is because they want a single social network to unify players and track purchases across platforms.
PrivateWHudson
Member
Yes.
They don't realize how weak this makes them look. "The only reason to buy a PS4 is because that's what your friends have and you can't leave the building to play with other friends."
TheSpecialOne
Banned
El Oh El my friend.
Because it's just a name. The Xbox live account has no real tangible difference from any other MS account other than it knows you play video games.
Sony isn't a 15 year old girl trying to become accepted into a cheerleader squad. There is a rational decision behind their rejection for cross-play.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Yeah. According to them, to protect kids! lol
The Pet of the Month
Member
Microsoft has been quite comfortable ruining the reputation of their products. Honestly wouldn't have been surprised if Xbox was left to rot sometime after.
During the signup process for a Microsoft account, you are given an option to receive promotional offers from Microsoft. These offers encompass pretty much every service Microsoft offers, from Office (Sony has no known Office competitor), Surface (VAIO was sold off last I checked), Bing (Unless Sony cofounded Ask Jeeves), and every other product they want to sell to you. Yes, Xbox is one of these products, too, hence me saying "largely" in my previous post.
Obviously these interest expand as you use your account for different services, but those are the main promotional offers Microsoft sends out weekly. Unless Sony is incredibly insecure about their offerings I see no issues here.
OttoSporteman
Member
It Will come to the branding and UI, but I kinda understand a little bit more of their stance if (and only if) Xbox logo and visual identity is launched upon having to access cross platform/multiplayer.
I'll wait for the first switch UI showing and how it is to rectify my opinion, if needed.
I'll wait for the first switch UI showing and how it is to rectify my opinion, if needed.
Huge Succeeded
Banned
No, we've already moved well beyond Sony's official explanation and have adopted convenient headcanon to replace it.
Don't you understand? It's all about [something Sony could have said themselves and didn't] because Sony wouldn't make a bad move
Bolivar687
Banned
It's so shady that Microsoft dropped its warchest on the biggest game after it was already out on every platform so they could now lead them all like lemmings into Xbox Live. You think Microsoft is proud about its MAUs now?
Don't give in, Sony!
Don't give in, Sony!
Yet he said you have to sign into Xbox Live on the switch. Apple, Android and PC aren't direct competition to Xbox, and Nintendo has terrible Networking experience(phone for voice). Sony not wanting Xbox Live on their console is a good reason not to allow it. We don't have to like the decision, but we do have to understand where its coming from. I wouldn't allow my direct competition to put their brand on my console. Sure, Minecraft is a MS product, but it doesn't say Xbox anywhere on the PS versions of Minecraft, it says Microsoft. The microsoft logo and the Xbox logo have different associations they bring. MS is software, while Xbox is a gaming platform, that competes directly with Playstation.
Definitely if you use Realms... Don't think they have cross platform sync.. Someone can correct
The Artisan
Member
there might be more details in the thread about the get together update.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
At the end of the day an XBL account is just a Microsoft Account.
You also log in to your Google account when you used YouTube on Nintendo platforms going back to the Wii, and that wasn't a big deal, was it?
You also log in to your Google account when you used YouTube on Nintendo platforms going back to the Wii, and that wasn't a big deal, was it?
The Greek Freak
Member
I was going to buy Minecraft on switch but I have no desire to be forced to login to multiple things just to play a fucking game.
If this is optional for people who care about cross platform great I'll buy, if you need it for Switch+ switch online? LOL no
If this is optional for people who care about cross platform great I'll buy, if you need it for Switch+ switch online? LOL no
Kssio_Aug
Member
It's not. But you know... Microsoft is evil and there's no way Sony would be wrong about this.
do you think google would be ok with you going to youtube and then having to sign into twitch to view someones livestream they post on youtube?
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Trying to wrap my head around this and figure out the analogy but I just can't.....
Tumle
Member
As far as I remember you had to log into a SOE account not an PSN account when playing dc universe online.. when SOE was still around
Only logical conclusion. This one corporation I like is trying to protect me from this other mean corporation I don't like so much.
Chronospherics
Member
I didn't say gunscape was too small. I said it's a game that no one is playing. No one owns it. I received a press copy a while back and there was no one online to play the game with, for the sake of the review. It's so utterly unpopular that it's irrelevant.
You can mock all you please, but it doesn't change the fact that it's Sony's decision and they are obviously financial and other circumstantial elements of the decision that they would attribute. You're surely not so naive as to believe that these platform holders want to create a cross-platform ecosystem for the sake of the consumer alone.
Maybe Sony will support cross platform play, but I don't imagine they'll rush into it just because Microsoft have. It's also not likely to simply be a floodgate that they simply want to open - cross platform play has different implications on a game by game basis.